worst beat ive ever seen
 

I am now set in my belief that holdem helps stupid players. Tonight I was playing and I had A-9 off suit. The flop hits A diamonds, 2 diamonds, 5 hearts. I bet 200, my opponent folds, another opponent folds but then a second later decides to put me all in to "get the game moving." He was a new player so I was confident I have him beat. I was in 2nd last chip position, or else I would have let him fold to take the blinds, but I needed chips and I KNEW I had him dominated because he has no idea how to play. I call, he has Queen 4, only one diamond. I laugh at him because he has no pair and no draw. The river shows a 3 of diamonds, giving him a closed straight and flush draw. I'm still about 75% to win so I'm not nervous. The river shows a 5 of clubs, giving him the A-5 straight. I was speechless and still am 3 hours later.

I'm thinking of hanging up my poker for good now, thats how damaging this was.

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cant believe you let the player back in after he folded.. and if you keep on putting in bad beats on this form you will get reemed by other players on this form..

-sinful

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<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
pokenum -h ac 9s - qh 4d -- ad 2d 5h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Ad 2d 5h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9s Ac 769 77.68 209 21.11 12 1.21 0.783
4d Qh 209 21.11 769 77.68 12 1.21 0.217 </pre><hr />

you did not give other suits, but I used the worse for you.
You got a guy all in in a situation where you are ~78% to win. Good job, and do NOT complain about a hand like that in future.
I guarantee you that many many other players here have seen much worse than that.

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lol complaining about a 25% bad beater! Seriosuly dude, talk when a guy hits his 4% outer or something like that. Toughen up

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Man I just busted out of a SNG when I held 22 and the flop came 24J. I went all in with $1400 got called by Q9 and watched him catch T8 for the straight busting me out. Thats much worse. Keep on Keepin on

(I realize this is home poker forum and this is about online play but whatever)

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I had black aces in a $10 SNG with 3 players left. I was teh short stack, raised 4xBB, leaving myself 10x to push on the flop. One caller.

Flop comes A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], I push, opponent calls and shows me K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I'm thinking he's a moron and I'm going to double up.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Me: Busted

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That's nothing. I only play twice a month live with a few friends, but I've seen 2 people go all-in on a 665 flop, one holding 55 and the other holding AJ, only to have the turn and river both be 6s, giving AJ the higher quads kicker. The next month, we had AK and AQ go all-in on the AKQ flop, only to have the AQ hit the J and 10 of his suit to get a Royal ....

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cant believe you let the player back in after he folded.

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That was my very first thought. Why would you let a player back in after he folded? THAT'S the mistake, not that he played cards he shouldn't have.

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You wanna hear a bad beat? I'm at Binions in vegas in a 120 tourney.

I call a 300 chip bet with 88.

flop comes 5 8 J. I go all in.

I'ts down to me and one other. He calls my all in.

He has trip 5's. I have trip 8's. I couldn't be happier.

He hit's his ONE OUTER 5 on the river to make quads.

THAT'S a bad beat [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Worst I've seen was in a STT at UB. Thankfully I had folded so wasn't directly involved in the hand. (Sorry for mentioning an online event in the Home forum.)

blinds are 100/200
MP has 800 chips left and limps in with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB has 4000 chips with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
MP has a straight flush and goes all in.
BB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB makes his higher straight flush.

River: irrelevant

That's the worst I've seen. Busted aces, trips, and full-houses and even quads can't be as agonizing as that.

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wow dude you suck at poker, go play another game and feel free to stop posting here

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Worst I've seen was in a STT at UB. Thankfully I had folded so wasn't directly involved in the hand. (Sorry for mentioning an online event in the Home forum.)

blinds are 100/200
MP has 800 chips left and limps in with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB has 4000 chips with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
MP has a straight flush and goes all in.
BB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB makes his higher straight flush.

River: irrelevant

That's the worst I've seen. Busted aces, trips, and full-houses and even quads can't be as agonizing as that.

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That is the worst beat I've ever heard of, lol.
That beat could cost you everything you have.

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"I laugh at him because he has no pair and no draw. The river shows a 3 of diamonds, giving him a closed straight and flush draw. I'm still about 75% to win so I'm not nervous. The river shows a 5 of clubs, giving him the A-5 straight. I was speechless and still am 3 hours later"

You must have gotten these hands/flop horribly wrong, or you were smokin' SOMETHING. Look at the flop again, Mr Sees No Flop Draw

"I'm thinking of hanging up my poker for good now, thats how damaging this was"
That might be a good idea

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Is this an inside joke?

He didn't play either hand according to his post

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You don't hear the term "sucker straight flush" too often.

-Yarney

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Seriosuly dude, talk when a guy hits his 4% outer or something like that.

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Naaaaah, not even a 4%. That's a two outer on the river -- yawn. Hey, I got beat what I think is about a 50,000-1 shot (two consecutive hands in a MTT) and decided no one really cares.

More to the point -- we're missing a lot of facts here, which could change the analysis, but .... If I'm short-stacked and want to make my stand, I usually want something a bit better than A-9o.

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LOL -- I did that to someone just yesteday in a SNG, except I had trip 8s against a straight. It was sweet!!!

However, that kind of beat when it's against me is less upsetting what the OP wrote about. If your opp goes all in with trip 5s, you can't really fault him, you'd have done the same thing, so if you lose you lose. It's when the Poker Gods reward a really stupid play that's frustrating.

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Did you notice that with Q4 and an A25 flop...he had hit his straight on the turn, and not the river?

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If that's the worst beat you've ever seen you haven't played much hold'em, and you are in for a nasty surprise.

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Me K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] flop is K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I bet and get re raised so I push he calls and shows A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Then the turn is a 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and river is the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Me [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I was shooting a TV story with some local pros when I put this one on of them.

I had A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]...flop came 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
He was short stacked, I pushed him all in, he called.
Showed 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Turn: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
River: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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cant believe you let the player back in after he folded.

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That was my very first thought. Why would you let a player back in after he folded? THAT'S the mistake, not that he played cards he shouldn't have.

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That's result-oriented thinking. If you have top pair and your opp. is minded to fold, don't you think you have the advantage? If he says fold and then a few seconds later says wait, can I change my mind, you make a read. If you think he's not angling, then it's +EV to let him put more money in as a dog.

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LOL -- I did that to someone just yesteday in a SNG, except I had trip 8s against a straight. It was sweet!!!

However, that kind of beat when it's against me is less upsetting what the OP wrote about. If your opp goes all in with trip 5s, you can't really fault him, you'd have done the same thing, so if you lose you lose. It's when the Poker Gods reward a really stupid play that's frustrating.

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You're right. A bad beat from stupid play infuriates me sometimes. I wasn't angry at all with the Binions beat I was just in shock, lol.

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that's not a beat, that's a catch by the Aces. What, he's dumping his hand on the flop?

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Do you have ENOUGH of an advantage to overcome 100% success on the flop when they fold?
Limit, probably. NL, getting knocked out once may not make you as happy about getting +EV calls

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that's not a beat, that's a catch by the Aces. What, he's dumping his hand on the flop?

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I never said that it was just rather disapointing. I never said he had no business in the hand just very rare thats all.

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that's not the worst beat imaginable. And if something like that is really making you want to quit..well, then I gues you weren't made for poker to begin with.

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<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
pokenum -h ac 9s - qh 4d -- ad 2d 5h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Ad 2d 5h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9s Ac 769 77.68 209 21.11 12 1.21 0.783
4d Qh 209 21.11 769 77.68 12 1.21 0.217 </pre><hr />

you did not give other suits, but I used the worse for you.
You got a guy all in in a situation where you are ~78% to win. Good job, and do NOT complain about a hand like that in future.
I guarantee you that many many other players here have seen much worse than that.

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i had one much worse today... had a set of 5s against somebody who called my all-in with top pair jacks, 9 kicker (complete fish) he turned and rivered two nines to take it down with a higher boat. to OP... you're a [censored].

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I had the worst of them all!

I had J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the BB. Guy minraises, I call. Flop comes A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I check he bets I push all in for 1 billion dollars cash and he calls and turns over A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Turn brings A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] but I'm not worried

River brings the last A, the mystical 2nd A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and I lose with my royal flush to 5 of a kind. I MEAN WTF IS THAT

Now I'm broke [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Worst I've seen was in a STT at UB. Thankfully I had folded so wasn't directly involved in the hand. (Sorry for mentioning an online event in the Home forum.)

blinds are 100/200
MP has 800 chips left and limps in with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB has 4000 chips with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
MP has a straight flush and goes all in.
BB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB makes his higher straight flush.

River: irrelevant

That's the worst I've seen. Busted aces, trips, and full-houses and even quads can't be as agonizing as that.

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That is the worst beat I've ever heard of, lol.
That beat could cost you everything you have.

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and that beat wouldnt even qualify for a bad beat jackpot since he only used one of his hole cards to make the higher straight flush.

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I got knocked out of a 2000 player tourney just short of making it into the money.. I had about the avg stack. I went all in with JJ and get one caller with AQ. I have the best hand preflop, and improve it on every round, and have the lead on every round all the way to the river, where I catch quads.... and lose... not a huge beat in terms of outs (he had 7).. but pretty unlikely sequence of events to catch quads and get knocked out of a tourney..

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not quite...
I had one pair preflop-JJ
then with a 464 flop I had 2 pair
then with a 4 on the turn I had a boat
and the 4 on the river gave me quads... and a boot out of the tourney...

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I had the worst of them all!

I had J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the BB. Guy minraises, I call. Flop comes A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I check he bets I push all in for 1 billion dollars cash and he calls and turns over A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Turn brings A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] but I'm not worried

River brings the last A, the mystical 2nd A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and I lose with my royal flush to 5 of a kind. I MEAN WTF IS THAT

Now I'm broke [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I almost started to cry when I read this. I'm serious, I was shaking uncontrollably with laughter, covering my mouth so that the snorts sounded like coughs to my coworkers. Sigh... I'm such a nerd.

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not quite...
I had one pair preflop-JJ
then with a 464 flop I had 2 pair
then with a 4 on the turn I had a boat
and the 4 on the river gave me quads... and a boot out of the tourney...

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just so you know, nobody talks like that.

for instance, if a board reads 5569Q and you have 9K you don't say "i have two pair" even though you do... you say "i have a nine" or "i have nines" cuz its [censored] obvious you have 2 pair. in your case the Jack at the end didn't give "you" quads... it put quads on the board... it "gave you" a jack kicker.


by the way, don't complain about losing coinflips, please. before the hand it was about 55-45. and, he could have beat you on the river with a 4, ace, or queen: as you said, that's 7 outs -- far within the realm of possibility.

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not quite...
I had one pair preflop-JJ
then with a 464 flop I had 2 pair
then with a 4 on the turn I had a boat
and the 4 on the river gave me quads... and a boot out of the tourney...

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just so you know, nobody talks like that.

for instance, if a board reads 5569Q and you have 9K you don't say "i have two pair" even though you do... you say "i have a nine" or "i have nines" cuz its [censored] obvious you have 2 pair. in your case the Jack at the end didn't give "you" quads... it put quads on the board... it "gave you" a jack kicker.


by the way, don't complain about losing coinflips, please. before the hand it was about 55-45. and, he could have beat you on the river with a 4, ace, or queen: as you said, that's 7 outs -- far within the realm of possibility.

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Wow, I hate it when people are a dick about someone that posts something interesting. This guy never complained about a bad beat, he just shared an interesting riddle which stemmed from a hand he played. I really enjoyed it.

-Yarney

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"people like you should be shot"

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not quite...
I had one pair preflop-JJ
then with a 464 flop I had 2 pair
then with a 4 on the turn I had a boat
and the 4 on the river gave me quads... and a boot out of the tourney...

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just so you know, nobody talks like that.

for instance, if a board reads 5569Q and you have 9K you don't say "i have two pair" even though you do... you say "i have a nine" or "i have nines" cuz its [censored] obvious you have 2 pair. in your case the Jack at the end didn't give "you" quads... it put quads on the board... it "gave you" a jack kicker.


by the way, don't complain about losing coinflips, please. before the hand it was about 55-45. and, he could have beat you on the river with a 4, ace, or queen: as you said, that's 7 outs -- far within the realm of possibility.

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Wow, I hate it when people are a dick about someone that posts something interesting. This guy never complained about a bad beat, he just shared an interesting riddle which stemmed from a hand he played. I really enjoyed it.

-Yarney

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Thanks- that was my point.. it was an unlikely sequence of events. At the time of course it was frustrating, but now it is merely interesting. And I know pre-flop it was basically a race.

My hand, strictly in terms of rank, did improve with each round. In terms of my hand vs his, I went way up on the flop, as he lost all possibility for a flush and a straight, and now 3 cards were gone. On the turn, he gained an out in the form of the final 4. And when the 4 came, it did indeed give me quads.

Just because it gave him quads too, doesn't mean it didn't give me quads. I don't understand that comment at all. Every hand you play to showdown, you are using from 3 to 5 community cards to make your hand. So the board was 44644. That gives everyone in the hand quads, even the losers like me...
Disappointing, but I'm not trying to whine about a bad beat- it is just unusual enough to lose with quads, let alone get it done to you when it counted so much.

I kicked out of a 600 person live event in 7th when some guy called my all in on the turn and hit a 2-outer on the river. Now THAT was a bad beat.... especially since he and I were virtually tied for 1st/2nd at the time.