Party Poker\'s New Intra Account Transfer Cashout Rules
 

What kind of garbage is this?? When someone intra account transfers me money, now I can't even cash it out until i play a TON.


We would like to inform you that your cashout of $950.00 requested on 06/25/2005 has been put back to your poker account. You will have to play a minimum of 25% of the Inter Account Transfer amount as Raked Hands before cashing out. You can request for a cashout once you complete playing the minimum number of raked hands required.

We thank you in advance for your understanding and cooperation in this regard.

Contact us anytime, we are available around the clock to assist you with your account related questions and suggestions.

Sincerely,

Sricharan
Investigations Team
[email protected]
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wow. can they do that??? i'm definetly reading the T&C's at Party all the time now.

Can you send the money back to the person and have everything be cool? or will they have them play the required 25% too?

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Well, it's only 238 hands but that really blows.

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So i have to play 238 Raked hands just to withdraw my money now? 25% of 950.. Thats so retarded.. I only play SNGs so what does that equal?

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It still equals 238 raked hands. You have to play ring games.

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this really sucks

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OMG PARTY POKER IS TRYING TO PREVENT MONEY LAUNDERING!! WTF!!! BIGGEST OUTRAGE EVER!!!!

stfu

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agree

also, props to party for being first in the bot-blocker. 2 good moves here and both will improve the float net.

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It's not a bad idea but it would be nice if SnG's counted for raked hands.

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Unbelievable [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I trusted Party so much... They still owed me my beach sandals [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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How is this a good idea? I only play SNGs.. Punish the SNG player?? Please explain how this is a good thing

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how do you know sit n gos dont count? i feel safe in saying you naysayers who only play sng's havent even tried an interaccount xfer. i would also feel safe in saying that you would have to pay 25% of the xfer amount in sng fees. its funny how people can try to find anything even something of such minute consequence to complain about, you sngers who feel slighted by this rule, how many IAT's have you done in the lifetime of your account? moving money costs these sites money, as another poster mentioned, they dont want to be used as laundering agents, or free banks. welcome to the world.

gl and godspeed

morg.

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how do you know sit n gos dont count. they only dont count towards unlocking bonuses, and i feel safe in saying you naysayers who only play sng's havent even tried an interaccount xfer. i would also feel safe in saying that you would have to pay 25% of the xfer amount in sng fees. its funny how people can try to find anything even something of such minute consequence to complain about...haha

gl and godspeed

morg.

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such a stud

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Party is smart. They found a way to make the money launderers have to play some raked hands!

250,000 raked hands to luander a mil. These guys are going to be busy now.

The site should be filled now with multi-tabling money launderers.

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I applaud Party for this new policy. Its a good decision.

For the poster who complained about the policy because he only plays Sit and gos, I say email Party to discuss. They might provide an exception for you. The tech support is slow, but surprisingly helpful if you have a real issue that is caused by their new policies.

TT

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Since you're whining about something dumb...

It's inter-account transfer. It even says that on the button. What kind of garbage grammer did you use?


Oh, and since when is 238 raked hands a "TON"?

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I think it is a good policy, but it should include some equivalent provision for SNG players.

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I applaud Party for this new policy. Its a good decision.

For the poster who complained about the policy because he only plays Sit and gos, I say email Party to discuss. They might provide an exception for you. The tech support is slow, but surprisingly helpful if you have a real issue that is caused by their new policies.

TT

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It is a dumb ass policy, if they want to stop money laundering either put a dollar limit on the transactions, or do not allow them. Pretty [censored] simple.

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Party is smart. They found a way to make the money launderers have to play some raked hands!

250,000 raked hands to luander a mil. These guys are going to be busy now.

The site should be filled now with multi-tabling money launderers.

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Time to find a money-launderer to stake me.

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You guys are such babies. All this whining about bonuses requirements and now transfers, etc.

News flash:

The idea is to play poker! Not mouse free money from bonuses or transferring funds for cash out purposes.

What they're asking is not unreasonable. Deposit money, become a valued customer, and they'll pay you a bonus. If you want to lend a friend money so that he can play, they'll let you transfer money for that purpose.

I doubt those who whine about such things are very able poker players anyway, but it probably won't hurt the games if all you tight-assed low limit babies took your business elsewhere.

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You guys are such babies. All this whining about bonuses requirements and now transfers, etc.

News flash:

The idea is to play poker! Not mouse free money from bonuses or transferring funds for cash out purposes.

What they're asking is not unreasonable. Deposit money, become a valued customer, and they'll pay you a bonus. If you want to lend a friend money so that he can play, they'll let you transfer money for that purpose.

I doubt those who whine about such things are very able poker players anyway, but it probably won't hurt the games if all you tight-assed low limit babies took your business elsewhere.

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Well the question is.. Is it my money or isnt it? Can I do what I want with it or cant I? Apparently I cannot..

I wanted to use that money to play at another pokersite.

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You guys are such babies. All this whining about bonuses requirements and now transfers, etc.

News flash:

The idea is to play poker! Not mouse free money from bonuses or transferring funds for cash out purposes.

What they're asking is not unreasonable. Deposit money, become a valued customer, and they'll pay you a bonus. If you want to lend a friend money so that he can play, they'll let you transfer money for that purpose.

I doubt those who whine about such things are very able poker players anyway, but it probably won't hurt the games if all you tight-assed low limit babies took your business elsewhere.

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Well the question is.. Is it my money or isnt it? Can I do what I want with it or cant I? Apparently I cannot..

I wanted to use that money to play at another pokersite.

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Why should Party provide a service to you in order to allow you to go to their competitor? You people seem to always forget they're a fricking business, not a charity.

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Then it sounds like you should have had it transfered to you by some other means..... Now you know.

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Their objectives are reasonable but their methods are unethical.

Everyone that I win money from at poker made a voluntary choice to play. This is a basic rule of the game.

No gambling institution should ever insist that someone gamble as a condition for returning player funds. Any reputable regulatory agency would shut a casino down for doing that.

Of course Party doesn't have that particular problem but that's no excuse.

They should charge an appropriate fee for the transfer and allow the player to work it off like a bonus by playing raked hands. There should be some reasonable provision for tournament players.

I wonder what happens if a player busts before he plays his required hands? Are they going to lock down his next deposit?

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Neteller charges Party to transfer money from them to your account. It isn't unreasonable that you would have play some before cashing out.

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Actually, the way they look at it is that it's not your money, but your friend's money, that he gave you to use to play poker with on THAT site. If you play on that money, I'm sure they'll let you take it out or transferring it back to your friend.

They view transfers as a privilege. It's to be used only as a means to facilliate play on their site. Not for settling debts, laundering money, or cash-outs. Surely you can see their point. Can't you?

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i can't even find the transfer button anymore, where is it lol?

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OMG PARTY POKER IS TRYING TO PREVENT MONEY LAUNDERING!! WTF!!! BIGGEST OUTRAGE EVER!!!!

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agree

also, props to party for being first in the bot-blocker. 2 good moves here and both will improve the float net.

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What is this bot blocker? I am ant bot and would be happy knowing they take extra steps to assure a bot free environment.

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Deposit money, become a valued customer, and they'll pay you a bonus.

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Wrong.

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OMG PARTY POKER IS TRYING TO PREVENT MONEY LAUNDERING!! WTF!!! BIGGEST OUTRAGE EVER!!!!

stfu

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there are some of us who are actually repaying / staking legitimately and this sucks for us (namely those getting large amounts of $ back). The extra hands are just a nuisance.

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Don't forget those getting and paying rakeback and using Party as a vehicle for this.

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You guys are such babies. All this whining about bonuses requirements and now transfers, etc.

News flash:

The idea is to play poker! Not mouse free money from bonuses or transferring funds for cash out purposes.

What they're asking is not unreasonable. Deposit money, become a valued customer, and they'll pay you a bonus. If you want to lend a friend money so that he can play, they'll let you transfer money for that purpose.

I doubt those who whine about such things are very able poker players anyway, but it probably won't hurt the games if all you tight-assed low limit babies took your business elsewhere.

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I made a similar comment when everyone was going off on their new bonus policies. Its ridiculous that these people think that party should do anything they want. As if party is only around for bonus whores and people who want to launder money.


The transfer function wasnt set up for people to use on other sites, it was set up for people to play on party poker. Is it that hard to understand?

There are hundreds of ways for you to get money from your buddy. How about havig HIM withdraw it and sending you a check so you can play at another site.

And is it so hard to sit down at a low limit table for a couple of hours to clear the rake requirement? 200 raked hands shouldnt be a problem.

Personally i take advantage of the bonuses as much as i can and have transfered money. These new rules won't get in the way for me. But then again i am not trying to abuse the system.

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OMG PARTY POKER IS TRYING TO PREVENT MONEY LAUNDERING!! WTF!!! BIGGEST OUTRAGE EVER!!!!

stfu

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there are some of us who are actually repaying / staking legitimately and this sucks for us (namely those getting large amounts of $ back). The extra hands are just a nuisance.

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Please explain to me what type of staking arrangement doesn't involve you playing any poker? The limit on party for transfers is $1000/wk anyways IIRC. You're telling me you can't get 250 raked hands in?

If you're reasoning is that you're transferring on Party so that the person you're staking can play on another site, like I said before why would Party possibly want to provide a service to you in order to facilitate you going to their competitor? This move by Party is a wonderful business move, and a wonderful move in order to protect themselves.

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stop trolling [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Yikes.

I stake some guys in casinos and this is how we transfer money back and forth to save on the Neteller transfer fees.

Of course I understand their reasons...but it still sucks.

For me, anyway... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Is this another way to keep people from generating neteller fees to stimulate bonuses? If you transfer to a friend and he withdraws and transfers to you somewhere, then the restriction against withdrawing before a bonus would be circumvented.

Why don't they just make the bonuses for play and let the player figure out when he needs to put more money on the site?

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Why don't they just make the bonuses for play and let the player figure out when he needs to put more money on the site?

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Many bad players virtually never withdraw. Any money they can be persuaded to deposit will eventually be raked or lost to players like us. For them a deposit is a decision to spend money on entertainment.

Can you see why it's nice for us that bonuses require deposits?

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moving money costs these sites money

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Personally I think there are 2 situations here:

1) player A deposits and transfers to player B who cashes out. FAIR Policy from Party.

2) player A happens to be playing and wins a bunch of money... transfers to player B who cashes out (private debt/percentage of action whatever) -- this should be allowed.

Situation 2 doesn't cost the site anything extra whatsoever since player A could just cashout the money himself... what difference does it make if player B cashes out. None imho.

Just my 2cs.

Rom

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OMG PARTY POKER IS TRYING TO PREVENT MONEY LAUNDERING!! WTF!!! BIGGEST OUTRAGE EVER!!!!

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there are some of us who are actually repaying / staking legitimately and this sucks for us (namely those getting large amounts of $ back). The extra hands are just a nuisance.

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Please explain to me what type of staking arrangement doesn't involve you playing any poker? The limit on party for transfers is $1000/wk anyways IIRC. You're telling me you can't get 250 raked hands in?

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limit is now 2.5k I believe. I've transferred and received that much in a week many times.

Basically when you're getting paid back and Party is not your main playing home- but yes I can get raked hands in.

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If you're reasoning is that you're transferring on Party so that the person you're staking can play on another site, like I said before why would Party possibly want to provide a service to you in order to facilitate you going to their competitor? This move by Party is a wonderful business move, and a wonderful move in order to protect themselves.

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I didn't say it was unfair of them to do this, just a nuisance to some of us.

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Don't forget those getting and paying rakeback and using Party as a vehicle for this.

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Fwiw, as of right now and the past year and a half I don't have any RB.

People will just use other sites for this now. Though there is an unspoken playing requirement, it's considerably less than 25%.