Is 10 BB/hour sustainable?
 

My average over 100-150 hours of live play is approx. 10 BB/hr at 3/6. I was basically wondering if this is sustainable in the long run since most if not all the tables I play are filled with terrible weak passive players. Can I expect to make this rate over 20K hands, or will variance start rearing its ugly face? I haven't really gone on a lucky streak. A lot of the time I find my premium hands are being cracked, but I am patient. If I remain this way could I keep this up? It seems way too easy, so it cant be sustainable. What rate would be?

Re: Is 10 BB/hour sustainable?
 

10BB is impossible.

Not to mention live game rake/tip, your sample size is probably WAY too small to make any judgment of your real win rate.

You claim that you are "not getting lucky, and that your PPs have been broken". First off, you may be getting lucky with hitting tons of straight/flush draws and sets, hitting flops frequently with big offsuit broadways (AK, AQ), that you probably can't judge how often happen to any reasonable degree in a live game. Secondly, human psychology tends to remember the bad things that happen to them more than good -- thus, you may think your PPs are getting broken more often than they actually are.

Re: Is 10 BB/hour sustainable?
 

you get like 35hands an hour

in other words you are

a. full of [censored] on # of hours played
b. "forgetting" the days you lose, hrs you don't win
c. on a rediculously hot streak of cards
d. all of the above

my vote is on D

Re: Is 10 BB/hour sustainable?
 

Well I am not lying or misreporting...What can I expect to be a sustainable win rate? 2 BB/hour?

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Well I am not lying or misreporting...What can I expect to be a sustainable win rate? 2 BB/hour?

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2 per hour? that is still 6BB per 100.

Expect 2-3 BB/100 at best in the long run, thus about 1 BB/ hr.

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Considering how poor the competition is at live 3/6, I think 2.5-3 BB/HR should be sustainable.

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Considering how poor the competition is at live 3/6, I think 2.5-3 BB/HR should be sustainable.

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maybe for an excellent player 2.5-3BB/100 hands, but not 2.5-3bb/hr.

maybe you missed the point where this is live

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Well I am not lying or misreporting...What can I expect to be a sustainable win rate? 2 BB/hour?

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2 per hour? that is still 6BB per 100.

Expect 2-3 BB/100 at best in the long run, thus about 1 BB/ hr.

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People are beating party 0.5/1 for 6BB/100, and 3/6 live is considerably worse than party 0.5/1 in all aspects, from my experience. The rake percentage is about the same as well. If you have a good, fast dealer, you can win 1.5-2BB/hr.

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Well I am not lying or misreporting...What can I expect to be a sustainable win rate? 2 BB/hour?

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2 per hour? that is still 6BB per 100.

Expect 2-3 BB/100 at best in the long run, thus about 1 BB/ hr.

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People are beating party 0.5/1 for 6BB/100, and 3/6 live is considerably worse than party 0.5/1 in all aspects, from my experience. The rake percentage is about the same as well. If you have a good, fast dealer, you can win 1.5-2BB/hr.

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This is not true. Rake + tokes will run you about double what you pay at Party. And this assumes you are not ordering drinks and tipping the waitress too.

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I'm averaging +8.17BB/Hr this month and I'm already depressed about the inevitable comedown [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I'm averaging +8.17BB/Hr this month and I'm already depressed about the inevitable comedown [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Live in the present. Don't future think. The point of power is in the present.

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My average over 100-150 hours of live play is approx. 10 BB/hr at 3/6.

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Aside from the other comments about the absurdity of 10 BB/hr...

100-150 hours is a *VERY VERY VERY* broad range of times. The size of your error is one-third the size of the upper end of your estimate and half of your lower estimate. This results in the following estimates...

- Making 10 BB/hr for 100 hours is $6000.
- Making 10 BB/hr for 150 hours is $9000

There's no way this can be sensible even as a "rough" estimate because a $3000 error would be very easy to spot.

The only thing evident is that you keep terrible records.

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maybe its 10-15hrs, and he multiplied out to make it look more impressive

I didn't even do that math Aaron, but it def. makes my option "B" look more accurate

uh $3000 grand is a large amount of error in your record keeping

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I'm averaging +8.17BB/Hr this month and I'm already depressed about the inevitable comedown [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Live in the present. Don't future think. The point of power is in the present.

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Too late, the downswing is already setting it. I think this'll be the first time I've ever lost a 40BB buyin at a single table [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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i got a ton of laughs from all the threads. its great to see someone else get piled on. by the way im averaging about .11 bb per 100 and havent had a positive live play session yet without ordering drinks. is this sustainable?

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Of course it is, you just need to 8 table and make ~2.2bb/100. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: Is 10 BB/hour sustainable?
 

Thank you, Tony Robbins.

Personal Power!

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I'm averaging 12.7bb/hr this month..... Wondering how long I can defy gravity for though.