An 11r Rebuy Hand
 

The 8 seat in this hand has 70k. He took a bad beat to have his stack reduced to about 40k 5 hands before. Blinds 4/8k. He goes all in 4 hands in a row right after the beat. Then has his BB folded to him. 6th hand ABB he's in the SB, I'm in the BB with 100k after posting.

Folded to him. He pushes.

Your move?

Re: An 11r Rebuy Hand
 

calling with PPs 77+, KQs+, A10o+

or is that too weak?

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Oh, I have QJs.

Nick

Re: An 11r Rebuy Hand
 

How many left in the tournament? Are we close to FT or still trying to accumulate?

If there are 20+, I call and race his Ax/Kx.

Ahh hell, I probably call this no matter what - regardless of what I say I'd do hypothetically.

He had AA/KK, correct?

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So he's pushed 4 of the last 5 hands, and now pushes when folded to in his SB? Sounds like any two. Knowing your style (gunning for #1) I think this is pretty much an instacall with QJs.

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I don't see why this isn't an easy call.

I have no reason yet to believe he's being selective about his hand in any way. However, he's pushing AA and 79 here alike, so if you ran into a monster thats just **** luck.

Kings

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by why risk 2/3 of ur stack when you can easily find a better spot to accumulate. he's already got 100K and right now he's got queen high. thats an ugly way to look at it, but QJs is a dog to K-rag offsuit, and a flip with pocket pairs. i just dont think its worth it at this point.

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QJo is 58% against a random hand
KQo is 61% against a random hand
A7o is 59% against a random hand

I thought the differences between these hands would be more..

I like your chances to dominate if you get his chips

Regards,
Woodguy

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The 8 seat in this hand has 70k. He took a bad beat to have his stack reduced to about 40k 5 hands before. Blinds 4/8k. He goes all in 4 hands in a row right after the beat. Then has his BB folded to him. 6th hand ABB he's in the SB, I'm in the BB with 100k after posting.

Folded to him. He pushes.

Your move?

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being directly to his left affords you the best spot at the table. While this is likely +ev, I think that you can fold here and still stack him when you pick up something slightly better in the next few hands.

It's close, though and I don't mind calling there.

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being directly to his left affords you the best spot at the table. While this is likely +ev, I think that you can fold here and still stack him when you pick up something slightly better in the next few hands.

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If he's going to continue pushing at this pace, doesn't it seem pretty likely that somebody else is going to get him first if you wait a few hands? And if he doesn't keep pushing at this pace, then it's a lost opportunity anyhow.

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being directly to his left affords you the best spot at the table. While this is likely +ev, I think that you can fold here and still stack him when you pick up something slightly better in the next few hands.

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If he's going to continue pushing at this pace, doesn't it seem pretty likely that somebody else is going to get him first if you wait a few hands? And if he doesn't keep pushing at this pace, then it's a lost opportunity anyhow.

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yeah, i thought about that. that's why i think it's close. If we were heads up, i think that this is an easy fold. But you want to get his money first. If he wasn't on his left, I think that this would be an easy call, but we are going to have first shot every time he does this, so I think it gets pretty close. Remember, too, that the next few hands he will be in LP, and i'm sure that people will be scared to play marginal hands with the fear of him pushing again, so it's likely to get folded to him until he gets caught.


meh, i don't know, flip a coin.

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what are the antes? 500 or 1k?

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by why risk 2/3 of ur stack when you can easily find a better spot to accumulate. he's already got 100K and right now he's got queen high. thats an ugly way to look at it, but QJs is a dog to K-rag offsuit, and a flip with pocket pairs. i just dont think its worth it at this point.

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I think holding QJs vs a maniac raiser is among the best spots to accumulate that we're going to find. If it were QJo I would lean towards holding out to bust him with a better hand, but QJs just fares so well vs random cards and the crazy range that he's probably pushing.

I'm all ready to have a 170k stack and mow everyone over here. I don't really think I'm gonna get many accumulation spots with this guy around, and I may not get another good shot at him.

Kings

Re: An 11r Rebuy Hand
 

Calling with 22+, J7+, Q2+, K2+, A2+.

Just above average hands.

Brad

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The 8 seat in this hand has 70k. He took a bad beat to have his stack reduced to about 40k 5 hands before. Blinds 4/8k. He goes all in 4 hands in a row right after the beat. Then has his BB folded to him. 6th hand ABB he's in the SB, I'm in the BB with 100k after posting.

Folded to him. He pushes.

Your move?

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being directly to his left affords you the best spot at the table. While this is likely +ev, I think that you can fold here and still stack him when you pick up something slightly better in the next few hands.

It's close, though and I don't mind calling there.

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That's a good point Soss. Who is to say that you can't find a better spot to take his chips?

Now that I read that you had QJ though, I'm calling here I think. He's shown too many maniacal tendencies to fold this in my opinion.

Brad

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Calling with 22+, J7+, Q2+, K2+, A2+.

Just above average hands.

Brad

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Q2? really?

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Calling with 22+, J7+, Q2+, K2+, A2+.

Just above average hands.

Brad

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I pretty much agree with this, although I'd make it J8s+, Q6s+...throw in T9 and T8s as well.

The sb isnt playing like a maniac, he's playing like he has to when his stack is critically low (with antes, he had enough a stack to make it around the table twice). Looks like he's pushing with any two...you dont even have to think here.

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Calling with 22+, J7+, Q2+, K2+, A2+.

Just above average hands.

Brad

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Q2? really?

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Heads up against a guy pushing almost any two? Ya, I think so. It's close, but I really don't see why Queen high wouldn't be beating a lot of the hands that he's pushing with. It's better than a random hand right?

Brad

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It's better than a random hand right?


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No.

Q7o is almost exactly 50% against a random hand.

Q2 is 47.3% against a random hand.

Regards,
Woodguy

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Thanks, at work so didn't have my poker calculator with me. So, uh, not Q2 then. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Brad

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It's better than a random hand right?


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No.

Q7o is almost exactly 50% against a random hand.

Q2 is 47.3% against a random hand.

Regards,
Woodguy

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Isn't there enough dead money in blinds and antes to make this a call anyway?

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While Q2o is borderline, QJs is not. There are two factors that we need to consider here. The first is how well our hand is going to sit. We're 58% against random. This is +EV especially when considering the pot from blinds and ante's. The second fact we need to consider is that this guy needs to be slowed down. It's a lot harder to push any hand when you know you're going to be called. Add the fact that we are still alive if we lose and this is an easy call. It's time to look this guy up.