Your ENTIRE bankroll on AA...do you do it?
 

If given the oppurtunity in heads up play, to put all your bankroll on AA...do you do it?

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My entire poker bankroll on AA? Yes

All the money I own + assets? No

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preflop? hell yeah

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despite the odds I'm getting, I built up my bankroll too big that I can't imagine starting from scratch again if I busted...so a reluctant no.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Seriously, absolutely not.

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I would, because my bankroll is near its lowest at the moment.

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I don't think I'd be willing to put my entire bankroll into play HU, much less bet it all on a single hand. Even one that I'm an 85% chance to win (assuming we're talking preflop).

The best that happens is I double up, the worst that happens is I'm broke. I'm not enough of a gambler to say the former outweighs the latter.

Of course, it would depend on my read of my opponent's hand.. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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For me I think this might be possible on some of the poker sites. Although I would have to fold until I hit my AA.

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My entire poker bankroll on AA? Yes

All the money I own + assets? No

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correct answer

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My bankroll is 5 figures (actual, not hypothetical).
I am playing heads up and my opponent pushes from the small blind for the exact amount of my bankroll.
I beat him in the pot.
Any other play and I should pick up my chips, cash out, and play a different game than poker.


All of this assumes the action is preflop.

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My opponent folded and all I got was the damn blind money. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Yea, I built it up once, I'll do it again if need be.

You offering? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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If you wouldn't put your entire bankroll pre-flop on AA, then why are you playing poker? That's the best odds poker has to offer!

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Because I spent months building up my bankroll and no one is a sure winner in the short term. I'm not going to risk it all on a single bet to get to a level of cash I will reach anyway.

Once you double up, then what? Would you do it again? Keep doing it till you're broke??

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If you wouldn't put your entire bankroll pre-flop on AA, then why are you playing poker? That's the best odds poker has to offer!

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Correct.
The 32% of people who answered no should not be playing poker.

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count me in

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I recall a thread where the best hands against AA was discussed. It was 65s with I think 24% equity. So you're basically a 76% favorite (or greater) to double your entire bankroll on that bet.

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If you wouldn't put your entire bankroll pre-flop on AA, then why are you playing poker? That's the best odds poker has to offer!

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"But there's only one bullet, and there are six chambers!"

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I recall a thread where the best hands against AA was discussed. It was 65s with I think 24% equity. So you're basically a 76% favorite (or greater) to double your entire bankroll on that bet.

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I've heard it is JTs, but i could be wrong.

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but i could be wrong.

indeed

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My bankroll at any given site, yes. My entire bankroll? No.

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Shouldn't it be any suited connector that doesn't make a straight with an ace? 98s, 87s, 76s?

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The 32% of people who answered no should not be playing poker.

um wrong. you have to factor in risk of ruin. if i lost, i would have to get a job. no thanks.

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Two of the cards JTs needs to make a straight are missing.

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98s max22.47%
78s max22.87% //best you'll get
67s max22.87% //best you'll get
56s max22.87% //best you'll get
JTs max21.55%
any PP ~20%

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Shouldn't it be any suited connector that doesn't make a straight with an ace? 98s, 87s, 76s?

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Yes, you are correct. So when asked what is the best hand, it's 98s (sure 87s has the same odds, but the 9 is higher).

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My answer is 'no' (of course, this can be bankroll dependent too).


When I am just playing poker in general I estimate that I have around a 1-2% advantage much of the time. Perhaps a little bit more.
so I adjust the amount that I have at risk accordingly.

Same goes for an doubleup-or-nothing proposition where I'm an 85:15 favorite.
This is not enough of an advantage for me to risk all my money.


For those saying yes....then I assume you would also not have any issue just taking a roll of the dice for an 85% advantage (picture a 100 sided die or something).

Is there some percentage where you wouldn't accept this bet?
I am hoping you would not choose to take this bet at 51% advantage for example.

Do you take it at 75%??
70%??


The issue is NOT that 'you have AA and that's the best hand you can get in poker'.

The issue is whether you are willing to put all your money on the line for an 85% chance of doubling-up or going broke.


If I don't go on super monkey-tilt or spend it all, then I have about a 99% chance or higher of doubling-up my money just playing the way I am playing now (especially since I am willing to step back in limits and re-build if things get tough for me at the tables).

Obviously it will take longer doing it my way.

But I view taking the 85% chance of double-up to be a foolish risk considering that I am already at a 99% chance if I just grind out all my little hands and give myself a chance to get to the long-run.

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I am pretty sure it s 78s is the best cards against AA. HAHA, do you remember that debate about hte six chambers in the gun question posed by David S. That was ugly!

I voted yes, but In ACTUALITY - I would not do it. Im not risking thousands of dollars on a 75% chance of winning.

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an unsuprising observation: "pro" players say no, recreational/semi-pro players say yes.

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I voted yes, but In ACTUALITY - I would not do it.

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hmmm, i don't think you understand the poll. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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teddyfbi plays full-time for income and obviously is in the 'yes' camp.

otherwise though, I do think your observation has some validity.

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I don't even consider myself a gambler and I'd take that bet without thinking.

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I don't even consider myself a gambler and I'd take that bet without thinking.

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In that case, at what point does wagering several thousand dollars (adjust upwards as necessary) become gambling?

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65s is a little better than the other SCs because it beats AA's wheel. I guess this a a question of how much you value your BR. As a 76% favorite at least, most recreational players would take this bet no problem.

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If I knew someone who'd stake me if I busted I might say yes. Otherwise it's a definite no. I need my money to pay the bills. I become a bum if I drop my BR.

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Definite NO!

You are risking not only your bankroll but all future winnings made from having the bankroll.

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The 32% of people who answered no should not be playing poker.

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Once you double up, then what? Would you do it again? Keep doing it till you're broke??

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The people saying yes to this most likely do not have big bankrolls and could replenish them easily, or are just full of crap.

Also, if this bet was continaully offered to them and they kept taking it, which using their logic they undoubtedly would, going broke is an inevitability.

No way in hell I risk my whole bankroll on AA all-in HU. A percentage yes, the whole thing, no.

Nigel

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On Empire yes, party no way in hell

Seriously though -- no I would not. I would be willing to risk maybe 50 BBs or so. I have worked to hard on my bankroll, that if I lost it all, it would take me too long to rebuild it, where as if I keep going at my current pace I KNOW that I will be fine.

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I said yes, but I keep my bankroll down to only a few thousand dollars, which I could recoup in a couple of weeks if I played enough.

Probably the most I'd do it for would be about 10K, give or take depending on my level of need in the real world at the time. To put another way what others have already pointed out: there are diminishing returns. That first 10K might be much more important to me than the next 10K.

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I'm more curious about what percentage is your 'breaking point' for such a wager.


Okay...so you're willing to put all your money on the line for an 85% 'roll of the dice' (note - it doesn't matter if we're talking AA or we're talking about a 100-sided die here....we're actually NOT playing poker in the question given).


Do you take this chance at 77%?
71%?
68%?


As I stated already: I am liking my 99% chance of doubling my money by playing small a LOT better.


But obviously some people are okay to do this at 85%...and I'm curious if any of those same people would be okay to do it if the chances for success were at 75% or lower.