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Vince Young 07-20-2005 12:18 AM

Ohio State
 
Just how much better are they than last year?

Colonel Kataffy 07-20-2005 02:56 AM

Re: Ohio State
 
Better enough to win the Big Ten, but not enough to beat USC.

pokerdirty 07-20-2005 03:23 AM

Re: Ohio State
 
good enough to beat texas september 10th.

go bucks!

Vince Young 07-20-2005 04:28 AM

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good enough to beat texas september 10th.

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No.

kyro 07-20-2005 08:37 AM

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penn state wins it this year. and i wish i had credible evidence to back this up...

actually, our D should be one of the best in the country again.

mmbt0ne 07-20-2005 10:37 AM

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Be excited. I heard on ESPN that you guys might go .500 this year.

keats 07-20-2005 01:05 PM

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Just how much better are they than last year?

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Depends how much Profit they turned last year...

kyro 07-20-2005 03:23 PM

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Be excited. I heard on ESPN that you guys might go .500 this year.

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How sad is it when PSU fans are excited about a .500 season. I went at a bad time I guess.

07-20-2005 04:15 PM

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[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] :Face of Ohio st. fans after Vince scores his second rushing td.

Victor 07-20-2005 04:38 PM

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vince is going to have a very hard time getting rushing yards in that game.

mason55 07-20-2005 06:52 PM

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Just how much better are they than last year?

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Better than they were at the end of last season. Easy big ten champs. If they can get past Texas they have enough talent and enough time to build an undefeated season.

Patrick del Poker Grande 07-20-2005 07:12 PM

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Just how much better are they than last year?

[/ QUOTE ]Easy big ten champs.

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There's no such thing as "easy Big Ten champs".

battschr 07-20-2005 07:20 PM

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Yup, Michigan and Iowa might have something to say about the Big Ten this year.

Colonel Kataffy 07-20-2005 07:25 PM

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Wisconsin won't [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Patrick del Poker Grande 07-20-2005 07:33 PM

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Yup, Michigan and Iowa might have something to say about the Big Ten this year.

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Michigan will always have something to say about it. <font color="blue"> LET'S GO BLUE! </font>

pokerdirty 07-21-2005 04:16 AM

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[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] :Face of Texas fans after Vince gets sacked for the 8th time

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FYP

P.S. [censored] Michigan.

Vince Young 07-21-2005 05:52 AM

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[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] :Face of Texas fans after Vince gets sacked for the 8th time

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FYP

P.S. [censored] Michigan.

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hahahah

Chairman Wood 07-21-2005 07:04 AM

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Who cares, they suck ass every year!
Go Blue!!

Clarkmeister 07-21-2005 11:13 AM

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Who cares. If the NCAA does their job (unlikely) their program will be dealing with sanctions soon anyways. By the time those are done, Illinois will be well into their 3rd consecutive BT championship season under Ron Zook.

DangerGoodson 07-21-2005 11:59 AM

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Was there ever a time when Illinois Football wasn't a joke?

Clarkmeister 07-21-2005 12:15 PM

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Was there ever a time when Illinois Football wasn't a joke?

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Big Ten Champs and BCS bowl just a few years ago.

Patrick del Poker Grande 07-21-2005 12:17 PM

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Was there ever a time when Illinois Football wasn't a joke?

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Big Ten Champs and BCS bowl just a few years ago.

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Yeah, that was pretty funny... in that 'I'm sad for the state of my conference and what the hell happened here' kind of way.

keats 07-21-2005 12:19 PM

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Who cares. If the NCAA does their job (unlikely) their program will be dealing with sanctions soon anyways. By the time those are done, Illinois will be well into their 3rd consecutive BT championship season under Ron Zook.

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Ron Zook couldnt even win with a talented Florida team...

jakethebake 07-21-2005 12:21 PM

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Illinois will be well into their 3rd consecutive BT championship season under Ron Zook.

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Or at least experiencing some entertaining off-field shenanigans.

Clarkmeister 07-21-2005 12:40 PM

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Was there ever a time when Illinois Football wasn't a joke?

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Big Ten Champs and BCS bowl just a few years ago.

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Yeah, that was pretty funny... in that 'I'm sad for the state of my conference and what the hell happened here' kind of way.

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As opposed to which conference? Other than the SEC, pretty much every conference has been pretty meh lately.

Clarkmeister 07-21-2005 12:41 PM

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Ron Zook couldnt even win with a talented Florida team...

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Well, getting talent on the team is a great first step if you are an Illinois fan.

thedecline19 07-21-2005 03:04 PM

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much better than last year. returned most starters, with a year of maturity they should be outstanding. The big hump to me is the Texas game, which I think will be decided by the buckeyes defense and the fact that its a home night game in columbus. We dont get many night games here, so the stadium will be electric. After that its Iowa thats the big task, as I believe Tressel will continue owning Michigan.

Mr. Zero 07-21-2005 07:52 PM

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I believe Tressel will continue owning Michigan.

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Knock on wood.

To answer OP's question, I think the key to this year's squad, as has been the case with each of Tressel's teams, is the offense.

At QB - Zwick looked great in the bowl game against OK St., but Smith was clearly the superior QB. Who knows what this whole McNair football camp thing is about, but he's already out for the season opener. Regardless, I think each will be significantly stronger than last year.

RB - Pittman is really the sole returning RB from last year's joke of a running game. The good news is that he was the most explosive, leading the team in yards per carry. I think he'll develop into a decent feature back. I know he's young too - maybe just a sophomore.

WR - USC fans (maybe even Michigan fans) might disagree, but I'll take Teddy Ginn and Santonio Holmes over any duo in the country. Let's just hope we can get the ball to them.

OL - 4 starters return. The line looked significantly more cohesive in the Michigan and bowl games. I think it will be a solid group.

Defense - Nine starters return. Best linebacking core in the country. I know very little about the D-line. Two veterans at safeties. Cornerback could be a bit suspect. Youbouty is solid, but I would't be surprised to see Ginn play both sides (he was a corner in high school). I've read in numerous spots that this unit will be among the nation's best; considering Tressel's track record and the personnel returning, I won't disagree.

K - I will miss Nugent. In his place is a guy who's in his 6th year (the rare two year red shirt). Who knows. His backup is a red-shirt freshman. I don't think either will be going 5-6 from 50+.

In short, I think the Bucks will be moderately to significantly better. Enough to challenge the usual suspects for the conference title, but not enough to be thinking National Champs.

P.S. Ann Arbor is a whore.

pokerdirty 07-21-2005 10:18 PM

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P.S. Ann Arbor is a whore.

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bugstud 07-22-2005 12:33 AM

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Ron Zook couldnt even win with a talented Florida team...

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Well, getting talent on the team is a great first step if you are an Illinois fan.

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johnnybeef 07-22-2005 03:08 AM

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Much better. Give Tressel a whole summer to prepare for you and you can just consider yourself done.

johnnybeef 07-22-2005 03:14 AM

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Who cares, they suck ass every year!
Go Blue!!

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Did Lloyd get himself a black quarterback yet? I saw he was looking for one after Troy and Vince decided to dominate him last year.

Vince Young 07-22-2005 03:46 PM

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Sources from Ohio are reporting that Troy Smith probably won't be eligible on September 10, and Todd Boeckman could start instead of Zwick.

SinCityGuy 07-23-2005 03:38 AM

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Was there ever a time when Illinois Football wasn't a joke?

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Tony Eason finished 8th in the Heisman voting in 1982.

SinCityGuy 07-23-2005 03:48 AM

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good enough to beat texas september 10th.

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No.

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Perhaps not, Vince. But you know what looms in October. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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shayneon 07-23-2005 11:58 AM

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Ted Ginn Jr. is awesome. If he gets the ball enough, he will win the Heisman.

Go Badgers!


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