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CaptSensible 07-23-2005 01:13 AM

I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
Here is a very strange but consistant phenomena I've found the party poker sngs. If i'm in a down swing I look at the seats that are winning. More often than not they are consistant winners. right now for me it seems to be seat 1 and 10 are the winners. Not only am I winning when I play those seats (particularly seat 10) but I get so lucky that it's riduculous. if i have TT against KK i flop the set.
If I have 9 8 against AA I make a straight. Even the table comments on my luck. I still apply the general SnG rules but when I sit in the "hot seat" I get great cards and the flops to go with them. Eventually the seats get cold and then I look for the next "hot seats". Anyone else experience this?

tomdemaine 07-23-2005 01:14 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
fold

Sponger15SB 07-23-2005 01:18 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here is a very strange but consistant phenomena I've found the party poker sngs. If i'm in a down swing I look at the seats that are winning. More often than not they are consistant winners. right now for me it seems to be seat 1 and 10 are the winners. Not only am I winning when I play those seats (particularly seat 10) but I get so lucky that it's riduculous. if i have TT against KK i flop the set.
If I have 9 8 against AA I make a straight. Even the table comments on my luck. I still apply the general SnG rules but when I sit in the "hot seat" I get great cards and the flops to go with them. Eventually the seats get cold and then I look for the next "hot seats". Anyone else experience this?

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http://www.factspider.com/co/confirmation-bias.html

trdi 07-23-2005 01:18 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here is a very strange but consistant phenomena I've found the party poker sngs. If i'm in a down swing I look at the seats that are winning. More often than not they are consistant winners. right now for me it seems to be seat 1 and 10 are the winners. Not only am I winning when I play those seats (particularly seat 10) but I get so lucky that it's riduculous. if i have TT against KK i flop the set.
If I have 9 8 against AA I make a straight. Even the table comments on my luck. Eventually the seats get cold and then I look for the next "hot seats". Anyone else experience this?

[/ QUOTE ]
You are absolutely right. However, I also believe that seat 7 is a cheater and seat 4 is always fish. So no matter how good you are, if you are seat 4, you play the worst and if you are seat 7 you get a special cheating screen where you can see cards of your opponents. You just have to write in a special cheat code. I can sell it to you for $1000.

Jdogg 07-23-2005 01:25 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
Heh, I will only play if i get seat three.

trdi 07-23-2005 01:39 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
That's because you don't have the cheat code. $1000, PM me. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Jdogg 07-23-2005 01:49 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
You are as dumb as those people that sell there systems on the tv. Keep it to yourself... you will make way more that way!
[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

clutch 07-23-2005 02:15 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
Shhh.....

cain06 07-23-2005 02:16 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
Damn, I will never get these 45 seconds back again. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Slim Pickens 07-23-2005 02:28 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
You just made my night. nh

A_Junglen 07-23-2005 02:47 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
You really were asking for it with this thread..

viennagreen 07-23-2005 02:50 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
i like your screenname.

The Yugoslavian 07-23-2005 03:54 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
More like CaptDumbAsFuckingPossible.

Yugoslav

yabastid 07-23-2005 03:55 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
[ QUOTE ]
More like CaptDumbAsFuckingPossible.

Yugoslav

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LMAO

PrayingMantis 07-23-2005 04:01 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
This is a very good post. I believe citanul should put it into the FAQ.

Also, consider writing some more stuff on similar issues, that are rarely discussed here, and are extremely important:

1) What to wear when moving up in limits?

2) How do different kinds of flowers help your ITM%?

GL.

The Yugoslavian 07-23-2005 04:07 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
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2) How do different kinds of flowers help your ITM%?


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Tulips.

[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Yugoslav

SammyKid11 07-23-2005 04:21 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
Dear God...

Is the brain you gave me a blessing or a curse? On the one hand, I like that I'm not a moron. On the other hand, I so often find myself wanting to chew through my own wrists.

Thanks for the brain, I think.

PrayingMantis 07-23-2005 04:32 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
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Tulips.

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My new setup:

http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/3960/setup5zr.jpg

Roman 07-23-2005 04:37 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
[ QUOTE ]
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2) How do different kinds of flowers help your ITM%?


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Tulips.

[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Yugoslav

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HOW...

tshort 07-23-2005 04:44 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
Every time I lose out of a tournament, I make sure to stick around an extra 20 min until the end to see which seat wins. Capt, if you want to help me, we can get a database of info to figure out what the most profitable seat is. We could probably sell the information to forum members.

CaptSensible 07-23-2005 05:24 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
[ QUOTE ]
More like CaptDumbAsFuckingPossible.

Yugoslav

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You must be a very boring,unimaginative, uncreative person YUGO. Your obvious superiority due to your lack of superstition might be very impressive to you but it doesn't do a whole lot for me.

Every create anything? Build anything? Are you an artist? And NO being a winning poker player doesn't make you an artist. Your name calling, whether it's true or not, indicates much time spent in trailer parks watching the WWF.

Jennifer Harmon knows no poker math yet she's considered a poker great. She plays on feel. I respect that. Doyle Brunson plays T 2 with a consistancy that nears superstition if not crossing that line with room to spare.

If picking seats that I feel are winning seats wins me money and games then that, I guess, is my superstition. To call me "dumb as [censored] possible" shows absolutely no ability at cleverness or wit whatsoever. I remember the kids in 7th grade speaking just like that.

I'm a musician and writer with a long list of professional accomplishment behind me. Do you have a life outside of poker, Nascar and beer?

while my 38% win rate probably doesn't come close to your stellar poker accomplishments I have many other interests that inspire me. Poker is just one part of my life among many others.

What happened to you when you were younger? Daddy didn't love enough or a little too much?
See, now like it or not, There's a little bit of cleverness in that line and I didn't use a single cuss word.

CaptSensible 07-23-2005 05:28 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
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Every time I lose out of a tournament, I make sure to stick around an extra 20 min until the end to see which seat wins. Capt, if you want to help me, we can get a database of info to figure out what the most profitable seat is. We could probably sell the information to forum members.

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I'm in. We could get The Yugo to beat up the people that don't want to buy it since he reeks of hostility [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

citanul 07-23-2005 11:46 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
yugo and captsens:

no more namecalling. dynasty has started something that i think is brilliant: 2 day suspensions. brilliant!

captsens:

a) i'm pretty sure jen knows the math
b) i'm pretty sure doyle doesn't play T2 nearly as often as you think
c) beyond making you feel more comfortable at the table (which may have some EV to it) there is nothing to this sense that some seats are better than others.
d) it *may* be that good players tend to sit in those seats, who knows. that would make the players good, not the seats.
e) never confuse cause with effect.
f) you deserved to get a bit flamed for your OP, so calm the [censored] down.

yugo:

the correct answer is clearly orchids.

citanul

KyleM 07-23-2005 11:52 AM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
More like CaptDumbAsFuckingPossible.

Yugoslav

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You must be a very boring,unimaginative, uncreative person YUGO. Your obvious superiority due to your lack of superstition might be very impressive to you but it doesn't do a whole lot for me.

Every create anything? Build anything? Are you an artist? And NO being a winning poker player doesn't make you an artist. Your name calling, whether it's true or not, indicates much time spent in trailer parks watching the WWF.

Jennifer Harmon knows no poker math yet she's considered a poker great. She plays on feel. I respect that. Doyle Brunson plays T 2 with a consistancy that nears superstition if not crossing that line with room to spare.

If picking seats that I feel are winning seats wins me money and games then that, I guess, is my superstition. To call me "dumb as [censored] possible" shows absolutely no ability at cleverness or wit whatsoever. I remember the kids in 7th grade speaking just like that.

I'm a musician and writer with a long list of professional accomplishment behind me. Do you have a life outside of poker, Nascar and beer?

while my 38% win rate probably doesn't come close to your stellar poker accomplishments I have many other interests that inspire me. Poker is just one part of my life among many others.

What happened to you when you were younger? Daddy didn't love enough or a little too much?
See, now like it or not, There's a little bit of cleverness in that line and I didn't use a single cuss word.

[/ QUOTE ]


You just called "the yugoslavian" a dumb american redneck.

When he called you "CaptDumbAsFuckingPossible," he might have been giving you too much credit.

Also, I'll need your name on Party. Thanks.

trdi 07-23-2005 12:25 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
Emmmm... you know, I think Jenny knows more poker math than you might think.
About Doyle - I've seen him folding T2 preflop at least 3 times.

07-23-2005 01:02 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
I'm new - this is practice. Great thread, funny stuff.
I'm also new to online sngs. I always try for seats 10 or 1 - and now I know why! Great instincts, look for me in the winners circle.

07-23-2005 01:17 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here is a very strange but consistant phenomena I've found the party poker sngs. If i'm in a down swing I look at the seats that are winning. More often than not they are consistant winners. right now for me it seems to be seat 1 and 10 are the winners. Not only am I winning when I play those seats (particularly seat 10) but I get so lucky that it's riduculous. if i have TT against KK i flop the set.
If I have 9 8 against AA I make a straight. Even the table comments on my luck. I still apply the general SnG rules but when I sit in the "hot seat" I get great cards and the flops to go with them. Eventually the seats get cold and then I look for the next "hot seats". Anyone else experience this?

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The bald guy never wins. Don't sit in that seat [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

eastbay 07-23-2005 01:22 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here is a very strange but consistant phenomena I've found the party poker sngs. If i'm in a down swing I look at the seats that are winning. More often than not they are consistant winners. right now for me it seems to be seat 1 and 10 are the winners. Not only am I winning when I play those seats (particularly seat 10) but I get so lucky that it's riduculous. if i have TT against KK i flop the set.
If I have 9 8 against AA I make a straight. Even the table comments on my luck. I still apply the general SnG rules but when I sit in the "hot seat" I get great cards and the flops to go with them. Eventually the seats get cold and then I look for the next "hot seats". Anyone else experience this?

[/ QUOTE ]

Definitely. Pay no attention to these naysayers, they are closed minded jerks. These hot seats are best found not by trial and error, which wastes a lot of EV as they do move over time, but by the use of divining rods or dowsing pendulum. I am offering specially designed hot seat divining rods for $199. Traditional divining rods cannot navigate the interference between your energy field and your monitor's traditional "scientific" radiation field. These specially designed divining rods neutralize this interference, giving a high quality divining response. Precision, high performance hot seat divining rods for 8-tabling are available on a limited basis for $299. Hot seat dowsing pendulums are in a research phase, and I think their potential for finding the hot seats is even more spectacular. Don't get left behind, those getting in touch with their spiritual potential are taking this game to a new level.

eastbay

microbet 07-23-2005 01:25 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
This thread

Hey, it's just a joke Capt., no need to go Nascar on me.

JayKon 07-23-2005 01:29 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
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I am offering specially designed hot seat divining rods for $199.

[/ QUOTE ]

Count me IN! Will you take NetTeller? I hope overnight shipping is available.

trdi 07-23-2005 01:58 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
Don't listen to him. He just wants your money. Check my posts about the special cheat code for only $999.90 for seat 7! Yes, there is a discount only for you.

ewing55 07-23-2005 02:05 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
So this is what everyone is talking about. Eastbay's PowerTools. (What are the other tools??? or is there only one.) Where do you buy these? Do you have a website. Please PM me, I don't want everyone else to know.

---------------Jeff

wildzer0 07-23-2005 02:08 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
Can I trade in my SNGPT towards it? All that math was making my brain hurt anyway.

benfranklin 07-23-2005 02:10 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
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I am offering specially designed hot seat divining rods for $199. Traditional divining rods cannot navigate the interference between your energy field and your monitor's traditional "scientific" radiation field.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is an obvious scam, blatantly attempting to bilk the new and naive players.

Experienced pros know that the interference between your energy field and the radiation field is easily neutralized by an AFDB (Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie). The scientific basis for this is documented here.

Just remember, shiny side out.

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/afdbtest.bbjjjb.jpg

SlackerMcFly 07-23-2005 02:13 PM

One true way and only one way
 
The hot-seat divining rod works! But it's not effective unless you have the formula for choosing the color of your cards.

While using the divining rod, you absolutely must choose Orange if you are in seats 2-5, but only in levels 1 and 4. The formula changes for every other blind increase except on Saturdays and Wednesdays when the reverse order is used.

This is a free tip.

To receive your complete guide on "Card color Super System for Winning Poker Players", have your credit card handy and scoot on over to: www.ImaWetDonkeyIdiot .com (no spaces)

Yugo uses this system, that's why he is so wealthy and successful.

Karak567 07-23-2005 02:18 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
Well, I've found that seats 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 are the most likely ones to win. As long as you get in one of them, you are set.

benfranklin 07-23-2005 02:24 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
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Jennifer Harmon knows no poker math

[/ QUOTE ]

If you believe that, I have some prime ocean front property you might like to invest in. And it's only 30 minutes from the LV strip. Oh, and Phil Hellmuth can see into your soul too. You forgot that one.

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Doyle Brunson plays T 2 with a consistancy that nears superstition if not crossing that line with room to spare.

[/ QUOTE ]

Doyle won a hand at the TV table in the 2003 ME with T2. He said on camera that he tries to play that hand once every big tournament just for fun.

[ QUOTE ]
Daddy didn't love enough or a little too much?
See, now like it or not, There's a little bit of cleverness in that line and I didn't use a single cuss word.

[/ QUOTE ]

The little bit of cleverness was so little I missed it. Perhaps because it was obscured by the line's great bit of offensiveness.

unit63 07-23-2005 02:52 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Doyle Brunson plays T 2 with a consistancy that nears superstition if not crossing that line with room to spare.

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If by "consistency" you mean "Doyle Brunson hands that TV producers like to put on the air as opposed to the uncontested Texas Fold'em hands that outnumber showdown hands by probably 30-to-1 and are nearly all edited out for TV," then yes, I'd say he plays T2 very consistently.

He just plays T2 for a laugh once in a while to mug for the cameras. The one or two times out of thousands of hands that he does this aren't statistically significant to his overall play given the many other strong factors he brings to the game. When you get to Doyle's level of experience, $$$, and grandiose stature, you should feel free to do the same with your seat selection. Until then, stick to reality.

And "thank you" for playing Party Poker! Really!

The Yugoslavian 07-23-2005 03:30 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
More like CaptDumbAsFuckingPossible.

Yugoslav

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You must be a very boring,unimaginative, uncreative person YUGO. Your obvious superiority due to your lack of superstition might be very impressive to you but it doesn't do a whole lot for me.

Every create anything? Build anything? Are you an artist? And NO being a winning poker player doesn't make you an artist. Your name calling, whether it's true or not, indicates much time spent in trailer parks watching the WWF.

Jennifer Harmon knows no poker math yet she's considered a poker great. She plays on feel. I respect that. Doyle Brunson plays T 2 with a consistancy that nears superstition if not crossing that line with room to spare.

If picking seats that I feel are winning seats wins me money and games then that, I guess, is my superstition. To call me "dumb as [censored] possible" shows absolutely no ability at cleverness or wit whatsoever. I remember the kids in 7th grade speaking just like that.

I'm a musician and writer with a long list of professional accomplishment behind me. Do you have a life outside of poker, Nascar and beer?

while my 38% win rate probably doesn't come close to your stellar poker accomplishments I have many other interests that inspire me. Poker is just one part of my life among many others.

What happened to you when you were younger? Daddy didn't love enough or a little too much?
See, now like it or not, There's a little bit of cleverness in that line and I didn't use a single cuss word.

[/ QUOTE ]

You are my new favorite poster....

I'm not even kidding.

Yugoslav
TULIPS BATCHES!

Jay36489 07-23-2005 03:46 PM

Re: I\'m convinced PP sngs are seat dependant.
 
Doyle mucks T2 just like everyone else, and he hates that the hand is named after him...


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