tourney win, too much tip?
 

i played my first live tournament today at a club. $30 buy in and $20 unlimited rebuys. 15 players i got first for $541. i gave the dealer $20 is that too much? people are telling me i should have given $5 or something.

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i gave the dealer $20 is that too much? people are telling me i should have given $5 or something.

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No its not too much. I probably would have given $30-$40 but I usually tip well. $5 is ridiculous IMO.

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I'd say anywhere between 3-5% of your payout isn't asking too much at all. $5 for a $541 payout is just a cheap-ass move.

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Holy cow, they are telling you that on a $540 win you should give FIVE BUCKS? That's way too LOW! Have a heart already and give as follows...

10% for extremely small tournaments / wins
5% for bigger ones
3% for very large wins

Anyone who doesn't follow this will be immediately kicked in the nuts by me. (unless they tip MORE)

al

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i won a tournament that paid about $975.. - the buy-in was $100 or so - stupid me gave $75 for the dealers - never again! from now on it's a red chip max - whether it's a $500 win or a $5000 win, all ima tip is $5 bucks, if they don't like it - i'll take it back and buy a big mac extra value meal! [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

i'm the one risking my money, i'm the one using my time.. tipping is just a crock when it comes to gambling
(btw i usually overtip waiters, waitresses and cocktail waitresses... but dealers? gimme a break, i don't decide how the system works - how their wages are fueled by patrons of the casinos.. why should I pay? )

here's my dealer tipping schedule - -

tourneys:
$5 if i finish 1st place only.. all others $0

ring games:
$1 every 3 hands won, regardless of pot size

(i will tip $1 on the third hand won on their down, and $1 max tip per down per dealer)

{{{this $1 usually serves as a 'stop cursing me' - i'm not cheap i just don't feel you did much to deserve this - i think you should tip me $1 for sitting in the 10 seat next to your fat smelly as$]]]

no tips to the floor or brushes/chip runners


anyone with me here? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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This kind of post makes me want to not welcome you next time we have a 2+2 jambouree. The 2+2ers that participated last time at the MGM were terrific and very generous with their tips (of which I got NONE of it, I was a player not a dealer). Excessive tipping isn't necessary, but you are a scumbag with your pathetic "tip schedule." Please do keep your cheap ass online where the rest of the scum stiffs belong.

al

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(i will tip $1 on the third hand won on their down, and $1 max tip per down per dealer)


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Wow, so at 30 hands/hr and 15/dealer on average, you are saying you must win 20% of the hands before you tip. You sir, are cheap. No one should win 20% of the hands. On average, 10% would be the normal amount of wins in a 10 handed game of players with equal skill.

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3%....what if you win the WSOP Main event??? Thats one hell of a tip [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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If you win the main event, you SHOULD be giving one hell of a tip!

al

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If you win the main event, you SHOULD be giving one hell of a tip!



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If you win the main event, you SHOULD be giving one hell of a tip!

al

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$225,000?

No effing way would I tip that. I don't care how much I won. They are running 200 tables, so say 300 dealers... and much less after the first 3 days. I'm not tipping $750 per dealer just from me.

My fiscally conservative ass might tip $10k. They are already raking the prize pool to "tip" the dealers as far as I'm understanding it anyways, so I'd be much more likely to tip less.

As for the guy tipping $1 per 3 hands... that's kind of cheap, but if I really was a B&M pro, I'd definitely consider tipping much less then I do currently.

Of course, I tipped $100 at least the night of the donkfest at MGM, so give me a few drinks and who really knows.

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but dealers? gimme a break, i don't decide how the system works - how their wages are fueled by patrons of the casinos.. why should I pay? )

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I hope you realize that by going to a casino you are inherently agreeing with how their pay system works. I don't think you can be selective in how you tip. If you're going to tip a waiter/waitress/bartender for their service you should be doing the same for a dealer. Don't you think that the dealer is providing you with a service and should be getting paid for it?

Also, if you don't suck at poker, tipping $1 a pot, every pot you win (with the obvious exception of blind steals, chops, etc.) should not be a big deal.

I currently work in a field that requires tipping. It has to be done, or things don't get done. Whether you like it or not the better tippers will receive better service. There is very little a dealer can do to help you just because you are a good tipper.

As an example: Playing 6/12 heads up at showdown. With a 4 straight on the board, and no flush out there we turn over our hands. He turns over QJ for a J high straight. I turn over my J but leave the other card down. At this point I was playing for 10 hours, about to leave I was pretty tired. Anyway the dealer says "you might want to turn your other card over" in a nice way. I had watched this same dealer muck 2 other players cards after they did this during my session.

Sometimes it pays to be generous. There's more to life than saving $1 every pot you win.

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No way was it too much. Whoever said you should have tipped $5 is a cheap ass mofo. I probobly would have gone more but I dont think you were out of line.

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He turns over QJ for a J high straight.

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A bit tough to do I would say!

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$5 no matter the win ? you cheap ass good for nothing sum abitch.
10% kids that your tip
If you place 5th 10%
place third 10 %
If you can't tip 10%, even if it means 100k you suck.

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You already are. 3% of the prize pool is withheld for staff. I actually like a system like this better.

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you are a scumbag with your pathetic "tip schedule." Please do keep your cheap ass online where the rest of the scum stiffs belong.

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hey al, you know i was half kidding there.. society enforces all those BS rules that makes you feel guilty if you don't tip - thus I do tip, and I tip dealers as you would approve.. It is a shame though

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You already are. 3% of the prize pool is withheld for staff. I actually like a system like this better.

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oh hell yeah lasvegasadvisor.com shows a chart of the payoffs of the different tourneys around town - AND suprisningly - it looks like an average of 20% of the prizepool is ALREADY withheld for the staff... based on this silent THEFT of our loot before we even win back our risked buy-ins... OMG, tipping in addition to this larceny is a travesty... [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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He turns over QJ for a J high straight.

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A bit tough to do I would say!

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D'oh! I shouldn't post drunk @ 07/10/05 02:21 AM.

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That "staff" witholding is BS...most of that goes to the greedy floors and the house...not the dealers...

On a side note, why do these posts continually show up? Over and over again, people come on here and want a pat on the back for admitting they are cheap. I don't care if you decide not to tip, but for the love of God, STOP POSTING IT ON HERE!

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To begin with i'm sure your post was partly in jest. I'm also sure it reflects genuine, if somewhat unacknowledged resentment on your part.

Casinos will use your money to pay dealers. Either you tip them or they rake more. The alternative is to find people who work for minimum wage. Do you know who works for minimum wage? The handicapped guy waving to your sorry cheap ass on the way into Walmart. He works for minimum wage. Is that the sort of person you want dealing your cards, running your game?

As players we all benefit from good dealers. Read that part again. We ALL win when good dealers are running our games. When you try to be the one cheap ass who doesn't uphold his part of the bargain it is just that. Cheap. You are not a strong, independent thinker on a higher more objective plane of morality, you are a self deluding weasel who is benefiting from the generosity of all the other players that choose to support you.

There should be a reject table where the shitty dealers and the shitty tippers can hang out and wallow in their shitty attitudes.

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Just so I don't 'do the wrong thing'

How's this sound for a tip schedule (4/8 game)

Chip Runner $1

Blind Steal -- 0
Very small pot $.50
Most Pots $1.00
Over $100 in pot $2.00

To the posters who seem to morally object to tipping, play on-line. The dealers live on their tips, just like waiters and waitresses do.

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Chip Runner $1



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i think we can do without that one...

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yes, i don't want that wal-mart dude (a guy we all know of) running my poker game.. good points

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3% for big wins is considered standard. That having been said, if I won the WSOP, I'd probably tip a less than $240,000.

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here's my dealer tipping schedule - -

tourneys:
$5 if i finish 1st place only.. all others $0

ring games:
$1 every 3 hands won, regardless of pot size

(i will tip $1 on the third hand won on their down, and $1 max tip per down per dealer)

{{{this $1 usually serves as a 'stop cursing me' - i'm not cheap i just don't feel you did much to deserve this - i think you should tip me $1 for sitting in the 10 seat next to your fat smelly as$]]]

no tips to the floor or brushes/chip runners


anyone with me here? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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No,I'm not with you at all.You should stay home and play online because you don't deserve professional service from another human being.Get a life.

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I was talking to a dealer at Canterbury the other night and found out something surprising. The 30/60 players are still only tipping $1 per pot typically. Doesn't that seem kind of screwed up?

At 2/4 if we're tipping $0.50/$1.00 on most pots, that's a huge percentage of our BB winnings compared to the bigger games. Sure, it's an incentive to get better and move up, but I just figured the higher limit players would throw in a chip of whatever they're using on that particular table (like $10).

Is this normal, was the dealer bs'ing me, or are the local 30/60 players just cheap bastards?

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seems pretty standard across the board. if i pull down a 1k pot or larger playing NL i'll toss em a redbird. but usually 1 or 2 bucks max. thats at the borgata $4 max rake.

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This is standard. Most people play to make money, not dealer friends. I don't stiff dealers, but $10 a pot would add up huge at the end of the year.

Jeff

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i played my first live tournament today at a club. $30 buy in and $20 unlimited rebuys. 15 players i got first for $541. i gave the dealer $20 is that too much? people are telling me i should have given $5 or something.

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I've seen you play. You must have been hit over the side of the head with the deck. You should have tipped at least half. lol jk nice job

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$1 per pot on 30/60 would be great if it was the average. I would say the average on those games in vegas is more like .20 per pot, or 1/5 pots gets tipped 1 buck. Once you hit that 20/40 or higher level, the tips drop off dramatically. Honestly, I could deal 20% more hands at 30/60 than 4/8 but I'd prefer the 4/8 because the tips are normally better.

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1. I've heard from several dealers at Foxwoods, for example, that the worst game in the room to deal tip-wise is the 75/150 Stud game, and the best is 4-8 hold'em.

2. I've played at a place where the dealers are at a certain risk in just being there and dealing the game. 8-10% on tourneys and $2 a hand on average for 10-20 hold'em seems the least I can do.

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are the local 30/60 players just cheap bastards?

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They aren't cheap, they just don't overtip. $1/pot is PLENTY. A good dealer will get out at least 30 hands/hr. If he gets a buck a pot, he's making more than I do as a teacher.

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do you know that TIP stands for "To Insure Promptness"

I can reason that out to never tip any dealer ever again [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Chip Runner $1

Blind Steal -- 0
Very small pot $.50
Most Pots $1.00
Over $100 in pot $2.00


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I do give $1 to the chip runners (or go to the cage myself). I don't ever give $0.50 tips - it lets some of of the cheap asses know that $0.50 is even an option. I also don't give $2.00 on large pots, I tip $1.00 very consistently.

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do you know that TIP stands for "To Insure Promptness"

I can reason that out to never tip any dealer ever again [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Did you know you are wrong?

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do you know that TIP stands for "To Insure Promptness"

I can reason that out to never tip any dealer ever again [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Did you know you are wrong?

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Why?