My BASIC guide to beating each level ($30/50/100/200\'s)
 

30+3:
1) Stay tight
2) If under 10BB, push/steal to survive if it's +EV (ie: use ICM).
3) Do not get fancy: No pvs, no impetus, no stop n go, etc. They will call.

50+5:
Same, except use fancy plays (albeit sparingly). Also, need some ability to play post flop, since you start off with 25% more chips than 30+3.

100+9:
- Same as 50+5, but also need reads, and recognize situations where there free chips for you to scoop up.
- Blinds also call min raises and 2.5BB raises alot more.

200+15:
Play like Gigabet=> Fancy plays galore. It's not what cards you have, it's what you're representing. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Any other generalizations?

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i havent played the 50s really but i think the 109s and 215s play more alike then 109s and 55s would, but that is just a guess on real limited experience at 55s.

Re: My SIMPLE overview guides to beating 30\'s, 50\'s, 100\'s, and 200\'s
 

I think the people at the 30 + 3s are only slightly better than the people at the 5 + 1s, so yeah I think your 33 strategy is right on.

Re: My BASIC guide to beating each level ($30/50/100/200\'s)
 

I play $215's like your $33's.

Re: My SIMPLE overview guides to beating 30\'s, 50\'s, 100\'s, and 200\'s
 

You either haven't played the 5s, or havent played the 33s enough: they defitely don't play the same-- Iguarauntee that not a single poster will agree with you...

Re: My SIMPLE overview guides to beating 30\'s, 50\'s, 100\'s, and 200\'s
 

anything under 33 is a waist of time.

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anything under 33 is a waist of time.

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Yep, I've had a belly of them.

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anything under 33 is a waist of time.

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Heh, some of us have tuition to pay

Re: My BASIC guide to beating each level ($30/50/100/200\'s)
 

It's still possible to make a profit playing <30+3's, so I don't see why they're a waste of time if your not willing to risk 30+3 per game, and trying to walk before you can run.

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"anything under 33 is a waist of time."

$33s are a waste of time...

Re: My BASIC guide to beating each level ($30/50/100/200\'s)
 

I think the KEY to everything is:

2) If under 10BB, push/steal to survive if it's +EV (ie: use ICM).

Obviously you push when you have good cards. but MOST of the time you're going to get junk. ALOT more often than not, you'll get blinded out if you're just going to wait for a good hand, or even an ok hand, to push with.

Understand +EV. Then you'll know when it's correct to push with 59o, and you'll maximize your chances of making ITM.

Re: My BASIC guide to beating each level ($30/50/100/200\'s)
 

IMO reads are extremely important at every level. I mean...reads are so central to what poker is....once you have a read, many if not most Party-SnG decisions are conceptually trivial.

Re: My BASIC guide to beating each level ($30/50/100/200\'s)
 

I'm in transition to the 50s - can you expand on what you mean by fancy plays. HHs would be good.

Re: My BASIC guide to beating each level ($30/50/100/200\'s)
 

i play the 10's (yeah, im new and cheap) and lately ive realized that 95% of the time the small percentage of hands that i do play involve little to no flop action

Re: My BASIC guide to beating each level ($30/50/100/200\'s)
 

"fancy plays"

Re: My BASIC guide to beating each level ($30/50/100/200\'s)
 

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IMO reads are extremely important at every level. I mean...reads are so central to what poker is....once you have a read, many if not most Party-SnG decisions are conceptually trivial.

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I agree 100%. My play at the 33s has improved markedly since I've dropped back to playing fewer tables in order to pick up reads.

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I'm in transition to the 50s - can you expand on what you mean by fancy plays. HHs would be good.

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Level 3, several limpers to you in the BB. You look down and see you have trash cards and a stack of t500. You push to pick up the pot (aka the PVS).

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anything under 33 is a waist of time.

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Heh, some of us have tuition to pay

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Gold.

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30+3:
1) Stay tight
2) If under 10BB, push/steal to survive if it's +EV (ie: use ICM).
3) Do not get fancy: No pvs, no impetus, no stop n go, etc. They will call.


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I hate to keep beating this dead horse, but stop and goes work better at the lower levels than the upper levels, not the other way around.

At the lower levels: Damn, I didn't get my A or K. He must have something, he's putting all his chips in the pot. What are the chances I'll get an Ace or King on the turn. I better fold -- I don't want to lose another 300 chips.

At the higher levels: That bastard is pulling a stop and go on me. I'm calling his ass.

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reads are so central to what poker is

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What's poker? I play sit 'n go's.

dummy question
 

What is ICM?

Re: My BASIC guide to beating each level ($30/50/100/200\'s)
 

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30+3:
1) Stay tight
2) If under 10BB, push/steal to survive if it's +EV (ie: use ICM).
3) Do not get fancy: No pvs, no impetus, no stop n go, etc. They will call.


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I hate to keep beating this dead horse, but stop and goes work better at the lower levels than the upper levels, not the other way around.

At the lower levels: Damn, I didn't get my A or K. He must have something, he's putting all his chips in the pot. What are the chances I'll get an Ace or King on the turn. I better fold -- I don't want to lose another 300 chips.

At the higher levels: That bastard is pulling a stop and go on me. I'm calling his ass.

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This might be true. I wouldn't know as far as the upper levels go.

I will say that at the 10's and 20's, stop and go's seem to be an addiction with some players. I guess it's one of the first "fancy plays" a lot of people get exposed to and want to try out. I wouldn't be surprised if many people make calls specifically to try it. An ace or king doesn't come out on the flop, and boom, in go 200 or 300 chips UTG instantly. Call and you find out the guy had nothing. People at lower level love exhibiting Fancy Play Syndrome.

Re: My BASIC guide to beating each level ($30/50/100/200\'s)
 

That's because it actually works. Stop and goes are not working too often, but pushing preflop really doesn't work at all. You don't need to represent anything special for it to work, and your opponent doesn't need give you a lot of credit.