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Do the borg represent the pinnacle of villians when it comes to the star trek universe? I'm torn between them and the Klingons from original star trek. Any others worth mentioning.

also KAAAAAHHHN!!!!!!!

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I have always hated the Ferengei. Just whiny little bitches all the time. They weren't always villains but I hated them the most. Just my personal feelings. I wouldn't say they were the worst villians but I liked them the least.

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The Borg were a truly great villian, in part, because they threatened you with a fate worse than death. That's hard to do.

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I always had a theory that the writers of Star Trek were anti-semitic and the ferengi were the worst of jewish stereotypes.

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The Borg were a truly great villian, in part, because they threatened you with a fate worse than death. That's hard to do.

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I had never thought of it in those terms. That is a really astute observation. The season finale - premier combo of the borg in TNG are two of favorite episodes if not absolute favorite.

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I always had a theory that the writers of Star Trek were anti-semitic and the ferengi were the worst of jewish stereotypes.

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I watched a lot of TNG in middle school and then during high school and college hardly watched any Star Trek whatsoever. I have been getting back into it a lot now because of the reruns they show on the Spike Channel around noonish. I guess I never caught on to what you are saying. It makes a lot of sense.

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Nah. As kids, they'd merely seen those old Flash Gordon/Buck Rogers serials in which the villians were based on thinly-velied racial stereotypes. The recent Star Wars films have probably done worse in that regard. With some characters, they're almost as bad as the old serials themselves.

I agree with the (TNG-era) Borg choice. Loss of self can be a pretty scary thing.

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I always had a theory that the writers of Star Trek were anti-semitic and the ferengi were the worst of jewish stereotypes.

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They were meant to represent the worst parts of 20th century American capitalism. The whole first season is loaded with comments along the lines of "20th century humans were barbaric".

The Ferengi were very poorly done. They should have been intergalactic gangsters instead of comic relief.

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Here's a quote from Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, page 58 (American paperback).

It's when Harry, Ron, and Hermione are walking into a wizard's pet store in Diagon Alley.

[i]A pair of enormous purple toads sat gulping wetly and feasting on dead blowflies. A gigantic tortoise with a jewel-encrusted shell was glittering near the window. Poisonous orange snails were oozing slowly up the side of their glass tank, and a fat white rabbit kept changing into a silk to hat and back again with a loud popping noise. There were cats of every color, a noisy cage of ravens, a basket of funny custard-colored furballs that were humming loudly, and on the counter, a vast cage of sleek black rats that werer playing some sort of skipping game using their long, bald tails.

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Gul Dukat

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Its KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!, and its not even close.

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Q?

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I was going to say Q too. He was kind of cool.

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Harry Mudd.

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Not really sure if he's a "villian" or not. He wasn't always out to "assimilate" you or anything.

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Q, he was most definitely a villian.

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I’ve got to go with the Cardassians here – sneaky bas-asses with similar technology who’ll cut your throat as soon as look at you.

My only issue with the Borg is – Here they are – unstoppable, invulnerable – unbeatable. And yet – they lose.

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Nah, besides if he was all powerful why couldn’t he stop his Male Pattern Baldness from showing?

I will admit that Q was one of my favorite characters. But if he was so fond of humans (as he demonstrated), when the Federation was in trouble against the Dominion (I know it’s DS9 not TNG) why didn’t he just show up and kick their ass?

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darmok and jilad at tanagra

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vnh

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Harry Mudd.

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An oldie but a goodie...

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I've seen that before

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nh lol

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Definitely Q.

never a bad episode with Q.

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Just because no Star Trek thread would be complete w/o this:

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Way cool, although I didn't consider him a "villian" per se but more as another character.

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nh lol

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Seriously.

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I don't think anyone can argue it is the Borg, because unlike Q or any other "villan" the Borg can't be reasoned with, or bargained with, and it absolutely will not stop until you are de... uh assimilated! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Personally though, I loved Wayun and the whole Dominion Jem Hadar storyline of the later DS9's ... I thought Jeffrey Combs (of Re-animator fame) played an excellent villan in Wayun.

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Species 8472 (or whatever)?

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Jeffrey Combs.

That guy annoys the crap out of me no matter who he is. I mean are they that hard up for actors that they keep having to cast the same guy as like 12 different aliens?

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"There are four lights." Definitely that Cardassian dude.

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I don't know who the best Star Trek villian was but I'm pretty sure the worst ones were the god damn space hippies. Going around preaching with their long hair, drugs, and no jobs. But at least when they got to their planet it was all poison. Ha Ha.

Also, as a kid I remember that Charlie X guy who made a crew members face a blank. That scared the crap out of me. Kind of still does when I see that one.

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Harcourt Fenton Mudd. Brilliant.

But I go with the bearded Spock.

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The Holodeck.


That, or whatever dumbass engineer designed the seating on the bridge and forgot to include seatbelts (or, say, a very small tractor beam built into every seat).