Do you Scout tables before you Sit Down?
 

I play NL, and often times I'll scout the tables with the highest average pots looking for loose cannons before I decide to sit down and play. As hard as it is to sit down with them, because once you spot them it is often only a matter of minutes before they bust, it is definetly +EV to get a couple hands in with them if you can...and its nothin but a bonus if they decide to keep reloadin and try to win it back [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ...soooo, i guess the question is, do you guys, both NL and limit, scout tables before you sit?

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Anyone who doesn't scout tables is a moran.

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I dont scout.

Too much time wasted. I sit down at the table with the highest avg pot. If its not a good game i leave after as long as it takes to tell its not a good game. Its like scouting but getting time at the table at the same time.

Its all about hourly rate, not bb/100.

rJ

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Anyone who doesn't scout tables is a moran.

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I dont scout.

Too much time wasted. I sit down at the table with the highest avg pot. If its not a good game i leave after as long as it takes to tell its not a good game. Its like scouting but getting time at the table at the same time.

Its all about hourly rate, not bb/100.

rJ

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I play absolute, and there are no tables to choose from.

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Anyone who thinks anyone who doesn't scout tables is a moran is a moron.

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I should qualify my "yes." On any site but Party, I take a look around and try to find the best table possible. On Party, it's damn near impossible to catch the dancing tables in the lobby, so I usually just join the generic list and do a search for my favorite fish.

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I play absolute, and there are no tables to choose from.

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lol, so why do you play there?

i hate playing there. tightest frickin players ever, especially the NL tables.

as is the general consensus, i go for the largest avg pot sizes, and move around accordingly. often times the avg pot size will drop dramatically after whatever fish just busted, so i check the lobby real frequently to make sure im on the best possible tables.

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I kinda just sit down and scout after I sit. If it's truly a juicy table, the time it takes to scout will probably cost you a seat there.

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When I play poker it is usually from 2am-8am eastern time. If there are 4 tables even going on party 200NL i am happy.

When I do play during normal hours it is too tough to grab a table fast enough. I just sit and play 3 of them and then wait for a partilarily juicy table if a few of my "buddies" are playing.

out of curiosity how many bb/100 are you heavy scouters making?

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I agree 100% why "scout" a table table that could turn to crap by time you post the BB, just sit down and use that as your scouting. I'm constitnely switching tables no way I could "scout" each one I sit down at.

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I don't scout. I just sign up for the waiting list for a bunch of tables with big average pot sizes. When I get seats, I sit down and play a few orbits, and decide from there whether I want to stay. The thing is, it's not always about the table but your relative position at the table, and you can't "scout" for good seats.

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open up all PS .25/.50 tables - Sit at one with HIGHEST VPIP, I also DATAMINE for 1hr before i play so i get some hands on them [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

... And still lose.

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I just sit down and play.

I let PT scout for me.

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I usually pick tables w/ medium sized pots and sit down for a few rotations and get up if its a bad table.

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i start off by opening 4 random tables. let pa pick up the tables and see what table i have the most stats on or some big losers. pick the best two and have others running in the background so i'm free to move to them when i want.

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If it's truly a juicy table, the time it takes to scout will probably cost you a seat there.

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Now this would really make you a moran. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I do the same as you Reef.

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I usually open the 4 tables with the largest pots on Party. I'll let PT run for about 30 minutes while I check my email, post etc.. Then I'll open PV and see what tables look good and find a seat.

Durs

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I sit down at 4 empty tables and wait for someone to come and take a shot at me.

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I was looking to respond to a post in this thread. While your post was crude, it pretty well somes up my feelings on this matter. If your goal is to play poker and not work too hard and have a good time, maybe win a little every month, then just sit at some table and if it is too tight after a few rounds then move on. I say have a nice day.

If you are in it for the $$ and/or better your game then game/seat selection is a large part of the earn. I DM so much I don't wish to discuss it. I will not sit in a game unless there at least two players who are LAG or LC. I will rarely sit out of position either. I play four games and have at least four in the bullpen warming up. I scout the bullpen to replace games if they aren't good enough. You must drop games when they're no longer good. Every hand you play that is sub EV compared to a better spot is money lost. Even good players play in spots where, with the rake and other pros, they have -EV. At the end of the year the number of those hands can be a good percentage of total hands played. That's OK, since Party needs that rake.

Why other respected players/posters don't see this clearly makes me question their work ethic.

Less than two years ago I was playing $25 max buyin NLH.

I have read where PT and such are crutches which don't advance your natural game. bs I play several limits higher than I could otherwise. My play is much better over the last two years than all those before. I think PT and such let the serious user look into the "inner game" of poker.

MS Sunshine