AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

Party 30/60

4 limpers, SB completes, I raise in the BB with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

6 players

Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB checks, I bet, first EP limper raises, everybody clears out, I-3 bet, he caps.

2 players

Turn: T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check, he bets, I call

2 players

River: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check, he bets, I call.


Results to follow.

Re: AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

i might think about leading the turn. no free cards!!

Re: AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

I play it the same.

Result
 

He had 66, MHING.

Re: AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

I don't play 30/60, but once eveyone clears out, I tend to call flop, lead non [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] turn and call down from there.

Re: AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

Sometimes I would call him down, and sometimes bet the turn. Since there is a pos flush draw out, I would probably lead the turn 2/3 of the time.

Re: AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

I know I'm in the minority but I don't like raising preflop here. It's too late to chase anyone out and I prefer to see some hearts flop before I start to jam. On his flop cap, you have to put EP on AJo or less likely 66. I'd just call it down.

Re: AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

If you put him on AJ or 66 you should fold

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If you put him on AJ or 66 you should fold

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great advice

Re: AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

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I know I'm in the minority but I don't like raising preflop here. It's too late to chase anyone out and I prefer to see some hearts flop before I start to jam. On his flop cap, you have to put EP on AJo or less likely 66. I'd just call it down.

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Not raising preflop is disgustingly bad.

Re: AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

With the 2 additional BB's you put in to call it down, you're getting 6 to 1. Your hand will be good or will improve to be good at least that often.

Re: AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

I play it the same. I'd lead the turn if the raise came from a later position. But from EP with 4 more players left to act, it's less likely he's drawing.

Re: AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

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Not raising preflop is disgustingly bad.

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I would disagree. I think this is a raise most of the time against loose opponents (and given the info the poster has provided yes I would raise too), but if the players that limped are tight, thinking players, then raising a non-premium hand out of position & also allowing them to narrow down your possible hands isn't a great play IMO. Does anyone else see value in checking the BB or does deception have little value in a 6-way pot?

Re: AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

Deception value doesn't even come close to making up for the +EV you give up by not raising AQs here, tight thinking opponents or not.

Re: AQs in the BB, you play it the same?
 

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I play it the same. I'd lead the turn if the raise came from a later position. But from EP with 4 more players left to act, it's less likely he's drawing.

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Yes, this was my thought. If he is on a spade draw, why would he try to clear out the field like that with a flop raise? Wouldn't he be better off calling and letting others in behind him for a nice payoff when he hits his flush.

I put him on a made hand already, and when he capped the flop, I thought it even more likely that he had two pair or a set as opposed to a flush draw.