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KaneKungFu123 07-23-2005 12:56 PM

The Conundrum of Ugly and/or Fat Chicks
 
What is their evolutionary purpose?

ihardlyknowher 07-23-2005 01:09 PM

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What is their evolutionary purpose?

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To SIIHP.

gorie 07-23-2005 01:10 PM

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to have your kids.

kerssens 07-23-2005 01:11 PM

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KaneKungFu123 07-23-2005 01:11 PM

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to have your kids.

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why didnt god just make all chicks hot? wouldn't that be better, evolutionary wise?

hoopsie44 07-23-2005 01:13 PM

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What is their evolutionary purpose?

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The same question could be asked of moronic posters.

KaneKungFu123 07-23-2005 01:17 PM

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What is their evolutionary purpose?

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The same question could be asked of moronic posters.

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einbert 07-23-2005 01:19 PM

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to have your kids.

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why didnt god just make all chicks hot? wouldn't that be better, evolutionary wise?

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IMO, all chicks can't be equally hot unless they all look the same, and that would be incredibly bland.

Your Mom 07-23-2005 01:20 PM

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To make sure you can get some.

gorie 07-23-2005 01:22 PM

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to have your kids.

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why didnt god just make all chicks hot? wouldn't that be better, evolutionary wise?

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you sound awfully religious for an evil person.

Homer 07-23-2005 01:24 PM

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to have your kids.

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why didnt god just make all chicks hot? wouldn't that be better, evolutionary wise?

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if all chicks were hot, then no chicks would be hot. do you see why?

KaneKungFu123 07-23-2005 01:24 PM

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to have your kids.

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why didnt god just make all chicks hot? wouldn't that be better, evolutionary wise?

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IMO, all chicks can't be equally hot unless they all look the same, and that would be incredibly bland.

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you know what i meant. they would be equally hot, but not all the same looking.

einbert 07-23-2005 01:31 PM

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you know what i meant. they would be equally hot, but not all the same looking.

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Maybe I didn't understand exactly what you meant, but what I was trying to say is that I don't understand exactly how they can be equally hot but not all the same looking.

It would also depend on your personal preference, some people prefer woman A over woman B but others it's vice versa.

In all it probably comes down to the fact that we are programmed to pick "good" mates and for some reason certain physical qualities jump out at us as "good" for whatever reason.

More likely it's a societal thing, I think.

But yeah, back to my original point. I really don't think it's possible that you can have a ton of women who look different but are all considered equally hot. You would find something about some of the women to make them seem hotter than the others.

Alobar 07-23-2005 01:39 PM

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But yeah, back to my original point. I really don't think it's possible that you can have a ton of women who look different but are all considered equally hot. You would find something about some of the women to make them seem hotter than the others.

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but they would still all be hot, which is what I think he was trying to say.

kurosh 07-23-2005 01:45 PM

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Maybe you should stick to the mid-high NL forum?

mmbt0ne 07-23-2005 01:47 PM

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why didnt god just make all chicks hot?

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wouldn't that be better, evolutionary wise?

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coffeecrazy1 07-23-2005 01:50 PM

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"Oh, won't you take me home tonight?
Oh, down beside that red firelight...
Oh, you gonna let it all hang out,
Fat bottomed girls, you make the rockin' world go 'round."
-Queen

Seriously, though...it's to balance out some of the extremely ugly guys, so they can get a little, too.

einbert 07-23-2005 01:50 PM

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But yeah, back to my original point. I really don't think it's possible that you can have a ton of women who look different but are all considered equally hot. You would find something about some of the women to make them seem hotter than the others.

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but they would still all be hot, which is what I think he was trying to say.

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Let me try to state my perspective from a numbers POV.

Let's assume that right now women are somewhat "normally" distributed according to a hotness of 0-10. So, if this happened I guess we could say that all the 0-5's would be zapped into nothingness, and we would be left with the 6-10's. So, now a 6 is the bottom of the food chain instead of middle class. If you thought a 6 was hot before, do you think she is ugly now that she is hotter than basically noone? Or do you just think that everyone is beautiful.

On the flip side, if all the 6-10's in the world were suddenly gone, 5's and 4's would begin to look hot. Hotness is just a totally relative term.

Even if you got rid of all the 0-8's, you would still have a lot of 9's and 10's, and the hottest 10's would quickly be sorted out from the ugliest 9's, IMO.

In fact I believe that something like this would take place:
The old 0-10 scale would be redistributed based on the remaining women. So if you got rid of all the 0-5's a 6 would now be a 1 and a 7.5 would now be a 5 (relative to the population).

Do you guys think that if the 0-5's all were suddenly gone, phrases like "ugly" and "unattractive" would just go out the window? This is probably one reasonable hypothesis, but I disagree with it if that is what you are saying.


Another way to look at this problem, is to say that well it's your fault because you're calling them ugly. If you chose to, you could scale all women from "reasonably attractive" to "very hot" rather than from "very ugly" to "very hot" or whatever it is now.

Pretty interesting thing to consider, in any case.

einbert 07-23-2005 01:52 PM

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why didnt god just make all chicks hot?

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wouldn't that be better, evolutionary wise?

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Because God and evolution cannot possibly coexist in the same hypothetical universe? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

CallMeIshmael 07-23-2005 02:01 PM

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why didnt god just make all chicks hot?

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wouldn't that be better, evolutionary wise?

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Because God and evolution cannot possibly coexist in the same hypothetical universe? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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jason_t 07-23-2005 02:06 PM

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What is their evolutionary purpose?

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Questions like this demonstrate a gross misunderstanding of the mechanisms of evolution.

mmbt0ne 07-23-2005 02:07 PM

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Read some more of KKF's posts to get an idea of his thoughts on God.

pokertonbear1 07-23-2005 02:09 PM

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agreed...if all girls were equally hot, then ugly/fat guys wouldn't have a prayer of procreation which answers the evolutionary purpose of ugly/fat girls.

gorie 07-23-2005 02:11 PM

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agreed...if all girls were equally hot, then ugly/fat guys wouldn't have a prayer of procreation which answers the evolutionary purpose of ugly/fat girls.

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but all guys are hot ! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

einbert 07-23-2005 02:12 PM

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Read some more of KKF's posts to get an idea of his thoughts on God.

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I have read a lot of his posts.

I believe he was presenting the question as a hypothetical question, given some assumed model of the universe or something.

But I have to agree with you on one point, the original wording of the post didn't seem quite right.

I agree with jason_t's point in particular, but again I think this error falls into miscommunication at some point. Of course I could be wrong.

My iniial impression was, and still is, that this thread isn't really about evolution, God, or the universe, but basically it's about ugly girls and why do we have to put up with them. Which is a fine topic for OOT discussion I guess. It's an interesting one in some aspects anyway.

Lazymeatball 07-23-2005 02:12 PM

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agreed...if all girls were equally hot, then ugly/fat guys wouldn't have a prayer of procreation which answers the evolutionary purpose of ugly/fat girls.

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This is incorrect as long as there are more women then men on this planet.

Anyway, the answer as to why ugly/fat women still exist is because horny guys keep fuc[/b]king them.

TheMainEvent 07-23-2005 02:14 PM

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Anyway, the answer as to why ugly/fat women still exist is because horny guys keep [censored] them.

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This is probably the most accurate post in this thread.

gorie 07-23-2005 02:29 PM

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agreed...if all girls were equally hot, then ugly/fat guys wouldn't have a prayer of procreation which answers the evolutionary purpose of ugly/fat girls.

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This is incorrect as long as there are more women then men on this planet.

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do you honestly believe this ? obviously they'd have a chance still, but do you really not think it makes a difference ? i'm pretty sure ugly/fat guys have better chances having ugly/fat women on the planet, than just having 'too many' hot girls.

Lazymeatball 07-23-2005 02:34 PM

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Yes, I honestly believe this. Are women going to stop having sex because they are too hot?

gorie 07-23-2005 02:35 PM

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Yes, I honestly believe this. Are women going to stop having sex because they are too hot?

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no, they're going to fight over the hot men.

TheMainEvent 07-23-2005 02:37 PM

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do you honestly believe this ? obviously they'd have a chance still, but do you really not think it makes a difference ? i'm pretty sure ugly/fat guys have better chances having ugly/fat women on the planet, than just having 'too many' hot girls.

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You're implying that ugly girls are inherently more attracted to ugly guys than hot girls are. In reality, ugly girls just can't do any better. There are self-esteem issues too, of course, but there would be no reason for hot girls to have a particularly high self-esteem with regard to looks if all other girls were equally hot.

KaneKungFu123 07-23-2005 02:37 PM

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i read that the birth rate in first world countries is falling. its probally because there is too much wealth, and the chicks eat too much.

in a poor country they keep their figures longer, hence, more [censored].

ive read your posts about math, so i know you are pretty smart. it'd be cool if you wrote a long post about the correlation of hotness and evolution.


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Questions like this demonstrate a gross misunderstanding of the mechanisms of evolution.

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KaneKungFu123 07-23-2005 02:39 PM

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Yes, I honestly believe this. Are women going to stop having sex because they are too hot?

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exactly.

this is what i am getting at...

Lazymeatball 07-23-2005 02:40 PM

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so we have a difference of opinion that is impossible to ever settle. cool. the way I see it is it's simple economics, supply and demand, hot women will sleep with ugly guys given no other option. And what do people mean by fat anyway? Pushing a couple bills, or just a belly hanging out from a tight t-shirt?

KaneKungFu123 07-23-2005 02:40 PM

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do you honestly believe this ? obviously they'd have a chance still, but do you really not think it makes a difference ? i'm pretty sure ugly/fat guys have better chances having ugly/fat women on the planet, than just having 'too many' hot girls.

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You're implying that ugly girls are inherently more attracted to ugly guys than hot girls are. In reality, ugly girls just can't do any better. There are self-esteem issues too, of course, but there would be no reason for hot girls to have a particularly high self-esteem with regard to looks if all other girls were equally hot.

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exactly.

this thread has potential to be the best ever.

Peter666 07-23-2005 02:40 PM

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They are here to feed us. First by preparing food, and then to be eaten themselves.

TheMainEvent 07-23-2005 02:41 PM

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no, they're going to fight over the hot men.

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And there will presumably be winners and losers in this 'fight'...what will the losers do?

gorie 07-23-2005 02:43 PM

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do you honestly believe this ? obviously they'd have a chance still, but do you really not think it makes a difference ? i'm pretty sure ugly/fat guys have better chances having ugly/fat women on the planet, than just having 'too many' hot girls.

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You're implying that ugly girls are inherently more attracted to ugly guys than hot girls are.

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no, i'm not implying that. i didn't say anything about ugly girls being more attracted to the ugly guys. i just said the ugly guys chances increase. i was actually implying it more because neither can do better, so they pair up with an equal.

einbert 07-23-2005 02:45 PM

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This is probably correct. I'll try to write up a proof by induction.

gorie 07-23-2005 02:45 PM

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no, they're going to fight over the hot men.

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And there will presumably be winners and losers in this 'fight'...what will the losers do?

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start threads like this on internet forums ? i don't know.

they go after another guy they're attracted to.
are all hot guys going to refuse sex from hot girls because they already have one ?


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