What leak has cost you the most $$ in SnGs?
 

Mine is probably calling/raising all in on the bubble with a Ax after a tight (enough) player bets preflop ahead of me .

What has cost you the most?

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Probably not accumulating chips early.

I looked at another 2+2ers VPIP/PFR on all levels the other day and the were so different it was retarded.

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not being 18 i guess.

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Being too tight at all levels is by far the most costly of my leaks looking back. Starting to get it fixed though.

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Losing coinflips on the bubble.

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Can you elaborate a bit please?
Since it is pretty widely accepted around 2+2 that tight is correct strategy early. With late game being far more aggressive, and HU equally if not more so. I am interested to hear how & where you feel this is your biggest leak.

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I was too tight early giving up opportunities to gain chips. This is of course a smaller leak than the big one, being too tight levels 4+/ITM/HU.

I do think one shouldn't underestimate the importance of playing good poker levels 1-3 though. If you go into level 4 with 75 more chips on average with tight instead of supertight strategy, it will definately have an impact on your ROI.

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Making random donk plays I know are wrong way more often than any decent player should. (I suppose that would be called tilting)

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Calling with AA and getting sucked out on. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Moving up. Ugh.

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Golf

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Making random donk plays I know are wrong way more often than any decent player should. (I suppose that would be called tilting)

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yeah, thats probably mine too. Every now and then I do something unbelievably stupid. Good news is that it is getting far less frequent.

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MTTs.

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MTTs.

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I can't stay away from them. Even though I'm up on them.

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Playing in hands from the blinds.

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touche

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Corona.

Onaflag.......

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I was too tight early giving up opportunities to gain chips. This is of course a smaller leak than the big one, being too tight levels 4+/ITM/HU.

I do think one shouldn't underestimate the importance of playing good poker levels 1-3 though. If you go into level 4 with 75 more chips on average with tight instead of supertight strategy, it will definately have an impact on your ROI.

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unless you know how to get those chips back later on [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Overplaying 77-TT on the early levels

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Being overaggressive in levels 4+ in low-buyin games. When I first started playing SNGs, I was far too passive. When I started learning the math behind them, I was hell-bent on taking every +EV opportunity, no matter how marginal. Well, considering that $11 players are apt to suddenly spite call with crap (usually better than my crap) if they they think you're bluffing, I was running somewhere around 35% ITM with a crap ROI.

Once I realized that I really needed to just chill at times, and sometimes pass up on +EV opportunities for image purposes, my ROI shot up. Also, my ITM climbed considerably.

Current leak being worked on? Heads-up issues.

EDIT: Forgot to add one: "Always play for first" was a huge leak that I've since plugged.

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EDIT: Forgot to add one: "Always play for first" was a huge leak that I've since plugged.

Is that a really a leak or is it more of a variance monster? I've found that my long-term return makes up for the hellish swings. I'm having lotsa 4ths and lotsa 1sts.

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My leak is playing too tight in the middle/late game when I'm in the middle of a craptacular week (or two) (or three). Which only compounds the problem.

A related problem is playing higher than my bankroll wants me to play.

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Two things:

1. Not pushing enough on or near the bubble.
2. Broken luckbox.

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EDIT: Forgot to add one: "Always play for first" was a huge leak that I've since plugged.

Is that a really a leak or is it more of a variance monster? I've found that my long-term return makes up for the hellish swings. I'm having lotsa 4ths and lotsa 1sts.

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Well, let me clarify. Of course you play for first as much as you can, but sometimes it's just not appropriate. Consider a hand such as this:

Buyin: $11s-$33s

Blinds 100/200

UTG: t200
You: t1200
SB: t4000
BB: t2600

UTG folds, you look down and see A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. BB has been reasonably tight, but SB has been prone to make loose calls.

While ATo is probably the best hand preflop here, the correct move is to fold. If you push and double up here, you have a legitimate run at first. However, UTG blinds off his whole stack next hand. Pushing this might be +cEV, but is definitely -$EV.

This is probably obvious to anyone that plays SNGs a lot, but I just wanted to give mention to this type of hand. This is a type of hand that requires you to concentrate on getting ITM first, instead of going for a win.

EDIT: Changed AJo to ATo for a more clear example. Also, added buyin level.

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in a 55+ im still shoving this more than likely. its different when making a call, but pushing, ill do it almost all day. holla

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in a 55+ im still shoving this more than likely. its different when making a call, but pushing, ill do it almost all day. holla

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Alright, I should have specified buyin. We're talking $11s-$33s full of donks. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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well, im not so sure then [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] i suppose if they are calling every 2, then its a fold. holla

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raising with AQs or AK, then making 125/150 continuation bet on missed flop into a field of 3-4 people... lol (sometimes it works!!)

I tend to overplay AQs in general early.. which is odd cuz i fold AJ and A10 like the plague..

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raising with AQs or AK, then making 125/150 continuation bet on missed flop into a field of 3-4 people... lol (sometimes it works!!)

I tend to overplay AQs in general early.. which is odd cuz i fold AJ and A10 like the plague..

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you have bigger ones than that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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biggest sng leak.. hmm.. honestly? playing above the roll, and being TOO agressive on the bubble. not so bad i guess, but can make swings pretty huge, especially 12 tabling. holla

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...coming home from bar. Fire up 4 tables to "wind down". Forget about them. Go to bed. Wake up. Log into account. "wow i thought i had more than that". Ohhhh yeeeaahhh. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] D'oh. Easiest way to drop 4 BI.

(also, i *wish* i could say i only did this once. sadly that is not the case.)

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that's a pretty bad one limpin

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being TOO aggressive on the bubble and raising crap in spite of the fact that my table image will demand people start calling me with all sorts of hands.

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I think pushing in this spot is goofy. Play for the money first, glory second.

Mine: Getting too arrogant and prideful and getting my money in the middle in crappy situations.

e.g. Early on in a SnG, raising an appropriate raise with JJ while playing tight. Getting raised with an all-in from another tight player and not mucking. Doesn't he understand I have Jacks?! It's a great hand! Bullshit. Let him win the small pot.

- Jim

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Getting sucked out by other players cards hitting when I am a favorite - AA over any other pair, pair over ace rag, etc.

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Overvaluing my folding equity and generally playing too aggressively on the bubble (and bubble + 1). Often has cost me the difference between a very likely first or second and stumbling into third or fourth.

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What has cost you the most?

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WSOP satellites

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"What leak has cost you the most $$ in SnGs?"

Playing in anything but a SnG...i dont know why, but this tournament style works out extremely well for me. I cant play ring to save my life.

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TV.

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- trying to steal from loose callers
- blowing my online profit at a casino