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O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 10:48 AM

My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
Hello All!

I am now 32 days into this challenge and it is safe to say that I will probably never feel the same aboout playing online poker again. Last week I reported this challenge had started to turn into to fun for me. After this week, I will be just very, very glad when this challenge is completed. Jane, get me off this crazy thing! (Obscure Jetson reference)

I got off track a little this week so I played late Saturday night and last night to get back on pace. This morning I am one exhausted man working this morning on about 5 hours of sleep. Playing while tired has definitely cost me. I feel if I had quit playing when I had wanted to, I would be easily up 3-4 times what I am now.(Unfortunately, not an option.) Both Saturday night and last night were big losers for me.

On the bright side, the talk around the house has went from "Why are you doing this?", to "Can you do this?", to now "What will you do with the money if you win it all?" Seriously, my wife and family have been great throughout this whole thing and very supportive.

Has this been worth it? Without a doubt, yes. It is true that I would have stand to win more money that what I am currently up over the past 32 days, but this still pales in comparison in the thrill and anticipation of playing in the WSOP.

My thoughts have started to drift about playing in the WSOP and when I complete this challenge I will have about three weeks to prepare myself. I have played just a few B & M tourneys, finishing in the money only once. Most of my multi-table tournament experience has been online where I have had some success. I have won two smaller tournaments online, (about $1700.00 in one and around $ 600.00 in another) finished 4th in a WSOP qualifier once, where they took the top two, had a few other final table finishes and have been in the money many times. In saying that though, I realize I will have little or no edge over anyone else playing in the WSOP. (And fact I realize that many, many players will have a huge edge on me due to my limited B & M tourney experience) I admit that even the infamous Granny Mae holds an edge over me. This is where I am asking for your all's help. With just three weeks to prepare for the WSOP, what steps should I take to improve my odds at the WSOP. (Book suggestions, links to excellent posts, any advice that you all could personally provide to me, would all be greatly appreciated.)

I wasn't quite as productive this week from a hand count standpoint playing 20,881 hands over 49 hours, an average of 426 hands per hour. Even with the drop in productivity, I was able to knock off three hours off my estimated hours to complete this challenge. I have always played alot of online poker, but it is a world of difference when you have to play. My heart goes out to the ones that are doing this for a living. (Especially the ones that are 8 tabling, grinding it out, playing 40-50 hours a week.)

Results so far:

Hands Needed: 120,000
Hands Played: 91,229
Hands Left: 28,771

Estimated Hours: 292
Hours Played: 222
Hours to go: 70

Winning/Losings: + 573.00

Projected date of challenge completed: June 14th

(This might be a little optimistic, it could be a day or two later, but I am going to shoot for it.)

AND FOLKS, please remember this is the original hand challenge to the WSOP. Please do not accept any cheap imitations!

SackUp 06-06-2005 10:55 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
Wow, you make a litte over $2/hour!

That's amazing! j/k.

I think this is pretty interesting. Have you read Harrington's book? Just master that in 3 weeks and you should be fine. You'll easily make the final table [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

GL gaming!

FlFishOn 06-06-2005 11:37 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
"In saying that though, I realize I will have little or no edge over anyone else playing in the WSOP"

Ten years ago you'd have been roadkill. Five years ago you'd have been avegage. Today, with the entire fish world winning entries you're above average. Now if you can get a horseshoe surgically implanted up your ass....

IggyWH 06-06-2005 11:42 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
Keep up the good work O Doyle. Didn't you have like 55 days to complete this? If that's the case it looks like you're ahead of schedule and should cruise on into the finish [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Care to share the amount of rake contributed by yourself so far?

O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 11:52 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Wow, you make a litte over $2/hour!


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Great! Not only I am dead tired, I am now depressed.(just kidding) I also like to factor in the value of the WSOP and the True Points I accumulating. If I do that, I am making about $ 50.00 an hour even with my anemic win rate.

O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 11:54 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Have you read Harrington's book? Just master that in 3 weeks and you should be fine. You'll easily make the final table [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

GL gaming!

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Thanks. I thought about purchasing it. Any reviews out there?

spamuell 06-06-2005 12:12 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Have you read Harrington's book? Just master that in 3 weeks and you should be fine. You'll easily make the final table [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

GL gaming!

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Thanks. I thought about purchasing it. Any reviews out there?

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I'm sure there are tons of great reviews, but, basically, it's a 2+2 book on no limit hold'em tournament strategy. You're about to play in a 10K buyin NLHE tournament which you've worked extremely hard to get into and you consider yourself a dog and would like to learn more about NLHE strategy. You'd have to be insane not to buy it.

Gallopin Gael 06-06-2005 12:57 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
And I think this Harrington guy knows a thing or two about playing in big tournements.

I'd snag parts one and two and have them delivered about the time you finish your challenge.

AAmaz0n 06-06-2005 01:18 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
Are you geographically near a place where you can play some live tourneys? It sounds like you will finish early so you make have some time to get a little live warm up in.

The thing that I notice most when going from live to online is the difference in time compression. It takes a while to get accustomed to how much slower things are and how much time you have to work with. There is just so much more time to put reads on folks. The downside is that online you don't have to hide your thoughts/feelings so much and it may take some practice to get your poker face on.

If you have some live play near you, the week or two before we leave would be a great time to put in some live action. I'm looking at the Bike's Mini Series of Poker as warm up here.

Good luck,

Shauna

O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 01:22 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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"In saying that though, I realize I will have little or no edge over anyone else playing in the WSOP"

Ten years ago you'd have been roadkill. Five years ago you'd have been avegage. Today, with the entire fish world winning entries you're above average. Now if you can get a horseshoe surgically implanted up your ass....

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Number one - How costly of procedure is this?

and Number two - How difficult will it be getting through the airport metal detectors when I go to Vegas.

Thanks, Fish. I didn't realize someone telling me that I am above average would make me feel better, (but it does)

O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 01:30 PM

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Keep up the good work O Doyle. Didn't you have like 55 days to complete this? If that's the case it looks like you're ahead of schedule and should cruise on into the finish [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Care to share the amount of rake contributed by yourself so far?

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Yea, I have to June 30th, but I wanted to be on a pace that would almost assure me of making it, trying to take into consideraton any medical or family emergency that might occur.

As far as the rake goes, I don't have a clue. I have mostly played $1/$2 and $ 25 NL, with some limits all the way up to $5/$10 thrown in.

Mr. True chimed in about this last week and for obvious reasons cares not to divulge that figure. I do believe that their rake collected is much less than if these hands were had been played on Party.

O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 01:55 PM

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Have you read Harrington's book? Just master that in 3 weeks and you should be fine. You'll easily make the final table [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

GL gaming!

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Thanks. I thought about purchasing it. Any reviews out there?

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I'm sure there are tons of great reviews, but, basically, it's a 2+2 book on no limit hold'em tournament strategy. You're about to play in a 10K buyin NLHE tournament which you've worked extremely hard to get into and you consider yourself a dog and would like to learn more about NLHE strategy. You'd have to be insane not to buy it.

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Well, I am a little mentally unbalanced, as I have proven that by taking on this challenge. With that said I think it is a no brainer to purchase this book along with vol. # 2.

grimel 06-06-2005 02:25 PM

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http://www.arma.nildram.co.uk/spirit...s/worship2.gif

Just remember, by playing 430 hands/hr for so long, you will have a MONSTER time to think advantage over everyone.

J_B 06-06-2005 03:00 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
what is/was the original challenge?

uuDevil 06-06-2005 03:22 PM

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Both Saturday night and last night were big losers for me.

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You need to flop more full houses when your opponent is holding AA! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 03:26 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Are you geographically near a place where you can play some live tourneys? It sounds like you will finish early so you make have some time to get a little live warm up in.

The thing that I notice most when going from live to online is the difference in time compression. It takes a while to get accustomed to how much slower things are and how much time you have to work with. There is just so much more time to put reads on folks. The downside is that online you don't have to hide your thoughts/feelings so much and it may take some practice to get your poker face on.

If you have some live play near you, the week or two before we leave would be a great time to put in some live action. I'm looking at the Bike's Mini Series of Poker as warm up here.

Good luck,

Shauna

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Thanks, Shauna.

Yea, I also had already thought about getting in some "live practice" due to the difference playing online vs. B & M.

I thought about making a road trip to the closest casino to play some live action. As far as tournies at the casino and around, I am not sure. I am also planning a WSOP "kick-off" party with family and friends and we might play a tourney for small stakes.

O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 03:33 PM

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http://www.arma.nildram.co.uk/spirit...s/worship2.gif

Just remember, by playing 430 hands/hr for so long, you will have a MONSTER time to think advantage over everyone.

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I am thinking by some token it might help me really focus on the other players at the table and help pick up any possible "tells" due to all the extra time I will have between hands. Also how I view the time speed of each hand vs. my opponents perception of how fast things are happening could be an advantage for me.

TheHammer24 06-06-2005 03:35 PM

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Have you read Harrington's book? Just master that in 3 weeks and you should be fine. You'll easily make the final table [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

GL gaming!

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Cloutier's and McEnvoy's Tournament NLHE book comes to mind. I haven't read it, but TJ has had a little success in NLHE tournaments. From what I have heard, it advises super tight strategy. You can't go wrong with a 2+2 book though so Harrington's may be better.

Just remember, when you play in B and M, that you will be playing 1 hand in the time it takes to play 15 or so hands 6-8 tabling online. Be patient and realize you don't make a move until you have too.

Best of luck man. You may have only played 3 B and M tournaments, but Moneymaker won his firs at the Main Event.

Thanks. I thought about purchasing it. Any reviews out there?

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O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 03:35 PM

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Hellmouth 06-06-2005 03:37 PM

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http://www.arma.nildram.co.uk/spirit...s/worship2.gif

Just remember, by playing 430 hands/hr for so long, you will have a MONSTER time to think advantage over everyone.

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I am thinking by some token it might help me really focus on the other players at the table and help pick up any possible "tells" due to all the extra time I will have between hands. Also how I view the time speed of each hand vs. my opponents perception of how fast things are happening could be an advantage for me.

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Since you will only be able to play one hand at a time I suggest (although you may already have thought of this) try to be very patient. 30 hands an hour can screw with you just as 400+ can. Wait for the good cards and dont get impatient.

Good Luck
Greg

Hung 06-06-2005 03:40 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
Estimated Hours: 292
Hours Played: 222
Hours to go: 70

Winning/Losings: + 573.00

This must be the reason why people like rakeback so much.
A lot of our money goes to rake and if you're a break even player you make a lot of money with rakeback.
anyway, nice job! I hope you wont be kicked out the first hand during the wsop
Poker stars has 700+ players qualifying for the series. It's a poker stars tournament LOL

O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 03:55 PM

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Both Saturday night and last night were big losers for me.

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You need to flop more full houses when your opponent is holding AA! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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That was a nice one, and yes I do.

What I really need is to do is focus on playing better poker, and not play when I'm tired, frustrated, or trying to play two year's worth of B & M hands in 40 days online.

uuDevil 06-06-2005 04:05 PM

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...not play when I'm tired, frustrated, or trying to play two year's worth of B & M hands in 40 days online.

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Unfortunately (?), that's what you signed up for. FWIW, you seem not to be getting paid off much (except maybe by me [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] ) because of how straight-forward you are forced to play.

You probably won't see me at your tables for a while, so I can honestly say: best of luck on the rest of your quest and make some money at the WSOP!

Tapin 06-06-2005 05:31 PM

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Since you will only be able to play one hand at a time I suggest (although you may already have thought of this) try to be very patient. 30 hands an hour can screw with you just as 400+ can. Wait for the good cards and dont get impatient.

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This is a key point -- I'd additionally add that if you catch yourself spending a lot of time after you fold playing "spot the pros", or looking around for service, etc, you will want to try to re-engage yourself in the game. It's going to be tough to avoid getting bored after downshifting from 8 hpm to .5 hpm, but the time when you're not in a hand is the absolute best time to be studying your opponents.

As practice, you might spend a few hours watching paint dry [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

(Seriously though, I'm still in awe and wish you the best of luck!)

Frequitude 06-06-2005 05:51 PM

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Jane, get me off this crazy thing! (Obscure Family Guy reference)

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That's all man, keep kickin' ass and takin' names.

O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 06:37 PM

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Unfortunately (?), that's what you signed up for.

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Hey Devil, you are exactly right, didn't mean to be a whiner, just trying to justify (rationalize) my puny winnings after so many hands.

Thanks for all the well wishes.

Sarge85 06-06-2005 06:48 PM

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FWIW, you seem not to be getting paid off much (except maybe by me [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] ) because of how straight-forward you are forced to play.



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Huh?

I don't get it. Straight Foward is where the money is.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 06:57 PM

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Be patient and realize you don't make a move until you have to.

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Wait for the good cards and don't get impatient.

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As practice, you might spend a few hours watching paint dry.

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Great advice from all. It does appear to me that the blind structure of the Main Event does award patient, solid play. The levels only change every two hours. If a person did not play a hand for the first two hours, they would have only lost 450 of their 10,000 chips.

Thanks Hammer, Hellmouth, & Tapin.

MicroBob 06-06-2005 06:58 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
Hey ODoyle. Keep up the hard work.
Look forward to perhaps meeting you there if you don't lose your vision and can somehow find your way around.


HOH is a GREAT book to get. I'm learning a lot from that book.
Volume 2 is out now so you may want to think about ordering that too.
Also check out the MTT and even the WPT forums.
Sklansky recently posted a tournament tactics question in WPT that got my brain jogging a bit on various ideas.
And some of the MTT threads are good too.


When I qualified for the PPM cruise I had even less live-tourney experience than you.
I had played in 2 live tourneys before that:
July, 2003 - $35 rebuy at Gold Strike, Tunica at 4am. Finished 26th out of 27.
Jan, 2005 - Single table satellite for $1k entry-chip at WPO in Tunica (to prelim event). Finished 5th out of 10.

Between these two tourneys I had less than 2 hours of live-tourney experience.


Before the cruise I played all kinds of different tournaments on Empire and Stars. I was espeically nervous because the PPM is a limit-tourney and I am less familiar with those.

Anyway, just playing tourneys online for 3-4 weeks or so...3 or 4 at a time...really helped my game. I learned to be patient and when to get aggressive and how to work with my short-stack and with my big-stack, etc etc.
It was especially helpful because I was also trying to rack-up the VIP points on Empire.
By week 3 or 4 of non-stop tourneys I was feeling REALLY good about my game and comfortable in all situations.


Obviously you might be too frazzled from your long stretch on True to do something like this...but it REALLY helped for me.


I finished 177th out of 740 on the cruise and won $5.2k. Again, I felt the online-tourneys that I played over and over again REALLY helped my comfortability in the live tourney.

Sherriff Fatman also posted about his first live-tourney experience somewhere in there several months back and what he did and thought going in. I'll try to find the link to that.


Finally - you don't seem to want to give away your location but I noticed your home-town on your TruePoker avatar (you can change it to 'none' if you like by just 'editing' your personal info).

I'm in Memphis now but grew up in Oxford, OH...went to Talawanda H.S. and then Miami (OH) University and then worked at Miami as well.
Have been to your home town on several occasions. Your high-school's soccer team always kicked our ass.



Good luck with your final 20k+ hands.
Have we confirmed that you also get to use all the true-points you are earning for a trip to the Bahamas or back to Vegas?? Or do you have to spend all the true-points for the WSOP trip??

IggyWH 06-06-2005 07:03 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Sorry for the minor hijack, but is it available in stores yet? I might have to check out the local book stores and pick up Vol 2.

Gallopin Gael 06-06-2005 07:25 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
Last I heard it was supposed to be back from the printers today and then going out. If any stores outside of Las Vegas have it I would be surprised.

From the Pre-orders thread:

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Update [Re: Mason Malmuth]
#2437234 - 05/19/05 10:55 PM

Hi Everyone:

HOH: VOLUME II has now gone to the printer. We expect to have books in hand on June 6.

Best wishes,
Mason

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O Doyle Rules 06-06-2005 09:46 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Good luck with your final 20k+ hands.
Have we confirmed that you also get to use all the true-points you are earning for a trip to the Bahamas or back to Vegas?? Or do you have to spend all the true-points for the WSOP trip??

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Hi Bob,

Thanks for all the words of encouragement, advice and support. I really appreciate all of it. The True points were never discussed but from True Poker CEO's post about them, he indicated what the value of them in cash would mean to me, so I don't see any reasons that they coudln't be used for any of the awards.

Normally, I wouldn't be responding to replys this time of night, but I keep getting kicked off TruePoker's site tonite due to connection issues. That's going to cut into the hand count. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

CountDuckula 06-06-2005 09:51 PM

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Jane, get me off this crazy thing! (Obscure Family Guy reference)

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? I'm not familiar with FG, but that certainly was a Jetsons reference. Did FG swipe it?

-Mike

cthomer5000 06-06-2005 10:01 PM

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? I'm not familiar with FG, but that certainly was a Jetsons reference. Did FG swipe it?

-Mike

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No, it was a full-blown Jetsons bit within the show. So it was clearly referencing the Jetsons, not stealing it.

grimel 06-06-2005 10:28 PM

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I wouldn't be responding to replys this time of night, but I keep getting kicked off TruePoker's site tonite due to connection issues.

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I'm actually, semi-glad to hear that, I had so many disconnects last time I played I just stopped playing TP for a bit. Hope it doesn't get you too far behind.

O Doyle Rules 06-07-2005 12:35 AM

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No, it was a full-blown Jetsons bit within the show. So it was clearly referencing the Jetsons, not stealing it.

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I wasn't aware of the Family Guy using the line in he show. I do remember Mike Myers using it in "I married an axe murderer."

My two favorite lines in that movie was spoken by Mike Myer's Scottish father in the movie. (played by Mike Myers as well)

They were: "Head!" (naturally a favorite for obvious reasons)

and of course: "Piper down! I repeat, we have a piper down!"

O Doyle Rules 06-07-2005 12:39 AM

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I wouldn't be responding to replys this time of night, but I keep getting kicked off TruePoker's site tonite due to connection issues.

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I'm actually, semi-glad to hear that, I had so many disconnects last time I played I just stopped playing TP for a bit. Hope it doesn't get you too far behind.

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Actually, I can't blame TruePoker, as I live in a rural area and the only high speed connection to the internet is satelite, which is well known for connection problems.

Pat Southern 06-07-2005 12:43 AM

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? I'm not familiar with FG, but that certainly was a Jetsons reference. Did FG swipe it?

-Mike

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No, it was a full-blown Jetsons bit within the show. So it was clearly referencing the Jetsons, not stealing it.

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I wasn't aware of the Family Guy using the line in he show. I do remember Mike Myers using it in "I married an axe murderer."

My two favorite lines in that movie was spoken by Mike Myer's Scottish father in the movie. (played by Mike Myers as well)

They were: "Head!" (naturally a favorite for obvious reasons)

and of course: "Piper down! I repeat, we have a piper down!"

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Don't forget his tirade about he Colonel. "Ay the Colonel, with his wee beedy eyes! He puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes you crave it night and day you smartass!" Sorry if I butchered it, its been too long since I've seen that movie.

uuDevil 06-07-2005 12:53 AM

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FWIW, you seem not to be getting paid off much (except maybe by me [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] ) because of how straight-forward you are forced to play.



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Huh?

I don't get it. Straight Foward is where the money is.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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You're right, of course. Maybe poor choice of words. But when even calling stations are folding to your bets and raises, maybe you've gone a bit too far....

It just seemed to me O'Doyle was avoiding situations where he wasn't a big favorite. In the hand I mentioned in a previous post, IIRC, he had QQ in EP while I had AA in LP. He flopped a FH and check-raised the turn. I think I should have 3-bet here, but did not because I suspected a monster. I think he's putting the fear of God into his opponents-- not always a good thing in poker, but probably unavoidable considering what he's doing.

Of course my critique may not be accurate-- I don't claim any great poker skill or insight. These are just my observations, for whatever they are worth....

O'Doyle: sorry if any of this seems unwarranted, and again, best of luck to you.

Frequitude 06-07-2005 06:20 AM

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? I'm not familiar with FG, but that certainly was a Jetsons reference. Did FG swipe it?

-Mike

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No, it was a full-blown Jetsons bit within the show. So it was clearly referencing the Jetsons, not stealing it.

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Yeah, that's why I didn't say "fixed". I forget the episode, but Family Guy cuts to a random scene from the Jetson's where George gets stuck to a treadmill. He comes back in the house all beat up and yells at Judy Jetson, saying he could have been killed. I think the part where he comes back in the house was made up by Family Guy, I can't imagine it being on the Jetsons! It wasn't very family friendly.


Odoyle, Harrington on Holdem 1 & 2 plus some warmup tourneys should do the trick.


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