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ihaveapigyo 07-14-2005 11:34 AM

danny negreanu\'s heart beat rate under pressure situations
 
i was watching poker on TV on fox sports net, where danny negreanu made the final table. it was amazing to watch that under the most stressful situations, he was just about as calm as when he is relaxed.

his heart beat rate when he's relaxed is 74, the only time he was uncomfortable was when he was all-in. even then though, it was only about 100. phil gordon's heart beat rate under pressure situations was 160.

i wish i could learn to be as calm at the table as danny boy is [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

NobodysFreak 07-14-2005 11:45 AM

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I read an article by Daniel a few months ago in which he said something along the lines of not really being excited about most tournament play unless the buy-in was excessively high. Given that he won 4.5 million in tournies last year alone, I could see him remaining rather calm given that the money doesn't really mean all that much to him.
Of couse he could just have nerves of steel, but I think his financial comfort zone might have something to do with it.

popniklas 07-14-2005 12:23 PM

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You have a point... but Gordon is pretty rich too, no?

ihaveapigyo 07-14-2005 12:51 PM

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i think gordon is rich... but even though danny is very rich, he was playing against some very tough competition... ted forrest, clonie gowen...

i get really nervous in stressful situations when playing poka even with my closest buddies, LOL

TaoTe 07-14-2005 01:15 PM

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Annie Duke commented that Gordon needed to do some cardio. I know very little about anatomy but his higher heart rate could have been because he was nervous or because of an unhealthy lifestyle. He may have been drinking a lot of coffee, too. They had been playing since morning. Also, Daniel has been on television a lot more than Gordon, so he has that going for him.

DarkForceRising 07-14-2005 01:47 PM

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I know this sounds simplistic but I'll bet a disciplined deep breathing routine would help a lot of people accomplish this.

I'm working on it but the two packs of Camels a day is holding me back. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Thank God for Corona! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Then, again, I guess 4-tabling $2 $4 isn't quite the same thing...

bkholdem 07-14-2005 03:48 PM

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I think Gordon has a boatload of money compared to Daniel if that makes a difference. I think I know why Dainel's heart rate is well controlled but you can draw your own conclusions.

zuluking 07-14-2005 04:52 PM

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My resting heart rate is 56, but I workout 6 days a week.

scdavis0 07-14-2005 04:58 PM

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Man that's awesome. I'm so glad you shared that with everybody.

Stuey 07-14-2005 05:41 PM

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It was not a stressful situation. The point when they showed his heart rate he was acting. He knew he had to fold his hand. He was acting so the other players would think he was making a big laydown so they don't bully him off hands in the future.

Later in the game his heart rate went up when he was not sure of his strength during the play of the hand. He lost that hand if I remember correctly.

So his heart rate only goes up when he has a decision to make when the choice is clear he has no reason to stress.

galahad_187 07-14-2005 09:05 PM

Re: danny negreanu\'s heart beat rate under pressure situations
 
i workout 6 days a week but my heartrate sucks. But im a total gimp and can't do any good cardio =P.

and yes gordan has a shitload more money than danny im sure. He sold his internet company for what? 95 million or something?

EricW 07-14-2005 10:26 PM

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I think this is quite interesting because in my psych classes, I've read that there have been studies showing that con artists, sociopaths and others who use the art of deception have low heart beat rate and low reaction to stress. I guess there could be some genetic link to how good of a poker player by how well you respond to stressful situtations.

xniNja 07-15-2005 06:12 AM

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I think Gordon has a boatload of money compared to Daniel if that makes a difference. I think I know why Dainel's heart rate is well controlled but you can draw your own conclusions.

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Are you implying what everyone thinks you are- that TILT is not a mere fictional fantasy but based on actual events?! Sure if you know what cards your opponent has- or what cards are coming you'd be pretty calm.

Side note- Negreanu is known for "staking" many players into the WSOP event/s (I heard like ~15-20)... it's not illegal- he could technically be investing in their success... but I still think it's a questionable tactic.

zuluking 07-15-2005 10:30 AM

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Man that's awesome. I'm so glad you shared that with everybody.

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No problem.

DarkForceRising 07-15-2005 11:55 AM

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Man that's awesome. I'm so glad you shared that with everybody.

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No problem.

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I hope nobody actually thinks that they are going to get a rise out of someone with a heart rate that good. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

07-19-2005 06:01 PM

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I could see him remaining rather calm given that the money doesn't really mean all that much to him.
Of couse he could just have nerves of steel, but I think his financial comfort zone might have something to do with it.

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Well, I can hear the blood pounding in my ears on an all-in in little $10 buy-ins in home games. The money doesn't matter in the least. It's the game, the desire to have made the right choice. When I played sports (volleyball) I'd go back for a serve and tell myself "be aggressive" and I could channel that nervousness into a play.

In poker it's particular hard as there's no physical outlet.


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