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StableHand 07-10-2005 06:44 PM

47BB 2/4
 
PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (14 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (34 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 47 BB

UTG+2 said he had the nutstraight. obviously he was in a better position to fold than I was, caught between the two raisers. do you call the bets on the river, even though you KNOW at least one of them has the boat? if you think it's not correct to call on the river, which is worse, the first or second call? they both had K9

drdre2001mm 07-10-2005 06:56 PM

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I play this hand the same way you did. If any of the calls are wrong its the 1st there is no way your folding for 2 more bets in this enormous pot when you already put in 2.

bambi 07-10-2005 07:29 PM

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I fold pre flop.

Paxosmotic 07-10-2005 07:41 PM

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I fold pre flop.

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Just noticed that, cold calling with JTs, I don't know about all that.

brettbrettr 07-10-2005 07:42 PM

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I fold pre flop.

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The call is fine.

ropey 07-10-2005 07:42 PM

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do you call the bets on the river, even though you KNOW at least one of them has the boat?

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If you KNOW, it would pretty foolish to call wouldn't it?

Flop: Would you consider capping the flop yourself for value?

-ropey

Paxosmotic 07-10-2005 07:46 PM

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I fold pre flop.

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The call is fine.

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How on earth are you calling two cold with JTs?

Vote4Pedro 07-10-2005 07:50 PM

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if you call its gonna be atleast 4handed, if the blinds come along it makes for perfect conditions for a hand like JTs

brettbrettr 07-10-2005 08:07 PM

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I fold pre flop.

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The call is fine.

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How on earth are you calling two cold with JTs?

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Cuz its going to be a big multiway pot and your hand plays well in a big multiway pot.

Bodhi 07-10-2005 08:14 PM

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Oh yeah, fold this preflop. Anyway, there's no way you can reasonably fold postflop.

StableHand 07-10-2005 08:30 PM

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do you call the bets on the river, even though you KNOW at least one of them has the boat?

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If you KNOW, it would pretty foolish to call wouldn't it?

Flop: Would you consider capping the flop yourself for value?

-ropey

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precisely what ate me at the time. and why i posted. i've only read about people laying down big hands in huge pots.

i did consider 3-beting the flop first time it came around to me, i thought (without having the time or presence to do the maths) that it was already a very big pot, going for overcalls, trying to catch the card cheaply. SB leading out i figgered a weak Q or 9.

on the pf-call:
i did have to stop a sec. to think about the cold-call, figgered to have at least 4 to see the flop for a pot at ~10SB

i didn't get the right code, but the pot is:
13SB
14BB
34BB
47BB

StableHand 07-10-2005 08:35 PM

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Oh yeah, fold this preflop.

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what strikes me as odd is the BBs preflop fold.

oreogod 07-10-2005 10:03 PM

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Fold preflop if u hate money.

On the flop, 3-bet for possible value and to maybe get a free card on the turn (but with a ton of callers, u might have a value bet on the turn), obviously with this turn...go insane. Suck river.

Its probably going to get capped so you're getting about 11:1. Man it'd be tough...you are definitly/most likely beat...you probably have to call, but I doubt u are good even 8 percent of the time. Who knows. Probably call...anyone who says fold is probably going to get flamed.

JacksonTens 07-10-2005 11:26 PM

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I think the CC PFlop is fine. The turn yeah maybe 3-bet, but I cant see why you didn't raise the turn, the pot was huge, as for the river call for two more, it hurts but I'd do it unless youre SURE sure.

JT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

ArturiusX 07-10-2005 11:39 PM

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The cold call is fine preflop.

Guys, stop playing so tight!

StableHand 07-10-2005 11:47 PM

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I cant see why you didn't raise the turn,
JT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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Turn: (14 BB) K (5 players)
SB bets, UTG+2 raises, MP2 calls, Hero 3-bets ,

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