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i have a question about whether or not you think it is reasonable to play by the extra odds you could use. i'll show you what odds i mean in this example. say your in an 8 handed game and you get king nine and fold preflop. You watch the flop, turn and river and none of them are King or nine. say in a few hands you get king nine again. would you think that your odds of hitting your cards are better this time because last time you didn't hit?

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I agree.

Unless you factor in that with the second hand, you cap your cards with your lucky card cover. This will increase your chances of hitting your hand.

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would the deck be shuffled corretly or the cards placed back on underneath. if the cards that you just used were placed right underneath. You know for a fact that 2 of your outs are at the bottom and you old another 2 of your outs. But if the deck is shuffled properly i doubt there would be a slight edge. its like getting back to back same pockets.. people will think they will set this time.

-sinful... you could ask the probability category

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Only if you put the first K 9 in your pocket and can slip them unobtrusively onto the board.

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One day this guy flipped a coin and it came up heads, then bet me $1000 it would be heads again...I knew tails was due since it didn't come up last time, and sure enough I won the $1000. Moral of the story: If you call the second time you'll flop the full house.

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Wow... After reading the initial post, I just couldn't wait to see the slew of sarcastic responses you guys would post. I'm just glad you didn't let me down =D

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thanks guys i think i get it

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wow I'm glad to see that there is finally a forum out there where people can ask questions and get honest responses. It nice to see there is a place where someone doesn't have to worry about ub3r forum geeks giving them a hard time because they believe the question is below them. The guy had a question, he obviously doesn't understand how odds work. Anyone want to explain why it doesn't work this way or should we find him and stone him for asking him?

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Welcome to the forum.

There are two other forums, Probability and Beginners, (look to the left side of the page, under "General Gambling") that you will find most helpful. Lots of basics are covered, usually with a straight, honest answer instead of smartassed comments.

As for your original question. The probability of any particular cards coming up on the flop has no relationship to the previous flops or your previous hands. Just like flipping a fair coin will give you on average 50% heads and 50% tails. You may land on heads 10 times in a row but the chances of you landing on tails the 11th time is still 50/50. The events are independant of each other, therefore the outcomes do not relate to each other.

regards,
Tim

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would you think that your odds of hitting your cards are better this time because last time you didn't hit?

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No. If anything, I would go the other way. If certain cards are not coming out much, I would tend to think they will continue to not come out much. One hand is not enough to determine if such a streak is occuring however, and determining when the end of the streak occurs is usually not easy to determine without some error.

I haven't really noticed when certain cards are not coming out much. I'm sure those streaks occur, but it is a lot easier to notice which cards are coming out a lot rather than notice which ones are not coming out much.

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What did you just say...?

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You're joking right? The order/sequence of cards dealt is RANDOM. You might believe in some cosmic ebb and flow of the universe where certain cards come in streaks. Obviously you're going to notice when K and 9 come on the flop twice in row. What about the other 99% of the time when it doesnt come twice in a row? Reads on players, betting patterns, there is a lot that carries over from hand to hand, odds of certain cards coming is not one of them. Any advice that says otherwise is just plain wrong. (Although I will admit to calling with T8s because its my "lucky hand.")

XXXNoahXXX

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That is correct. But in a random distribution, streaks occur. It is pretty easy to identify when a streak is occuring. The hard part is to know when it will end. One thing I've noticed is that streaks don't generally carry over from one table or session to another. That might be intuitive, but I'll mention it anyway.

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So-called streaks of cards in poker are not like winning streaks in baseball (Red Sox have won 7 in a row, so betting on them to win 8 might make sense, etc.). The funny thing about streaks of cards in poker is that by the time u notice them, too late, they've passed. Are u telling me that if 7 10 comes on the flop, then comes on the flop again two hands later, then you get dealt 7 10, ure going to adjust your preflop calling standards because 7 10 might be on a streak? That is insanity.