4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

Hi,

My girlfriend currently has a winrate of 4.5BB/100 at 0.50/1.00 limit. She's feeling really confindent. I told her that if she was making money after 10,000 hands she should feel good, but we'd still have no idea how profitable she was. At what point do we know what her long term expectation is per 100 hands? I heard it was 100,000 hands.

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

I think its pretty safe to say she's pretty good at the 0.5/1.0 game.

Shouldn't you care more about what her long term expectation is at the next limit up rather than at the 0.5/1.00?

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

This is most likely an accurate reading of her WR.

I don't want to do any more CIs now that it's summer.

But:

u +- t* (sd/sqrt(n))

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

tell her to move up pronto.

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

I didn't realize 4.5/100 justified a move up ASAP. I thought it was just high enough to consider moving up, but I didn't think it meant she's missing out on a lot of extra profits by avoiding 1/2.

Also, I don't think she has much (if any) talent, she's just tight preflop and aggressive on the flop. The players are so bad at 0.50/1.00, a simple strategy such as this is profitable.

If no one objects, I'll let her know that she really ought to be moving to 1/2 as soon as she wants to. I play 2/4 currently. She's catching up!

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

maybe she ran hot, but its likely that she could beat the 1/2 game

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

Na dude, 4.5 is pretty damn good. Probably some of it was running well, but if she feels comfortable in moving up she probably should.

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

If you could play 100 000 hands without adjusting your style of play, then yea, that would give you a pretty good estimate of your expectation. However, 100 000 is a LOT of hands, and the way you played during the first 10 000 is probably considerably different than your style during the last 10 000. This is why it is extremely tough to accurately predict a winrate.

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4.5 is quite good. It is almost certainly better than that of most people posting or lurking here.

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

i think it's a great idea for like, 99% of people to go through 1/2 before 2/4.

but, 4.5BBB/100 over 32k hands sounds like enough game to take a shot at 2/4 if she has the roll.

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I didn't realize 4.5/100 justified a move up ASAP.


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4.5 is quite good. It is almost certainly better than that of most people posting or lurking here.

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Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

She needs to move up.

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Also, I don't think she has much (if any) talent

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You're an ass.

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Also, I don't think she has much (if any) talent, she's just tight preflop and aggressive on the flop.

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Sounds like you don't have much (if any) people skills...

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Also, I don't think she has much (if any) talent, she's just tight preflop and aggressive on the flop. The players are so bad at 0.50/1.00, a simple strategy such as this is profitable.

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So basically she is a TAG, destroying the micro's for a way above average wr, and you think she lacks any talent?

I think you need to stop by the psychology forum and see what they have to say about your judgement of your GF's play.

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

100 billion hands.

no, seriously, you won't want to play enough hands to have an accurate description of your winrate. if she's reasonably sure she plays OK, and has done that well at .5/1 so far, then I think she should give 1/2 a try. worst thing that happens is she hits a rough patch and moves back down to pwn fools at .5/1 with her 1200 BB bankroll.

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

What was your own win-rate at $0.5/$1?

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I didn't realize 4.5/100 justified a move up ASAP.


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4.5 is quite good. It is almost certainly better than that of most people posting or lurking here.

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i seem to remember -7.61/100 as the average loss from rake, so +4.5 is absolutely slaughtering the competition. 33k is kind of a lot of hands to be beating your opponents by 12bb/100. she should definitely move up.

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I didn't realize 4.5/100 justified a move up ASAP.


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4.5 is quite good. It is almost certainly better than that of most people posting or lurking here.

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i seem to remember -7.61/100 as the average loss from rake, so +4.5 is absolutely slaughtering the competition. 33k is kind of a lot of hands to be beating your opponents by 12bb/100. she should definitely move up.

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This rate of loss to the rake is wrong. If you look at your pokertracker stats your loss to the rake will be much less then your total won if you are winnign 4BB/100. It should be more like -1.5BB/100


Greg

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

why are u so mean to your girlfriend?

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why are u so mean to your girlfriend?

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He doesn't want her to get better than him.

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

Don't worry guys my girlfriend doesn't read so she'll never know that I said she has no talent.

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What was your own win-rate at $0.5/$1?

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2,807 hands -0.01BB/100 hands. The total loss was $38.42. Obviously, I was too talented for the idiots who'd outdraw me with every piece-of-[censored] hand you can imagine. I quickly moved up.

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2,807 hands -0.01BB/100 hands. The total loss was $38.42. Obviously, I was too talented for the idiots who'd outdraw me with every piece-of-[censored] hand you can imagine.

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Obviously.

I'll also say what your deepest fears may suspect is true, your girlfriend is quite possibly a better poker player than you.

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2,807 hands -0.01BB/100 hands. The total loss was $38.42. Obviously, I was too talented for the idiots who'd outdraw me with every piece-of-[censored] hand you can imagine.

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Obviously.

I'll also say what your deepest fears may suspect is true, your girlfriend is quite possibly a better poker player than you.

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I concur.

Re: 4.5 BB/100 after 32,000 hands @ $0.5/$1.00 (is she any good?)
 

No offense, as I take it this post is made somewhat in jest, but if you don't know if she's ready to move up, and you think she has littlt to no talent with a 4BB WR, and she only plays tight/aggressive poker, then maybe you need to move down.

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2,807 hands -0.01BB/100 hands. The total loss was $38.42. Obviously, I was too talented for the idiots who'd outdraw me with every piece-of-[censored] hand you can imagine.

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Obviously.

I'll also say what your deepest fears may suspect is true, your girlfriend is quite possibly a better poker player than you.

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I concur.

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yep, possibly by a good margin too

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No offense, as I take it this post is made somewhat in jest,

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It's definitely starting to look like it's a joke thread.

Which makes the OP either a) Pathetic for starting a thread to make some lame joke that no one gets (or thinks is funny), or b) Even more pathetic if he's serious.

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Also, I don't think she has much (if any) talent, she's just tight preflop and aggressive on the flop.

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Can you suggest a better way of playing?

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Don't worry guys my girlfriend doesn't read so she'll never know that I said she has no talent.

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2,807 hands -0.01BB/100 hands. The total loss was $38.42. Obviously, I was too talented for the idiots who'd outdraw me with every piece-of-[censored] hand you can imagine. I quickly moved up.

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confirmed.. you are an ass. this thread is pointless.

i also imagine she's a better player than you and my conclusion has nothing to do w/ the posted winrates.

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Also, I don't think she has much (if any) talent, she's just tight preflop and aggressive on the flop.

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Sounds like you don't have much (if any) people skills...

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Your play, brilliant, in my opinion.

-d

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why are u so mean to your girlfriend?

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He doesn't want her to get better than him.

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