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how'd i do? no reads on villian.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.5 BB (10 handed) converter

UTG ($32.5)
Hero ($72.25)
UTG+2 ($29.45)
MP1 ($49.5)
MP2 ($54.35)
MP3 ($70.5)
CO ($52.65)
Button ($22.39)
SB ($32)
BB ($76.69)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, UTG+2 calls $2, MP1 calls $2, 6 folds.

Flop: ($6.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $7, UTG+2 calls $7, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($20.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $14, UTG+2 raises to $20.45 (All-In), Hero calls $6.45.

River: ($61.65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $61.65

Looks ok. Sucks if he has 76 or something. Also I generally limp TT UTG in a full ring game.

He quite clearly holds a six. Hard fold, but a fold nonetheless.

Edit: If it wasn't a six, it was two pair. If it wasn't two pair, it was hitting a set of fives. This call stinks. I know it's not much more, but there's no way he makes that move on you when you aren't beat. NO ONE is playing a 9 really hard there.

i can't fold for that price, i'm open ended. even if he does have a 6.

p.s. nobody has guessed his hand yet.

You're NOT open ended. It's a gutshot if you put him on the six. Four outs to a split pot don't count.

EDIT: That's three outs to a split pot, since he holds one.

I wount give so much action on TT hand UTG. Especialy UTG. Becoze you often will find you in such situations. Do you want it? NO.

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He quite clearly holds a six. Hard fold, but a fold nonetheless.

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You do realize hero is getting 54:6 or 9:1 to call here, right? Even against 99 he has more than enough equity to make this call. Unless you put villain on only a straight, you have odds to call.

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You're NOT open ended. It's a gutshot if you put him on the six. Four outs to a split pot don't count.

EDIT: That's three outs to a split pot, since he holds one.

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I didn't think he had a 6.

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I wount give so much action on TT hand UTG. Especialy UTG. Becoze you often will find you in such situations. Do you want it? NO.

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when do you start raising from EP? AQ? JJ? i know it depends on the game.

Shoot most people advocate not raising JJ from EP.

he had pocket queens.

I raise:

AQs/AK and JJ+ when UTG/UTG+1 in a full ring game. If it's folded to me in UTG+2 I will raise TT+ and AJs/AQ/AK.

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he had pocket queens.

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Hate to be results oriented, but this is another reason not to raise with TT in EP. The problem is this. On a flop of all unders, you are going to have far less chance of having a TPGK type hand to pay you off (because you need people to have A8s or something similiar). You also end up paying off JJ/QQ a lot because people will smooth call PF raises with these hands often. Moreover, when the flop does call all unders, there's a higher chance people have a set or a straight draw, because there are less cards under 10. Thirdly, people who call your bets with flushdraws almost always have at least 3 hidden outs, which leaves you in a sticky situation.

So basically, I think you make a fair amount off of A8s or 99 when you do flop an overpair with TT, and you also lose less to JJ/QQ (because they give away information by raising PF), and you are more likely to play a big pot with a set on say a 4TK board because people are less afraid of AK when they hold KQ.