Raise this flop?
 

First orbit at the table so I'm readless...


Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>...


Raise or try to reel a few in?

Re: Raise this flop?
 

Raise. They'll call anyway.

errr... You're posting 2/4 in the microlimit forum so I'm not so sure about that after all.

Re: Raise this flop?
 

With this many guys behind you, I think there'll be at least one sucker back there. Raise.

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Want to cross post this to small stakes? I don't know the party 2/4 well enough to form an opinion.

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Fastplaying is the new slowplaying. Raise.

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Fastplaying is the new slowplaying.

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I don't understand.


I would raise.

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Fastplaying is the new slowplaying.

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I would raise.

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Fastplaying is the new slowplaying means that fastplaying is the best strategy in a lot of cases. You always hear people talking about slowplaying monsters, but most of the time you should fastplay(raise in this situation) your good hands because you will get lots of coldcallers anyway, and you will make more money this way. Calling the flop on a paired board and then raising(or check-raising) the turn is also the standard play for most players who flop trips, and lots of people are aware of this. I like raising here because no one will put you on trips right away.

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I guess I always figured 2/4 was the grey area between micros and small stakes, but it sounds like people want this one posted upstairs.

FWIW, I think 2/4 plays very similar to .5/1 on Party, especially at the jackpot tables (where this was played) so all the regular assumptions about players apply.

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Fastplaying is the new slowplaying means that fastplaying is the best strategy in a lot of cases. You always hear people talking about slowplaying monsters, but most of the time you should fastplay(raise in this situation) your good hands because you will get lots of coldcallers anyway, and you will make more money this way. Calling the flop on a paired board and then raising(or check-raising) the turn is also the standard play for most players who flop trips, and lots of people are aware of this. I like raising here because no one will put you on trips right away.

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Well yeah I agree with all of this but fastplaying (well, rarely slowplaying) has always been the standard line for good flops on these forums. It's not really new or anything.

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I like raising here because no one will put you on trips right away

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Really? I would think most people would put you squarely on trips if you raised here. What else would you have other than a flush draw?

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I like raising here because no one will put you on trips right away

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Really? I would think most people would put you squarely on trips if you raised here. What else would you have other than a flush draw?

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Most bad players don't make a strong effort to put others on hands (or at least and effort to do it well). So what you're representing isn't as huge of a deal. Most players will slowplay flopped trips - and everyone knows that. As I remember BisonBison saying once "Disguise your hand by raising."

Re: Raise this flop?
 

since you are readless I think raising is standard assuming you have good table selection.

But all situations depends on the players left to act and how big the pot is. In this case the pot is small so trying to keep players in wouldn't be horrible unless you know the players behind you are very loose and will call 2 cold.

Re: Raise this flop?
 

With the weak kicker and two hearts on the board, I go ahead and raise and thank the poker gods for a lucky flop.

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Meh. 2/4 is definitely a gray area between the two sections. Posting hands you think are likely to be on the simpler side here in the micros is just fine.

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Plus the Small Stakes forum kinda sucks so you might as well post here as long as you can.

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Plus the Small Stakes forum kinda sucks so you might as well post here as long as you can.

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I agree. Within a couple hours, stuff on the first page drops off to the 2nd or 3rd at small stakes. At least here its going to stay up for at least 24 hours.

I think it's all the new guys clogging up with "How to extract the most money" posts.

Re: Raise this flop?
 

easy raise. No sense letting someone draw to the flush cheaply (if it's out there). Get the money in while you have the best hand.

Re: Raise this flop?
 

Sorry to differ in opinion, but how about this.

You smooth call assuming SB will bet turn...then make your raise..

I don't know the tables you guys play on, but I don't know a lot of people will always cold call two bets...

You're not going to get a flush draw to fold..

Maybe .25/.50 or lower, but I think anything higher a lot of people will fold...

Rip me apart now if you please.