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stankphish 06-27-2005 05:26 PM

Cardrooms near Seattle airport
 
Ive got an overnight layover in seattle this Friday and am trying to find out if there are any cardrooms within walking distance or short cab ride of the airport. Thanks

Monolith 06-27-2005 09:46 PM

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Hi there. You can take a relatively short cab ride from Sea-Tac International to a place in Renton called Diamond Lil's. Only about a ten minute ride, and very good poker action there!

TheCroShow 06-28-2005 05:29 AM

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there are 2 B&M places near Sea-Tac correct? i went there last christmas, had a one night layover there and decided to check out the nearest card room. i walk in and oh wait, i'm stopped! guy asks for my ID, no biggie, i bust out 2 pieces of federally issued ID cards w/pictures, guy says nope, i need to see your driver's licence. (i'm canadian btw) i'm like look, these are federally issued pieces of indentification, if US customs let me in with these, i certainly hope i can play cards here! lol...he shakes his head, "nope i need to see a driver's licence."

i call a manager over, she takes one look and says "he's good." i walk in there on tilt, not a good idea! lol in all fairness i was pretty bad at poker at the time, now i am basically the ownage

BoogerFace 06-28-2005 09:17 AM

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If it were me, I'd rent a car on priceline.com for $10 and drive up to Tulalip. Beautiful room and fewer cheats.

stankphish 06-28-2005 12:04 PM

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Im only 20 so I cant rent a car or play at tulalip. Can I play at Diamond Lils?

bernie 06-28-2005 05:30 PM

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If it were me, I'd rent a car on priceline.com for $10 and drive up to Tulalip. Beautiful room and fewer cheats.

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As opposed to being cheated where?

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stankphish 06-28-2005 05:59 PM

Re: Cardrooms near Seattle airport
 
Ive played in a few shady card rooms in WA.

wayabvpar 06-28-2005 06:08 PM

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Midway Casino is not too far from the airport (<5 miles). The games are softer than at Lil's, or so I am told (haven't played Midway). Might be worth a look.

This site might be of some use to you.

bernie 06-28-2005 06:12 PM

Re: Cardrooms near Seattle airport
 
Like where? And how were they shady?

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stankphish 06-28-2005 06:49 PM

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The New Grove in Everett is the main one that I thought was shady.

At first it appears like they are just maniacs but when one guy raises and 3 people in between call then the other guy raises 2,8off trapping the people in between then his buddy raises them again and the guy with 2,8 folds on the flop. I think that is shady. That went on every time i played there. The 2,8 raiser was not a bad player or dumb either so the only way that could have been profitable for him was if they were sharing a roll.

Another thing was the last night i played there i found out half of them were props, and on top of that there friends and family would come and play and they would do that trapping shat preflop then start a raising war between them on the flop and when the people who got trapped preflop would fold they would just check to the river.

Im not too experienced in these matters and i was real naive to it at the time but my boss who played there with me who has several years of casino experience pointed it out to me. Im not sure if its cheating or not but its defiantely shady.

bernie 06-28-2005 07:04 PM

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At first it appears like they are just maniacs but when one guy raises and 3 people in between call then the other guy raises 2,8off trapping the people in between then his buddy raises them again and the guy with 2,8 folds on the flop. I think that is shady. That went on every time i played there. The 2,8 raiser was not a bad player or dumb either so the only way that could have been profitable for him was if they were sharing a roll.

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I take it this was 4-8 or lower? This can be common in most smaller rooms. Wait 'til they play this way blind. What would be shady is the guy with 82os playing and jamming to the river, then folding for 1 bet.

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Another thing was the last night i played there i found out half of them were props, and on top of that there friends and family would come and play and they would do that trapping shat preflop then start a raising war between them on the flop and when the people who got trapped preflop would fold they would just check to the river.

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Props and friends/family doesn't always mean much. I used to play in a room just like this. (sonny's in Fed way) Easy, you play like it's a maniac game.

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Im not too experienced in these matters and i was real naive to it at the time but my boss who played there with me who has several years of casino experience pointed it out to me

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I know plenty of people with casino experience who don't understand poker but think they do. Including dealers and floor people. Some thought the 3-6 table over last x-mas at the 2+2 meeting were cheating. I actually took the time to talk to the dealer about it and let them know what was happening. It took awhile to finally smooth it over a bit. Which is common when you see an overaggressive, multi-maniacal table.

The games you watch out for are the hand held games. Which are dying out, for the most part.

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stankphish 06-28-2005 07:26 PM

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I take it this was 4-8 or lower? This can be common in most smaller rooms. Wait 'til they play this way blind. What would be shady is the guy with 82os playing and jamming to the river, then folding for 1 bet.

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Because he is a good player who is not retarded that looks at 82off then raises his friend with callers in between them then he quietly goes away on the flop. Its one thing if he were a maniac and thats what i thought at first, but when i started paying attention he would only pull those crazy raises when he was trapping people.

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Props and friends/family doesn't always mean much. I used to play in a room just like this. (sonny's in Fed way) Easy, you play like it's a maniac game.

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Its not the fact that they are props and play with their family its when they trap people preflop, start a raising war between eachother on the flop then when everyone gets out they check down.

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I know plenty of people with casino experience who don't understand poker but think they do. Including dealers and floor people. Some thought the 3-6 table over last x-mas at the 2+2 meeting were cheating. I actually took the time to talk to the dealer about it and let them know what was happening. It took awhile to finally smooth it over a bit. Which is common when you see an overaggressive, multi-maniacal table.

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I know what your talking about there. Ive had people complain that me and a few friends were being to friendly at the table. Im sure to a fish who is losing it looks like collusion or something b/c we all knew eachother. Im apt enough to tell the difference though.

All things aside that game was pretty good. It was 4/8 full kill with overs. I would just not sit in between the 3-4 guys that i thought did that (they were either dealers or props there too) and im not foolish enough to call raises with marginal hands with people left to act behind me. I heard that it just got shut down though.

Ruddiger 06-29-2005 02:11 AM

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In theory the card room at tulalip should be great, in practice it is my least favorite place to play in the area.
Not even close to a 40 mile ride.

This is a little bit off topic, but speaking of shady. I saw on the washington state gambling commision website that the hideaway in shoreline has applied for a gambling license again. Anyone know what is going on with that?

stabn 06-29-2005 02:33 AM

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If it were me, I'd rent a car on priceline.com for $10 and drive up to Tulalip. Beautiful room and fewer cheats.

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Lol?

BoogerFace 06-29-2005 09:46 AM

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Compact cars on priceline can be commonly had for $10. $15 for 'mid-size'.

I know the Seattle locals hate Tulalip for some reason. For me the location is pretty convienient since Dad lives on South Whidbey.

But compared to the hell that is called Foxwoods - that cardroom is heaven. Yummy sandwiches at the table and soft 10/20 tables. Things are all relative, I suppose.

Collaborators are a problem at many cardrooms. Fortunately most are bad poker players.

stankphish 06-29-2005 11:54 AM

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Ive talked to alot of people that dont like Tulalip for some reason. I prefer to play at the Drift on Inn but thats too far away from the airport.

wayabvpar 06-29-2005 12:34 PM

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The Tulalip room is the worst setup and worst run room I have played in (not a long list, but still...). The dealers are overworked and thus surly, the board is situated in such a way that it is physically impossible to get more than 2 people close enough to talk to the brush, and the room manager seems overwhelmed and unsure when a floor decision is needed.

Been awhile since I have been up there though- maybe it has changed?

stabn 06-29-2005 01:47 PM

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The Tulalip room is the worst setup and worst run room I have played in (not a long list, but still...). The dealers are overworked and thus surly, the board is situated in such a way that it is physically impossible to get more than 2 people close enough to talk to the brush, and the room manager seems overwhelmed and unsure when a floor decision is needed.

Been awhile since I have been up there though- maybe it has changed?

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No, it hasn't. Since i'm not a regular i also seem to get ignored for 10 minutes any time i want to get my name on the board. I love the fact that it is non-smoking, and the chairs are great, but i can't stand how poorly it is run.

stabn 06-29-2005 01:51 PM

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The lol was more about 'fewer cheats'.

I've played in the following rooms and never had a problem with cheats:

Parkers
Lils
Golden Nugget
Silver dollar renton
Muck
Tulalip

Picking tulalip because of location can make sense, picking it because it is non-smoking can make sense, picking it because you like horrible floor staff can make sense (i guess), but picking it because of 'fewer cheats' is just nonsense.

BoogerFace 06-29-2005 02:00 PM

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Been awhile since I have been up there though- maybe it has changed?

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I think it has probably changed. I played there twice back in April. Saturday night they had a lot of games going, and yet the floor went to the cage for me. The following Wednesday there was a smaller crowd with a list - they gave me a beeper so I could step out for a bite. Both nights the dealers were pleasant and friendly. Plenty of tourists who think K4 off is a great hand to play in EP.

I've never had a better experience in a cardroom. (In terms of service, of course.) Much better than River Rock, IMO.

stabn 06-29-2005 02:08 PM

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Been awhile since I have been up there though- maybe it has changed?

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I think it has probably changed. I played there twice back in April. Saturday night they had a lot of games going, and yet the floor went to the cage for me. The following Wednesday there was a smaller crowd with a list - they gave me a beeper so I could step out for a bite. Both nights the dealers were pleasant and friendly. Plenty of tourists who think K4 off is a great hand to play in EP.

I've never had a better experience in a cardroom. (In terms of service, of course.) Much better than River Rock, IMO.

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You owe it to yourself to try the muck or lils sometime [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

BoogerFace 06-29-2005 02:09 PM

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I bow to your superior arrogance. And I agree to disagree.

Are you absolutely sure you've never encountered team-mates in these rooms? It's more prevalent that you're probably aware of - and not limited to these rooms. It's not an insurmountable challenge either, but it's one I personally don't care for.

stankphish 06-29-2005 02:14 PM

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I just really prefer the lets get drunk and lose half my pay check attitude Fridays at the Drift on Inn. Then again im only 20 and my options are limited.

stabn 06-29-2005 03:46 PM

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I just really prefer the lets get drunk and lose half my pay check attitude Fridays at the Drift on Inn. Then again im only 20 and my options are limited.

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I agree, that is a great attitude [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. I haven't tried that place yet though. What's the highest limit they regularly spread?

stabn 06-29-2005 03:48 PM

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I bow to your superior arrogance. And I agree to disagree.

Are you absolutely sure you've never encountered team-mates in these rooms? It's more prevalent that you're probably aware of - and not limited to these rooms. It's not an insurmountable challenge either, but it's one I personally don't care for.

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Yes because obviously being from 'outside boston' you have more experience playing in these rooms than i do. And obviously, again, tulalip has less of it, beacuse of the thousands of hours you've put in at that room to have enough of a sample size to really judge that there is 'less'?

bernie 06-29-2005 03:56 PM

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Are you absolutely sure you've never encountered team-mates in these rooms? It's more prevalent that you're probably aware of - and not limited to these rooms.

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More prevalent than he's aware of? Please.

You need to lay off watching Rounders and Tilt.

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stankphish 06-29-2005 04:53 PM

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I agree, that is a great attitude . I haven't tried that place yet though. What's the highest limit they regularly spread?

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During the week they usually spread 4/8 and 4/8 full kill, but on the weekends they have 8/16. If smoke bothers you though you will probably wont want to play there. IMO super drunk LAGs make up for the carcinogens in the air.

stabn 06-29-2005 05:59 PM

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I agree, that is a great attitude . I haven't tried that place yet though. What's the highest limit they regularly spread?

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During the week they usually spread 4/8 and 4/8 full kill, but on the weekends they have 8/16. If smoke bothers you though you will probably wont want to play there. IMO super drunk LAGs make up for the carcinogens in the air.

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I usually play at lils so i'm definitely used to smoke. Thanks for the info on the drift.

jordanx 06-29-2005 06:25 PM

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http://www.casinocity.com/us/wa/seatac/seatacsd/

If you look reasonably old, you wont get carded.

stankphish 06-29-2005 06:38 PM

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I cant pull off 21. I can barely convince people that im 18. It sucks for things like that but ladies dig the baby face.

jordanx 06-29-2005 06:44 PM

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It may seem like people are colluding or cheating in some cases, but the fact is most of these players play much to poorly to profit by cheating this way.

A lot of people at the local rooms here just like to build big pots pre-flop. It's very common for someone to limp in then cap it pre-flop if it comes back to him 3-bet (even with trash).

It's also common for a pre-flop cap then have the flop checked through and finally someone bets his Pocket 6s on the turn.

This actually makes for a very good game.

jordanx 06-29-2005 06:54 PM

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Goldies on Aurora (by the Drift On Inn) and Kenmore Lanes near Bothell have 18+ poker. Both are pretty far away from the airport.

There are tons of cardrooms in renton/tukwilla/seatac, but I think they are all 21+, they don't seem to card too much, but I'm 28 so I don't get asked too much anywhere.

bernie 06-30-2005 02:18 AM

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I cant pull off 21. I can barely convince people that im 18. It sucks for things like that but ladies dig the baby face.

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GoT got into mucks. He looks about 18. Though because he's asian, he'd less likely be carded in some places, imo. Asians tend to age well.

I loved the look on his face when I came up behind him and said in a deeper firm voice, "Excuse me, son..."

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BoogerFace 06-30-2005 10:32 AM

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Point taken. I still assert that your average visitor to the Pacific northwest would have a perfectly pleasant smoke-free experience at Tulalip. Even though I don't have a sample size of 10k tourists to justify the statement.

Perhaps if you personally visited 10 thousand different cardrooms, you might realise that in the grand scheme of things people could do far far worse than Tulalip. Consider yourself fortunate that Seattle has so many different rooms to choose from. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

stabn 06-30-2005 03:26 PM

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Point taken. I still assert that your average visitor to the Pacific northwest would have a perfectly pleasant smoke-free experience at Tulalip. Even though I don't have a sample size of 10k tourists to justify the statement.

Perhaps if you personally visited 10 thousand different cardrooms, you might realise that in the grand scheme of things people could do far far worse than Tulalip. Consider yourself fortunate that Seattle has so many different rooms to choose from. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

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But we're talking about seattle and in the grand scheme of seattle cardrooms the suck-ass floor and so-so dealers at tulalip are going to ruin more nights than the floor or dealers will at any other cardroom in the area. If you have to have non-smoking though they are unfortunately the only real option in the seattle area. They still aren't close to the airport though, and i think someone here for a layover can have plenty of fun at any of the casino's that are 5-10 minutes away instead of driving 40 minutes up to tulalip.

wayabvpar 06-30-2005 03:36 PM

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Point taken. I still assert that your average visitor to the Pacific northwest would have a perfectly pleasant smoke-free experience at Tulalip. Even though I don't have a sample size of 10k tourists to justify the statement.

Perhaps if you personally visited 10 thousand different cardrooms, you might realise that in the grand scheme of things people could do far far worse than Tulalip. Consider yourself fortunate that Seattle has so many different rooms to choose from. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

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But we're talking about seattle and in the grand scheme of seattle cardrooms the suck-ass floor and so-so dealers at tulalip are going to ruin more nights than the floor or dealers will at any other cardroom in the area. If you have to have non-smoking though they are unfortunately the only real option in the seattle area. They still aren't close to the airport though, and i think someone here for a layover can have plenty of fun at any of the casino's that are 5-10 minutes away instead of driving 40 minutes up to tulalip.

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40 minutes at midnight, maybe. Easily double that if it is anywhere near rush hour. Traffic getting through Everett is hellish.

bernie 06-30-2005 04:09 PM

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Point taken. I still assert that your average visitor to the Pacific northwest would have a perfectly pleasant smoke-free experience at Tulalip. Even though I don't have a sample size of 10k tourists to justify the statement.

Perhaps if you personally visited 10 thousand different cardrooms, you might realise that in the grand scheme of things people could do far far worse than Tulalip. Consider yourself fortunate that Seattle has so many different rooms to choose from. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

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But we're talking about seattle and in the grand scheme of seattle cardrooms the suck-ass floor and so-so dealers at tulalip are going to ruin more nights than the floor or dealers will at any other cardroom in the area. If you have to have non-smoking though they are unfortunately the only real option in the seattle area. They still aren't close to the airport though, and i think someone here for a layover can have plenty of fun at any of the casino's that are 5-10 minutes away instead of driving 40 minutes up to tulalip.

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40 minutes at midnight, maybe. Easily double that if it is anywhere near rush hour. Traffic getting through Everett is hellish.

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Traffic getting through the convention center(downtown seattle), Lynnwood (around 44th st) AND Everett is hellish. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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stabn 06-30-2005 04:15 PM

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Point taken. I still assert that your average visitor to the Pacific northwest would have a perfectly pleasant smoke-free experience at Tulalip. Even though I don't have a sample size of 10k tourists to justify the statement.

Perhaps if you personally visited 10 thousand different cardrooms, you might realise that in the grand scheme of things people could do far far worse than Tulalip. Consider yourself fortunate that Seattle has so many different rooms to choose from. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

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But we're talking about seattle and in the grand scheme of seattle cardrooms the suck-ass floor and so-so dealers at tulalip are going to ruin more nights than the floor or dealers will at any other cardroom in the area. If you have to have non-smoking though they are unfortunately the only real option in the seattle area. They still aren't close to the airport though, and i think someone here for a layover can have plenty of fun at any of the casino's that are 5-10 minutes away instead of driving 40 minutes up to tulalip.

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40 minutes at midnight, maybe. Easily double that if it is anywhere near rush hour. Traffic getting through Everett is hellish.

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Traffic getting through the convention center(downtown seattle), Lynnwood (around 44th st) AND Everett is hellish. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I'm not dumb enough to go to tulalip during the week [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

jordanx 06-30-2005 04:55 PM

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Even the weekends aren't safe now they put in the designer outlets.... You know, everyone in Everett HAS to have a discount LV handbag.

It takes about 40 minutes to get from the parking lot to the poker room at Tulalip.


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