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Madd 07-17-2005 05:54 PM

Biggest downswing?
 
Haven't seen a post about this so far, so I ask:
What was your biggest downswing in terms of buy-ins?
I start the bidding with a 48.
(This is, of course, only interesting if you're a winning player in the corresponding limit.)

pearljam 07-17-2005 05:55 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
60 buy ins at the 10+1 (im a winner at the 30+3 level)

Mr_J 07-17-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
"aven't seen a post about this so far,"

There have been plenty, just try the seach.

Yeh 48 is large, but other guys here have experienced that and worse.

To the guy above who said he lost 61 a the $11s, are you sure you're profitable??

Freudian 07-17-2005 05:58 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
40 buy-ins. Most of it was in one day. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

GtrHtr 07-17-2005 05:58 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
Why the difference do you think in your play at the 11s and the 33s?

Bluff Daddy 07-17-2005 06:00 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
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60 buy ins at the 10+1 (im a winner at the 30+3 level)

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if I lost $600 playing the 11's I would prob hang myself

The Don 07-17-2005 06:01 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
32 at the $11s was my most in a 1000 tourney sample
I have never had more than 20 in close to 1000 $22 tourneys

My reasoning:
More loose calls at the 11s = more showdowns = more variance

AbelM 07-17-2005 06:03 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
16 at the 215's.

I'm lucky [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

FieryJustice 07-17-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
I lost 30 buyins 2 days ago in 90 sngs in the $215s...I am not lucky. Biggest was 60ish over about 300 sngs.

pearljam 07-17-2005 06:07 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
yea, im sure. it makes my penus shrink to remember that run.

Costanza 07-17-2005 06:35 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
[ QUOTE ]
<font color="red">I didn't read the FAQ to see if this was discussed there or not first</font> so I ask:
What was your biggest downswing in terms of buy-ins?
I start the bidding with a 48.
(This is, of course, only interesting if you're a winning player in the corresponding limit.)

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

valenzuela 07-17-2005 06:44 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
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My reasoning:
More loose calls at the 11s = more showdowns = more variance

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Ure reasoning is wrong, the only way to have more variance with the same ROI and payout structure is with more first places.

astarck 07-17-2005 06:51 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
A couple 20-25x downswings at the 22s and 33s.

checksplay 07-17-2005 06:58 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
41 buy-ins at the 33's over 152 games. Suck.

gildwulf 07-17-2005 07:00 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
20 buy-ins at the 30...coincidentally at the same time as I tried to move up from the 20s to the 30s:) I guess that is relatively low but I've only been playing for like 4 months...lot of buy-ins to go...

The Don 07-17-2005 07:30 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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My reasoning:
More loose calls at the 11s = more showdowns = more variance

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Ure reasoning is wrong, the only way to have more variance with the same ROI and payout structure is with more first places.

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Think of it this way:
At the 22s you ahve more FE and you are more likely to slowly build your stack with no risk by having everyone fold to you whne you move in.

At the 11s you are more likely to take more showdowns versus loose callers and build a stack more quickly. There is also a much higher risk you will bust out however.

valenzuela 07-17-2005 07:35 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
I wont waste my energies on something that has been discussed 40000 times, search for irieguy posts instead.

Madd 07-17-2005 07:40 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
I have seen discussions about variance, I have participated in discussions about variance, I have run simulations etc.
But that is the theory. When it comes to the true, hard practice I'd like to know what the 2+2-pros experienced in the real life.
If you know a thread about it could you link it, please.

wulfheir 07-17-2005 07:58 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
16 over 86 games at the $11s

Sponger15SB 07-17-2005 08:12 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
20 buy ins at the $55s in one day.

Next morning at the $33s I won 10, then lost 30 in the afternoon.

That was fun.

johnnybeef 07-17-2005 08:29 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
50

gildwulf 07-17-2005 08:31 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
[ QUOTE ]
50

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You win.

The Yugoslavian 07-17-2005 08:44 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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50

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You win.

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Giga has had bigger downswings than this if my memory serves me right....although there is a chance that beefy had a bigger overlay in whatever buyin level he's talking about than Giga did (I doubt it though...beefy most likely would have been more affected by the bad variance anyway...plus I'm not sure his edge is bigger anyway).

Yugoslav

raptor517 07-17-2005 09:01 PM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
59 at the 215s. this was literally 2 days after going up 18k in a stretch of 200. my stomach hurt for about a week. then i quit again. holla

DonButtons 07-18-2005 12:22 AM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
70 buy ins down at 109s over 300-400 sngs, and right after a 50 buyin up-swing over a stretch of 87 sngs, then up again...but that sucked

raptor517 07-18-2005 01:59 AM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
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70 buy ins down at 109s over 300-400 sngs, and right after a 50 buyin up-swing over a stretch of 87 sngs, then up again...but that sucked

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damn you suck, i thought u were good.. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] holla

JayKon 07-18-2005 02:17 AM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
Wow! I feel much better after reading this thread. I only play 1-2 ($11's) a day during the week and lost 12 in a row before starting to win again. I was begining to think I really sucked and had just had a long lucky streak.

Ain't variance grand!

raptor517 07-18-2005 02:20 AM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Ain't variance grand!

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actually, no. it sucks huge nuts. id love to make 15-20 dollars per tournament no swings. holla

Karak567 07-18-2005 02:20 AM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
35

07-18-2005 02:27 AM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
I've played over 500 sngs on pp and had a bad swing while playing in the 10+1 and 20+2 games, probably for 50-60 games but all is back to normal.

JayKon 07-18-2005 02:30 AM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
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Ain't variance grand!

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actually, no. it sucks huge nuts. id love to make 15-20 dollars per tournament no swings. holla

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Yea, thats truth. I was trying to be polite.

bluefeet 07-18-2005 02:33 AM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 

officially?

zero.

recording OTM's are detrimental to my ego. of course trying to maintain an official '100ITM' brings about stresses of it's own. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

11t 07-18-2005 02:43 AM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
'100ITM' ?

bluefeet 07-18-2005 02:51 AM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 

100% ITM?.....'don't record OTMs'?, Bueller? Anyone?

Just funnin. I'm on zero sleep and actually have to work a j.o.b. in 4 hours [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

For the record: 11 OTM's. Don't keep 'buy-in drops' on my archaic spreadsheet.

Ixnert 07-18-2005 10:59 AM

Re: Biggest downswing?
 
32 buyins in 36 tournaments at the 30s late last week. (Two runs of 11 OTM and a 12, interrupted only by two thirds.) Somewhat softened by the +45 buyin run-up in about the same number of tournaments before that (though some of the +45 were 20s rather than 30s, so the up and downswings were close to the same).

As nice as the upswing was, I'd rather have just made a steady 15% per tournament...


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