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Can somebody confirm that Raymer threatened to kill a guy after he asked Raymer's wife about their daughter, as per Gutshot's reporting?

Did it put him on tilt?

Thanks!

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Yes he did, I would too, and no it didn't.

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It is pretty shitty bringing up some guys family in an open forum, just because he is poker player. Try to exhibit some amount of class.

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you best not be talking about me. I'm just trying to figure out whats going on...

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you best not be talking about me. I'm just trying to figure out whats going on...

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He best not? Are you gonna internet flame him omg zerg rush!!!!

He's obviously talking about the guy bringing up Raymer's daughter at the WSOP.

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Raymer: What's your problem, Railman?
Railman: You're everyone's problem. That's because every time you go to the rail, you're unsafe. I don't like you because you're dangerous.
Raymer: That's right! Rail... man. I am dangerous.

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I'm still trying to figure out how inquiring about someone's daughter is grounds for a death threat.

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I'm still trying to figure out how inquiring about someone's daughter is grounds for a death threat.

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wait till you have a daughter and see what happens if a stranger approaches you and starts asking questions about her. A death threat is about as mild a response as you can expect.

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you best not be talking about me. I'm just trying to figure out whats going on...

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He best not? Are you gonna internet flame him omg zerg rush!!!!

He's obviously talking about the guy bringing up Raymer's daughter at the WSOP.

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It is pretty shitty bringing up some guys family in an open forum,

Obviously, he's not. Unless the rail at the WSOP is an "open forum"

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Lisa: "Don't you think you're overreacting?"
Homer: "Don't you think you're underreacting?"
Lisa: "This conversation is over."
Homer: "This conversation is under!"
Lisa: "Goodbye."
Homer: "Badbye!" (Edit)

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Pro atheletes get heckled all the time. Greg needs to deal with it. Ignoring the retards and not encouraging more of them to take shots at you is the best bet. If his family is genunily unsafe, call security.

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wait till you have a daughter and see what happens if a stranger approaches you and starts asking questions about her. A death threat is about as mild a response as you can expect.

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So does this apply to parents only, or can we conclude from this that all those elderly people with "Ask Me About My Grandkids" t-shirts are just looking to pick a fight?

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Raymer just threatens the guy? Jeez.

He's sitting on about 5 million bucks. If he really loved his daughter he'd peel off a couple c-notes and pay someone to kneecap the guy.

Maybe Raymer is a lightweight after all.

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I think this has already been tried in the sports world....can't seem to place it....didn't end up well....

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Nancy Kerrigan/Tonya Harding

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what exactly did the stranger say to Raymer's wife?

was it something threatening?

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I'm still trying to figure out how inquiring about someone's daughter is grounds for a death threat.

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He has alredy been the victim of an attempted robery involving a gun. He has money and celebrity status. There are a lot of desperate people in the poker world.

I don't blame him one bit for threatening the guy.

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From Gutshot:

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Family Guy

A guy from the crowd was asking Raymer's wife about his daughter... Mrs Raymer informed the Fossilman who got a tad irrate and threatened to kill the man if he went near his family! It took a good few minutes for him to compose himself and get back to the game. (allegedly)


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what exactly did the stranger say to Raymer's wife?

was it something threatening?

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Gee, why would that be relevant?

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what exactly did the stranger say to Raymer's wife?

was it something threatening?

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Gee, why would that be relevant?

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In case he said: "If Fossilman wins, I'm gonna kidnap and kill your daughter", I'd say it's pretty relevant, as opposed to: "Hi Ms Raymer, good day to you and good luck to Mr. Raymer, and I hope your daughter is doing well too."

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From Gutshot:

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4:19pm
Family Guy

A guy from the crowd was asking Raymer's wife about his daughter... Mrs Raymer informed the Fossilman who got a tad irrate and threatened to kill the man if he went near his family! It took a good few minutes for him to compose himself and get back to the game. (allegedly)


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Haha, I love stories like this. Absolutely no clue what was said. But, I hardly doubt it was something nice considering Greg's reaction. He seems like an even keel guy to me. Assuming the railbird was being an ass, I don't blame Greg one bit.

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From Gutshot:

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4:19pm
Family Guy

A guy from the crowd was asking Raymer's wife about his daughter... Mrs Raymer informed the Fossilman who got a tad irrate and threatened to kill the man if he went near his family! It took a good few minutes for him to compose himself and get back to the game. (allegedly)


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So this is third-hand information now?

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what exactly did the stranger say to Raymer's wife?

was it something threatening?

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Gee, why would that be relevant?

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In case he said: "If Fossilman wins, I'm gonna kidnap and kill your daughter", I'd say it's pretty relevant, as opposed to: "Hi Ms Raymer, good day to you and good luck to Mr. Raymer, and I hope your daughter is doing well too."

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Good point.
But isn't it so much more fun to make judgements without the facts? Defend the player and bash the railbird. Or bash the player and defend the railbird. Facts? Who needs them?

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"So does this apply to parents only, or can we conclude from this that all those elderly people with "Ask Me About My Grandkids" t-shirts are just looking to pick a fight? "

Hi-LARIOUS bro. Mad Props.

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My wife was sitting in the press area, where only press and staff are allowed. She got special dispensation from the staff to be there. Some guy comes in who is not allowed, sits next to her, and starts asking her all about our daughter. He wants to know where she is, who's watching her now, what she looks like, and my wife is totally freaking out from his questions and attitude. She asks to have him removed, and tells me what was going on. I look at him on the rail a minute later, and he's pointing at her, pointing at me, talking to people in the crowd, and has a psycho-mad look on his face.

I stand up and tell him to watch himself. He has an even angrier look on his facee, and yells out that he was just asking about my daughter. My immediate reaction, based upon his demeanor and attitude is that he really is a threat. I told him that if he messed with my daugher or family, I would kill him. I shouted all this across a 20 foot gap, and yes, everyone could here it, and it happened.

And I wasn't lying. If anybody messes with my family, I'm going to kill them as certainly as I possibly can.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

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Some guy comes in who is not allowed, sits next to her, and starts asking her all about our daughter. He wants to know where she is, who's watching her now, what she looks like, and my wife is totally freaking out from his questions and attitude. She asks to have him removed, and tells me what was going on. I look at him on the rail a minute later, and he's pointing at her, pointing at me, talking to people in the crowd, and has a psycho-mad look on his face.

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I don't blame you one bit. There are more than a few weirdos and people trying to take advantage of others good fortune out there, especially in Vegas.

Thanks for the details, Raymer.

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We obviously don't know what was said, but if ask people you don't know about their family members that you've never met, you're going to get reactions like this even if you ask in a polite, non-threatening way.

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thanks for clearing it up. i certainly don't blame you, as i would do the same thing in your position.

good luck today, hope to see you at the final table with ivey, matasow and juanda.

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Thank you.

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that IS weird... why would a guy enter a restricted area and be asking about Greg's daughter?

I take it Vegas security is on this guy.

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As a father, I would have done exactly the same thing.

Good luck!

Brian

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My wife was sitting in the press area, where only press and staff are allowed. She got special dispensation from the staff to be there. Some guy comes in who is not allowed, sits next to her, and starts asking her all about our daughter. He wants to know where she is, who's watching her now, what she looks like, and my wife is totally freaking out from his questions and attitude. She asks to have him removed, and tells me what was going on. I look at him on the rail a minute later, and he's pointing at her, pointing at me, talking to people in the crowd, and has a psycho-mad look on his face.

I stand up and tell him to watch himself. He has an even angrier look on his facee, and yells out that he was just asking about my daughter. My immediate reaction, based upon his demeanor and attitude is that he really is a threat. I told him that if he messed with my daugher or family, I would kill him. I shouted all this across a 20 foot gap, and yes, everyone could here it, and it happened.

And I wasn't lying. If anybody messes with my family, I'm going to kill them as certainly as I possibly can.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)




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sounded like you responded like a lot of fathers/husbands would have


good luck - lets see another final table

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Greg,

Sorry for such an inappropriate incident. You do not deserve such pain, regardless of your celebrity status. I have a young daughter (13), and if someone was to imply such a dangerous situation as this guy did, I would have probably done more than you did. Including getting in the guys grill and taking him to task then and there, regardless of the consequences within the tournament.

Take care of your family as it sounds you are. Oh, and win the damn thing. It would be great for the game, and for your pocket as well.

Good luck sir.

Michael Byers

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Greg, Good for you. I wish you would have had security grab the guy and get his name.

Now, go kick-ass in the tournament. We are all rooting for you.

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Screw that joker, you have a torney to win.

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Well that settles that. Sounds like about what I thought.

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Sounds like Matusow hired some degenerate to put Greg on tilt.

Don't bite - we're rootin for ya Raymer.

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I shouted all this across a 20 foot gap, and yes, everyone could here it, and it happened.

And I wasn't lying. If anybody messes with my family, I'm going to kill them as certainly as I possibly can.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

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Screw that joker, you have a torney to win.

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Winning WSOP is a big deal. But not as big of a deal as protecting your family. Greg was 100% in the right what he did and I wouldn't've blamed him if he punched the guy out - no court is convicting him after some scumbag acts like he did.

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

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Thanks for clearing that up, and I don't blame you one bit either. In fact, I think you should've kicked the guy's ass right then and there - if nothing else, it probably would have helped to strengthen your table image even further.