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[censored] 06-15-2005 05:48 AM

Batman Begins
 
Just got back from seeing Batman Begins. This movie was awesome, by far and I mean by far the best Batman movie ever. The movie stayed very close to the feel of The Dark Knight comics. This was one of the best movies I have seen in quite some time and probably the best comic book movie.

I really hope the writer and director continue the saga.

Fans of Batman, see this movie.

toss 06-15-2005 06:41 AM

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Cool, I have one question. Do the graphics get sorta cartoony like Spiderman?

scrub 06-15-2005 06:49 AM

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Just got back from seeing Batman Begins. This movie was awesome, by far and I mean by far the best Batman movie ever. The movie stayed very close to the feel of The Dark Knight comics. This was one of the best movies I have seen in quite some time and probably the best comic book movie.

I really hope the writer and director continue the saga.

Fans of Batman, see this movie.

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Saw the midnight showing with Evan and Catch Of The Day. Crazed Berkeley moviegoers cheered wildly at inexplicable moments during the movie: "Hey, it's the first time he's swung through the air YEAHHHHHH!!!!!! .....Hey, it's the first time he's swung through the air while carrying someone... YEAHHHHHH!!!!!!! ....Hey..."

It was uneven, but better than all non-Burton Batmans.

The action sequences were incoherent--the usual strobe-light editing of extremely close shots. The pre-Gotham section was particularly bad.

The Scarecrow was perfectly executed.

Christian Bale looks like a mad-scientist decided to fuse Val Kilmer and Tom Cruise. Unsettling.

I'm not sure that I buy Alfie as Alfred.

The movie suffered from a severe shortage of little Joey Potter.

scrub

AEKDBet 06-15-2005 08:20 AM

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Cool, I have one question. Do the graphics get sorta cartoony like Spiderman?

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Negative.

LALDAAS 06-15-2005 12:48 PM

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I am going to see it on the IMAX on saturday

howzit 06-15-2005 12:52 PM

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i'm going to steal this idea.

jnalpak 06-15-2005 12:56 PM

What about THE GIFT?
 
What about Katie Holmes? Do you get to see nuddie's as the sample given in THE GIFT???

pshreck 06-15-2005 03:01 PM

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It was good, but surprisingly Liam Neeson doesn't do villain very well at all. We are sympathizing with him for most of the movie, and never really fear/hate him (at least I didn't).

Cillian Murphy though was amazing as scarecrow.

Bale is probably the best batman yet. Not to say Keaton sucked, but he was a little too typecast as a softy/comedic guy to ever fit the dark role of Bruce Wayne well. Kilmer and Clooney were laughable.

istewart 06-15-2005 03:02 PM

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Batman Returns was clearly the pwn.

davelin 06-15-2005 03:04 PM

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It was good, but surprisingly Liam Neeson doesn't do villain very well at all.

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Hope this isn't a spoiler...isn't he a good guy in the movie?

Pocket Trips 06-15-2005 03:05 PM

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I am gonna wait till next weekend to see it... Will be in AC and it is playing in the IMAX theater at the trop

pshreck 06-15-2005 03:07 PM

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It was good, but surprisingly Liam Neeson doesn't do villain very well at all.

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Hope this isn't a spoiler...isn't he a good guy in the movie?

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He's whatever you want him to be?

gamblore99 06-16-2005 01:28 AM

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Wow. This movie is ridiculously good. Way better than any other batman movie, and better than almost any other regular movie.

holeplug 06-16-2005 01:58 AM

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I was surprised just how good this movie turned out to be. There was almost nothing in it that I hated. Bale was very good the entire movie and the acting as a whole was very good as well.

I thought the fight scenes were pretty good. It looked like they tried to put the viewer in the place of the person getting beat up. It sorta mirros the confustion the people were feeling.

And I hope the tumbler stays. Great car.

Reef 06-16-2005 02:47 AM

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Wow. This movie is ridiculously good. Way better than any other batman movie, and better than almost any other regular movie.

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are the reviews so biased b/c the other batmans sucked so badly?

imported_CaseClosed326 06-16-2005 03:00 AM

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I thought it was pretty good. I was assuming that Bale would suck it up though. Better than I thought it would be, I don't know if that means it was good, it did beat my expectations though.

ChoicestHops 06-16-2005 03:03 AM

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What about Katie Holmes? Do you get to see nuddie's as the sample given in THE GIFT???

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Or do we get to see her break out with her cold sores?

Rottentomatoes has this at 82%, Im going to see it soon.

wacki 06-16-2005 03:06 AM

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Or do we get to see her break out with her cold sores?

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ChoicestHops 06-16-2005 03:10 AM

Re: What about THE GIFT?
 
I dont know if it's herpes or not, but it's still pretty gross. I hope this picture works.

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/107316.jpg

wacki 06-16-2005 03:13 AM

Re: What about THE GIFT?
 
just curious, how old are you?

ChoicestHops 06-16-2005 03:15 AM

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20, why?

diddle 06-16-2005 04:04 AM

Re: Batman Begins
 
sweet [censored] movie

KaneKungFu123 06-16-2005 04:29 AM

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all comic movies ive ever seen were unwatchable. absolutely horible, and i am sure this movie will follow in order.

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Just got back from seeing Batman Begins. This movie was awesome, by far and I mean by far the best Batman movie ever. The movie stayed very close to the feel of The Dark Knight comics. This was one of the best movies I have seen in quite some time and probably the best comic book movie.

I really hope the writer and director continue the saga.

Fans of Batman, see this movie.

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Popinjay 06-16-2005 04:41 AM

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Saw this movie tonight and loved it. Anyone else see a lot of philosophy in there? Some Nietzsche perhaps? Probably other guys too that I haven't read yet...

bort411 06-16-2005 05:29 AM

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Saw this tonight and thought it sucked in pretty much every way imaginable. I will preface this by stating that I have never read any comic book in my life, and my only knowledge of Batman comes from the 5 previous films, and the campy 60's TV show.

The action sequences were cluttery, dark, and difficult to follow. Most of the shots had twelve guys fighting in a close zoom, and it was unclear which was actually Batman or what he was doing to win the fight.

The writing was terribly weak. Two moments that especially stood out: 1. Alfred expanding on the ridiculously overdone Wayne family legacy, explaining how they actually were conductors on the underground railroad (despite the fact that Gotham is mentioned as being on an island...why would the underground railroad briefly leave the mainland?) in addition to their other numerous charitable works. 2. When Batman and Gary Oldman meet toward the end of the film, and explain to each other very clearly and elaborately what exactly is happening, so that the audience understands what is going on and doesn't realize that this plot is needlessly confusing and elaborate.

The villians suck; a pseudo terrorist and the Scarecrow, who as far as I can tell is the 8th best Batman villian and who doesn't seem to have any special abilities.

When did Batman become schooled in the ways of Ninjas/Samauris? Why? There was a lot of East-Asian culture/philosophy erraticly interjected throughout the film, with no coherent themes.

The whole Batman borrowing/stealing/buying his equipment thing didn't work for me. What made Batman cool was the impression that he spent all of his free time developing these crazy gadgets; here he does nothing special for his equipment.

The ending of this movie sucked hardcore balls. Why would they tie it to the first Burton movie, when everything about it was different, especially the death of Wayne's parents? Are they trying to remind me how awesome Jack Nicholson was as the actual murderer of Wayne's parents, even though he really didn't? Or are they actually going to hire another actor in a future film to butcher the Joker?

I suppose what bothered me most was inferiority. Michael Keaton was simply fantastic in his two films. People overlook this. Bale is an excellent actor, but I preferred Keaton (I think Bale's "Batman" husky voice was a tadd overdone and irritating). The action sequences ruined this film for me, with Tim Burton doing a much better job showing what Batman was actually fighting and how. The Elfman score, accompanied by the Prince originals, was awesome in Burton's first film, and pisses all over the score of this film. Nicholson, DeVito, and Walken were all brilliant compared to the scrubs in this movie. Was I supposed to fear the maniacal capabilities of the Scarecrowe? To me, he was just a tweaker with a hose up his sleeve.

I apologize for the length of this, but this film really bothered me. People were actually clapping at the end of it and I just couldn't believe my ears.

fsuplayer 06-16-2005 08:50 AM

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The action sequences were cluttery, dark, and difficult to follow. Most of the shots had twelve guys fighting in a close zoom, and it was unclear which was actually Batman or what he was doing to win the fight.

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(I think Bale's "Batman" husky voice was a tadd overdone and irritating).

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ArchAngel71857 06-16-2005 09:49 AM

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Are they trying to remind me how awesome Jack Nicholson was as the actual murderer of Wayne's parents, even though he really didn't? Or are they actually going to hire another actor in a future film to butcher the Joker?



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Actually this movie correctly identifies the killer of Wayne's parents. It has changed a lot over the years, but it's traditionally been JOe Chill, not the Joker as in Burton's film.

This movie was awesome, except for the part where Christian Bale talked in a raspy voice as Batman. That was dumb.

-AA

jakethebake 06-19-2005 03:21 PM

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Great movie. I'm not aure why anyone was bothered by Batman's voice. I didn't even notice that. My only negative would be the fight choreography. The director seemed to not really know how to choreograph a fight scene so instead he just made everything move really fast from a zillion angles so you couldn't really see anything.

ThaSaltCracka 06-19-2005 03:29 PM

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I liked this movie a lot. My only problem was that there wasn't really a cool villian like in the other films. Overall, I liked the darkness of the film. It seemed less cartoony then the previous films. I also thought Caine and Freeman were great in the film. Bale was a great Batman as well. I think he was better than Keaton, but only by a hair. I hope they make some more films with this director and ensemble cast. Although, Katie Holms sorta sucked in the film. She was basically a cute face. Also, I saw nipples sticking through a shirt.

stabn 06-19-2005 03:46 PM

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It was hard to buy her as someone who had graduated from law school and had already become an ADA. Other than her i also thought the movie was great.

SmileyEH 06-19-2005 03:47 PM

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The three comic book movies I've really liked were the spidermans and batman begins. In all of them I hated the female characters - I don't get anything out of seeing a pretty face when I want some cool fight scenes and over the top drama. Katie Holmes was definitely the worst part of the movie.

-SmileyEH

ThaSaltCracka 06-19-2005 03:51 PM

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It was hard to buy her as someone who had graduated from law school and had already become an ADA. Other than her i also thought the movie was great.

[/ QUOTE ]FWIW, I liked this movie a million times more than Spidy 2.

tbach24 06-19-2005 03:53 PM

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It was hard to buy her as someone who had graduated from law school and had already become an ADA. Other than her i also thought the movie was great.

[/ QUOTE ]FWIW, I liked this movie a million times more than Spidy 2.

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Spidy 2 is the most overrated comic movie ever.

ThaSaltCracka 06-19-2005 03:54 PM

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yes it is. In fact, I thought the second one sucked ass.

billyjex 06-19-2005 03:57 PM

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cool movie. i agree w/ jake about the fight scenes, i hate when they make them like that, and katie holmes is a horrible actor. otherwise, thumbs up.

Sponger15SB 06-19-2005 03:58 PM

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Wow. This movie is ridiculously good. Way better than any other batman movie, and better than almost any other regular movie.

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are the reviews so biased b/c the other batmans sucked so badly?

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Chill out

http://www.moviejuice.com/1997/images/MR_FREEZE.jpg

most of the other batman movies ruled

ThaSaltCracka 06-19-2005 04:03 PM

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^^^^^^ worst one of all.

Blarg 06-19-2005 04:20 PM

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Good review.

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The action sequences were cluttery, dark, and difficult to follow. Most of the shots had twelve guys fighting in a close zoom, and it was unclear which was actually Batman or what he was doing to win the fight.

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That part weas disappointing to read, but lousy fight scenes are still the accepted norm in American movies after all these years, so even though they disappointment me ever time, I've come to expect nothing better than a talentless rendering whenever I see a fight scene. Such a shame that there's no real ambition to them.

stabn 06-19-2005 04:22 PM

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^^^^^^ worst one of all.

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correct.

geormiet 06-19-2005 04:26 PM

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I thought that this was a decent movie, but everything you said in this review rings true for me. Michael Keaton still the best batman!


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