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gh9801 07-16-2005 07:13 PM

Who\'s the biggest winner?
 

Karak567 07-16-2005 07:17 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
ESPN and it's not even close.

Joseph Busti 07-16-2005 07:41 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
Im not entirely clear on why Hellmuth is even an option, will someone clarify.

Jordan Olsommer 07-16-2005 07:43 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
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Im not entirely clear on why Hellmuth is even an option, will someone clarify.

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Perhaps he mistyped the poll title and meant "whiner"?

edit: If so, I'll go with "poker in general". Man, whine whine whine.

gh9801 07-16-2005 07:46 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
Hellmuth commentated on the Cardplayer live feed for maybe 12 hrs - maybe that makes him a winner in terms of extra publicity, etc. And he did pee next to Matusow in the bathroom.

Jordan Olsommer 07-16-2005 08:01 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
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Hellmuth commentated on the Cardplayer live feed for maybe 12 hrs - maybe that makes him a winner in terms of extra publicity, etc. And he did pee next to Matusow in the bathroom.

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And how - throw as many chairs/tantrums as you want, that was some great and dedicated reporting by him and his "co-anchors". It's probably been said hundreds of times in the past twenty-four hours, but my hat's off to cardplayer - that was a fantastic broadcast.

einbert 07-16-2005 08:21 PM

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And how - throw as many chairs/tantrums as you want, that was some great and dedicated reporting by him and his "co-anchors". It's probably been said hundreds of times in the past twenty-four hours, but my hat's off to cardplayer - that was a fantastic broadcast.

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Absolutely.

I like Hellmuth now more than I ever have before.

He needs to become a poker commentator, or something. The guy is amazing to listen to, and extremely entertaining.

Hamish McBagpipe 07-16-2005 08:29 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
Poker in general, NL Hold 'Em in Australia specifically, if the Aussie media covers him as much as they might.

TStoneMBD 07-16-2005 09:06 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
agreed.

Smarty 07-16-2005 09:14 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
Because many people who didn't like Hellmuth or were ambivalent about him, saw how he acts away from the table and realized that he is a genuinely nice/funny/entertaining guy.

TStoneMBD 07-16-2005 09:18 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
no hes still an idiot and so are you. he just happens to make a very good commentator.

Timer 07-16-2005 09:49 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
The IRS, and it isn't even close.

Rosie5 07-16-2005 09:58 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
Harry potter, and it's not even close

DarthIgnurnt 07-16-2005 09:59 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
Outback Steakhouse.

And skinhead bands.

OrangeCat 07-16-2005 10:57 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
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ESPN and it's not even close.

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ismisus 07-16-2005 11:39 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
my cat and its not even close.

seriously, whats up with these not even close remarks. Its obviusly close. ESPN, Harrahs, IRS, The guy who won...its all close.

Jordan Olsommer 07-16-2005 11:47 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
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my cat and its not even close.

seriously, whats up with these not even close remarks. Its obviusly close. ESPN, Harrahs, IRS, The guy who won...its all close.

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I believe it's a reference to Ed Miller's post about the relative profitability of online games vs. B&M games where he said "online, and it's not even close". Sort of like how people will close their post with a Mason-esque "Do you see why?"

I'll let others elaborate.

RacersEdge 07-16-2005 11:49 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
I didn't realize Hellmuth was broadcasting either. What were the commentaries like if the hole cards were not known?

Navers 07-16-2005 11:55 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
can please someone tell me where to find the hellmuth broadcast?

vox 07-17-2005 01:02 AM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
http://www.cardplayer.com/imgGal/200...715_93_015.jpg


"I'm gonna ask you a simple question and I want you to listen to me: who's the big winner here tonight at the casino? Huh? Mikey, that's who. Mikey's the big winner! Mikey wins."
- swingers

Hellmuth is the John Madden of poker commentary. I mean that in a good way. If I was starting a new line of poker TV, especially live b'casts, he'd be on the top of my list.

smb394 07-17-2005 01:10 AM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
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The IRS, and it isn't even close.

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I think we have our winner.

Smoothcall 07-17-2005 01:32 AM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
How could hellmuth be the biggest winner?

Rick Nebiolo 07-17-2005 05:24 AM

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I voted Hachem but after reading the thread if I got to vote again it would be for Hellmuth. Hachem will be another great champ but Hellmuth really impressed me with his commentary.

~ Rick

tagtastic 07-17-2005 05:57 AM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
Hellmuth is a self-obssessed guy who sold his soul to anyone and everyone who was buying. However, he does make an interesting commentator (certainly better than the WPT crap that goes on week after week), but Hellmuth is a less likeable guy (in the long term) than anyone else who appeared on last night's broadcast of the final table of the WSOP. Decent player, great reader, but entirely self-indulged and it showed through during his constant inturruptions (despite whoever he was commentating with) and other self-promoting/indulgent remarks. The other players who were featured were all very humble, the difference was night and day. All this said, if I was starting a poker tour, I'd be recruiting Hellmuth to do commentary.

gh9801 07-17-2005 06:28 AM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
When I created this survey, I put Hellmuth as a option half-jokingly...

Whatever, I'm surprised.

fyodor 07-17-2005 10:25 AM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
I got tired of listening to Hellmuth about 5 minutes into the "pro" commentary track on the 'Rounders' DVD. Friday night he sounded much the same. Talking over his partner constantly. Belabouring points. Sucking up to his favourites. Badmouthing the players he didn't like and finding the worst of their play.

He comes off as a whining, egotistical jerk.

He still sounded better than Negraneu though.

Anyhow I will predict that if he ever made a career in poker broadcasting all you lovers would tire of him pretty quick.

touchfaith 07-17-2005 11:36 AM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
Thus far...I will have to vote for myself.

Just about every table I have joined this weekend has had 2-3 donks on it from Australia that I have no records on. Right now on my UB table, there are no fewer then 3.

New donks = me happy = I win

07-17-2005 12:49 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
I have to agree that, as a grinder, I'm benefitting. Not sure if the rush of new players are all from down under [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img], but I'm finding a new school of fish on just about every online site. Hope this keeps up for all of us.

Uppercut 07-17-2005 01:09 PM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
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When I created this survey, I put Hellmuth as a option half-jokingly...

Whatever, I'm surprised.

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Did anyone keep track of how many times Phil mentioned that he had 9 bracelets during his broadcast? I'm guessing at least 50. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

NCAces 07-18-2005 12:30 AM

Re: Who\'s the biggest winner?
 
Easy:

"Dannenmann immediately made good on his promise to split his winnings with friend Jerry Ditzel of Severna Park, who put up half of Dannenmann's $10,000 buy-in for the poker tournament."

$5,000 invested
$2,225,000 returned

Priceless

NCAces


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