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Matty 06-24-2005 10:08 AM

What are you?
 
If you're going to vote, please take the test. Don't just make an assumption because you might be surprised.

http://typology.people-press.org/typology/

vulturesrow 06-24-2005 02:10 PM

Re: What are you?
 
I came out as an Enterpriser. Reading the description after, I thought it was fairly accurate, although some of the percentages, I didnt fit into, the most notable being that I dont regard Fox News as my primary news source and saying that I have very little support for government help for the poor. But overall, interesting survey. Thanks for the link.

shots 06-24-2005 02:28 PM

Re: What are you?
 
I was also an enterpriser although I found some of the questions ridiculous, as if the only choices are giving handouts to the poor and ignoring them. Giving people handouts just keeps them subjegated what we need to do is teach people that their fate is in their own hands and focus on job training for people that need it.

MMMMMM 06-24-2005 02:42 PM

Re: What are you?
 
I qualified as an "Upbeat" ;-) [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Interesting survey; some choices were kind of tough, but overall there seemed enough leeway to show a preference, even though few questions seemed a perfect fit.

Cool survey, Grey [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

andyfox 06-24-2005 02:50 PM

Re: What are you?
 
So far, you're the only upbeat.

I scored a downbeat. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

No, I was a liberal. Duh.

Zeno 06-24-2005 03:08 PM

Re: What are you?
 
I am, naturally, an upbeat. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


As with many surveys/polls of this nature, I do not take much stock in the results, however interesting they may be.

-Zeno

vulturesrow 06-24-2005 03:14 PM

Re: What are you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I am, naturally, an upbeat. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


As with many surveys/polls of this nature, I do not take much stock in the results, however interesting they may be.

-Zeno

[/ QUOTE ]

An Upbeat misanthrope...eerie, yet strangely fitting. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

MMMMMM 06-24-2005 03:23 PM

Re: What are you?
 
Andy I am very disappointed in you.

A few days ago I responded to another poster's statement, calling his post a striking example of how liberals don't live in reality.

You were silent, and thereby greatly disappointed me.

I had half-expected you to riposte something beginning with, "Well, this liberal......";-)

To which I would have responded: no, Andy, you don't live in reality--you live in history books.

But you blew it, Andy. Get with the program why don't you. My sense of humor has very limited opportunities.

I guess I should have figured it wasn't likely to work, because from your poker posts you don't appear to be a very auspicious candidate for a check-raise attempt.

I guess next time I'll need lead you by the nose a little more; after all, it wasn't your post to which I was responding.

Back now to the current topic: it seems to me that "liberals" and "downbeat" tend to go together a bit more than the flip side go together: would you agree? (not a trick question, and "downbeat" is here meant as a rather pessimistic outlook).

Roy Munson 06-24-2005 03:48 PM

Re: What are you?
 
My result was enterpriser yet I did not vote for Bush, was against the Iraq war from the beginning and am not even close to being a Republican.

This leads me to question the polls methodology and conclusions drawn.

andyfox 06-24-2005 03:48 PM

Re: What are you?
 
Didn't see your liberal/reality post, sorry. I normally don't like to miss an opportunity to tell you how wrong you are. Alas, tomorrow is another day. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Thanks for the compliment on my poker posts. I think I've progressed from a B- to a solid B, borderline B+, in large part due to 2+2. I'm that proverbial 78 golfer David mentioned in one of his articles; I'll get killed by the par shooters, but there are a lot of guy who shoot in the 80s (or higher).

As for leading me by the nose, we haven't met, but if we did, you'd see that'd be pretty easy.

As for liberals and downbeat, well they're out of power now, so they're naturally critical. During the '60s and '70s, and during the Clinton years, the conservatives were downbeat. Reagan, for example, constantly said we were going to hell in a handbasket (or whatever that expression is), despite his optimistic reputation, whereas Hubert Humphrey was known as "The Happy Warrior." I suppose in the sense that liberals favor change, and conservatives the status quo (and I realize that these are somewhat oversimplified definitions of the terms), liberals would tend to be more downbeat, since if they favor change, that would mean there is something wrong that requires changing.

By my being a "downbeat," I was referring to my curmudgeon-like demeanor, rather than any political stances.

As for my life in history books, like my not-quite hero Thomas Jefferson, I cannot live without books. Today, I received my latest order from Amazon: A biography of the great California architect Irving Gill; a book about the TV Show The West Wing; and "Managing Sales for Business Growth."

Man does not live by the nut flush alone.

MMMMMM 06-24-2005 04:10 PM

Re: What are you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
As for my life in history books, like my not-quite hero Thomas Jefferson, I cannot live without books. Today, I received my latest order from Amazon: A biography of the great California architect Irving Gill; a book about the TV Show The West Wing; and "Managing Sales for Business Growth."

Man does not live by the nut flush alone.

[/ QUOTE ]

I just ordered a couple of books off eBay, on recognizing edible wild plants.

I think I can already recognize nuts.

Ever tasted sheep sorrel, minty birch twigs, wild wintergreen, or cattail roots? Those I know, but there are many yet to learn.

It's for when I buy a little place up in the Northern Wilds. Coming soon, here's hoping...;-)

Reading takes on a special deep rich flavor up in the woods, in a cabin, by a wood stove: with starlight everywhere outdoors and balsam fir tree smell faintly ever-present in the air. It's been such a long time, really. Just a ways yet more to go.

Bob Moss 06-24-2005 09:19 PM

Re: What are you?
 
I came out as Enterpriser, but WTF: "Enterprisers are also the strongest backers of an assertive foreign policy, which includes nearly unanimous support for the war in Iraq and strong support for such anti-terrorism efforts as the Patriot Act." Nooooo.

Bob

Matty 06-25-2005 09:31 AM

Re: What are you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I came out as Enterpriser, but WTF: "Enterprisers are also the strongest backers of an assertive foreign policy, which includes nearly unanimous support for the war in Iraq and strong support for such anti-terrorism efforts as the Patriot Act." Nooooo.

Bob

[/ QUOTE ]They mean percentage-wise so Yessssssss.

ACPlayer 06-25-2005 11:49 AM

Re: What are you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
ack now to the current topic: it seems to me that "liberals" and "downbeat" tend to go together a bit more than the flip side go together: would you agree? (not a trick question, and "downbeat" is here meant as a rather pessimistic outlook).

[/ QUOTE ]

Not according to this survey site. As a test, I changed my answer for the first question from strongly agree to statement 2 to strongly agree to statement 1 and the calculation flipped between Liberal and Upbeat. This was done holding every other answer constant.

So, you and Andy are not far apart, are both basically liberal and upbeat.

hetron 06-25-2005 11:59 AM

Who knew?
 
Poker players are such a bunch of liberals.
And I am not sure what this means, but :

[ QUOTE ]

This group has nearly doubled in proportion since 1999, Liberals now comprise the largest share of Democrats and is the single largest of the nine Typology groups.


[/ QUOTE ]

So much for liberalism being dead in the US, huh?

Cyrus 06-26-2005 12:54 PM

...To which the conservatives will respond
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

This group has nearly doubled in proportion since 1999. Liberals now comprise the largest share of Democrats and is the single largest of the nine Typology groups.


[/ QUOTE ]

So much for liberalism being dead in the US, huh?

[/ QUOTE ]

Hell, this is also why the number of fish at the tables has doubled since 1999!

Well, let 'em think that. I know where the money is coming in from.

Warchant88 06-26-2005 07:26 PM

Re: ...To which the conservatives will respond
 
Politics have nothing to do with the ability to play sound poker.

Talk2BigSteve 06-27-2005 09:19 AM

Re: What are you?
 
Wow!!! I would have never considered myself Conservative in anything. But according to the test I am a conservative Deomocrat.

Steve

Matty 06-27-2005 12:47 PM

Re: Who knew?
 
[ QUOTE ]
So much for liberalism being dead in the US, huh?

[/ QUOTE ]Where the bloody hell did you get that impression from? Find a new news source that really knows what a "liberal" is.

JoshuaD 06-27-2005 01:46 PM

Re: What are you?
 
I came out as liberal, but I don't see how.

[ QUOTE ]
Strongest preference for diplomacy over use of military force. Pro-choice, supportive of gay marriage and strongly favor environmental protection. Low participation in religious activities. Most sympathetic of any group to immigrants as well as labor unions, and most opposed to the anti-terrorism Patriot Act.

[/ QUOTE ]

I selected the pro-miliatry options and the anti-environment options. They didn't ask me about abortion. I'm only "liberal" by their definition when it comes to SSM and religion.

My bet is this poll is slanted toward liberal to attempt to convince people to vote liberal.

Q E D.

shots 06-27-2005 01:54 PM

Re: What are you?
 
I also think this poll is suspect what's with the questions about your financial situation? Does having or not having money make you a liberal or an enterpriser? It might influence your political leanings but I don't see why it would be calculated in a test intended to look at what your political leanings are.

James Boston 06-27-2005 01:59 PM

Re: What are you?
 
Disaffected

That makes sense as far as my attitude towards government goes, but the description of the typical "disaffected" person is not a very accurate description of me.

HtotheNootch 06-27-2005 05:40 PM

Re: What are you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Disaffected

That makes sense as far as my attitude towards government goes, but the description of the typical "disaffected" person is not a very accurate description of me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Too true. I loved all the assumptions that were just blatantly wrong about people who are dissatisfied with the current path of the US.

[censored] 06-27-2005 06:30 PM

Re: What are you?
 
I am going to guess enterpriser. I'll take the test now and edit in my results then complete the poll. I could also be social conservative.

Edit for results
Enterpriser.

whiskeytown 06-27-2005 06:50 PM

Re: What are you?
 
lot of liberals on this poll -

I'm one of them [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] - though I would define myself as more of a progressive -

RB

PoBoy321 06-27-2005 08:04 PM

Re: What are you?
 
Wow! I'm a liberal! I had no idea!

The Dude 06-27-2005 09:44 PM

Re: What are you?
 
I came out an upbeat.

hetron 06-27-2005 10:34 PM

Re: Who knew?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
So much for liberalism being dead in the US, huh?

[/ QUOTE ]Where the bloody hell did you get that impression from? Find a new news source that really knows what a "liberal" is.

[/ QUOTE ]

I was responding to some of the comments made by some right wing posters on this forum, not to anything i have ever seen in the media.


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