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At my local casino the 20 game is the highest game spread and the game is so good and much easier compared to the 10/20 game. I could stand to lose a grand no problem but if I do I probably won't be back for a month or 2. Should I risk playing in it and going bust?

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If losing a grand would force you to quit going to the casino for a month, you likely don't have the bankroll for 10/20 either.

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If losing a grand would force you to quit going to the casino for a month, you likely don't have the bankroll for 10/20 either.

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I do I have won 30k+ online playing ring games and tournies. But just losing $1,000 would make me not want to play as high for a few weeks. It's kind of like taking a shot at a higher limit.

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I don't really understand your post, then. Losing $1K can easily happen in one bad afternoon at 20/40. If losing it would bother you that much I would recommend against "taking a shot." Just my $.02.

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I don't really understand your post, then. Losing $1K can easily happen in one bad afternoon at 20/40. If losing it would bother you that much I would recommend against "taking a shot." Just my $.02.

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I know 1k is nothing in 20/40 and I don;t really care if I lose it. I was just trying to decide what limit to play when I go there so I made that post looking for any help.

It's just a weird situation that the 20/40 game is 3-4x better than the 10/20 because 20/40 is the highest game spread.

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Sounds like you are talking about Foxwoods. If you are and I were you, I would definitely play the 20 and hope you run good out of the gate.

It really is a much better game than the 10-20.

- Jags

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I do I have won 30k+ online playing ring games and tournies. But just losing $1,000 would make me not want to play as high for a few weeks. It's kind of like taking a shot at a higher limit.

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I'm assuming you are talking about GBH (port perry)... I've played the 10 game and the 20 game there, and my winrate is a lot higher at the 20 game then at the 10. I have found that a lot of the degenerates at the 10 game bust once, and then switch to the 20 to try and get unstuck.. So for the most part, the play is terrible, and can be very profitable, but fishy play increases variance, so if you can't handle losing 1k in a night, then this game is defnitly not for you..

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Whats your local casino?
I play brantford pretty regularly and the 10/20 game is pretty horriable. As is the case though with games like this the swings are going to be bigger when people are drawing out on you. So play the 20-40 if you think its going to get better (which I dont think it will, by much) But you really have to allow your self more slack then a 1K because that can be gone in one session, with a little bit of bad luck.

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be prepared to go down 4 or 5 racks. If you cant handle that, then you shouldnt play in this game

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I'm talking about Brantford. I used to play 10/20 there but the last few days I've played 20/40 and been up +$2000 and then +$1200 the next day. I used those winnings on something else and now have only 1k to play.

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I'm talking about Brantford. I used to play 10/20 there but the last few days I've played 20/40 and been up +$2000 and then +$1200 the next day. I used those winnings on something else and now have only 1k to play.


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I'm talking about Brantford. I used to play 10/20 there but the last few days I've played 20/40 and been up +$2000 and then +$1200 the next day. I used those winnings on something else and now have only 1k to play.

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i was thinking that you must mean brantford before i even saw that you're from the toronto area :P

the 20/40 isn't necessarily a better game than the 10/20. it's certainly more LAG. in the 20/40, people play way too many hands preflop, generally ignoring position and whether the pot has been raised or not. people capping with 53o and other such wonderful hands isn't all that uncommon. the pre-flop play is atrocious.

the postflop play, though, is quite aggressive, and often the pot is huge after getting capped 7 ways preflop so people will chase with any draw (and be correct to do so), so pots get huge.

if you go by pot size, it looks like an absolutely amazing game, but despite that, the 10/20 players are so terrible post-flop that i'm certain the 10/20 game is an easier game to beat. the 20/40 players are way too loose pre-flop, but in general they're not morons.

and as i'm sure you can imagine, the swings in that game are rather large. you'll often see terrible players walking off with $4-5k in profit for the night.

so... if you only have $1k to play with, and you're at all concerned about losing it, don't play the 20/40. it can literally be gone within an hour. i'm down about 66BB in my last 3 sessions myself.

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I do I have won 30k+ online playing ring games and tournies. But just losing $1,000 would make me not want to play as high for a few weeks. It's kind of like taking a shot at a higher limit.

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Let me get this straight... you have a 750BB+ bankroll (!) for 20/40... and you are afraid of losing one buy-in? Have you played poker before?

If it sounds like I am being a jerk you should probably look at how absurd your statement is instead.

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I'm talking about Brantford. I used to play 10/20 there but the last few days I've played 20/40 and been up +$2000 and then +$1200 the next day. I used those winnings on something else and now have only 1k to play.

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I don't understand you said you have a bankroll of 30K but only have a 1K to play with?
If you have a bankroll of 30K its worth a shot of 25bb to play in the 20/40.

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I'm talking about Brantford. I used to play 10/20 there but the last few days I've played 20/40 and been up +$2000 and then +$1200 the next day. I used those winnings on something else and now have only 1k to play.

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You just won $3,200 and now you only have $1k left? Have you spent the remainder of your $30k in winnings already, too? I think you need to earmark some of your poker winnings to use as your working bankroll. You don't want to end up trying to work your way back at the $.50/$1 tables...

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At my local casino the 20 game is the highest game spread and the game is so good and much easier compared to the 10/20 game. I could stand to lose a grand no problem but if I do I probably won't be back for a month or 2. Should I risk playing in it and going bust?

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IMO playing in a game you don't have the roll for is a recipe for disaster. If you can't view each bet as simply a bet (as opposed to actual $$$) then you won't play well. I played 20 hours of 8/16 at a good table and lost 105 bets. I am not a great player (I'm not a moron either), so maybe 35 of them were because of my idiocy, but that is still 70 bets. Swings happen.

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I don't really understand your post, then. Losing $1K can easily happen in one bad afternoon at 20/40. If losing it would bother you that much I would recommend against "taking a shot." Just my $.02.

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I agree. Typically, if I am going to take a shot at a larger game--which I think most players should do from time to time, provided they can stand to lose part of their bankroll--I will take say 20BB's into the game and tell myself "I will play for x amount of time."

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The money I have made from poker is not put into a bankroll for poker. I usually spend it on other things and keep a small working bankroll. Just because I have won some cash doesn't mean I ever plan on losing 10k+ ever playing mid limit cash games. At the present time I have a 1k working bankroll and wanted feedback on whether I should risk it playing 20/40 over 10/20 becuase it is a much better game. Is that too hard to understand?

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whether I should risk it playing 20/40 over 10/20 becuase it is a much better game.

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what makes you think it's a much better game?

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whether I should risk it playing 20/40 over 10/20 becuase it is a much better game.

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what makes you think it's a much better game?

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I've played in the 10/20 quite a few times and the 20/40 only 3 times. I find the 10/20 players while bad are not as bad and don't have as much gamble as the 20/40 players. The 10/20 game is usually much tighter and rarely has 8 people in capped pre-flop unlike the other game ;-).

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This is retarded if you only have a 1k working bankroll then you shouldnt even be playing 10/20, actually you shouldnt even be playing 5/10....So your answer to your question is no you should'nt take a shot at the 20/40 even though its easier and you shouldnt take a shot in the 10/20 either unless you dont care about risk of ruin

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whether I should risk it playing 20/40 over 10/20 becuase it is a much better game.

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what makes you think it's a much better game?

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I've played in the 10/20 quite a few times and the 20/40 only 3 times. I find the 10/20 players while bad are not as bad and don't have as much gamble as the 20/40 players. The 10/20 game is usually much tighter and rarely has 8 people in capped pre-flop unlike the other game ;-).

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the 10/20 is definitely a better game. the loose-passives at the 10/20 are much more profitable to play against than the loose-aggressives at the 20/40. the big pots are deceptive. you'll usually be sitting with 1-3 pros at any given time at the 20/40 as well, which doesn't help.

they're both great games though.

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this is a very silly thread.

if you have 30k, how did you GET TO 30k?? are you saying you get sick w/ 1k losses? then wtf are you doing w/ 30k from poker? (unless it was wither built at low limits over billions of hands or earned via "real work" or inheretance or whatever other method you'd have to get it...but you did say 30k "poker bankroll online")

play the damn 20game and stop worrying aobut 1k swings in a game that is much more swingy than 25bbs!!!!

-Barron

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I never said I have a 30k bankroll. I said I've won 30k playing online mostly short 5/10, 10/20 and tournaments over 1 year and a half. I am going to play the 20 game tomorrow

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this is a very silly thread.

if you have 30k, how did you GET TO 30k?? are you saying you get sick w/ 1k losses? then wtf are you doing w/ 30k from poker? (unless it was wither built at low limits over billions of hands or earned via "real work" or inheretance or whatever other method you'd have to get it...but you did say 30k "poker bankroll online")

play the damn 20game and stop worrying aobut 1k swings in a game that is much more swingy than 25bbs!!!!

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I agree that Brantford has exellent limit action at those levels. But even the "pros" in the 20 game I find to be terrible players.

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Play the 20. Win or lose, just frickin play.

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I agree that Brantford has exellent limit action at those levels. But even the "pros" in the 20 game I find to be terrible players.

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you're right, most of them aren't that great. some of them are tight-passive, and others are too loose-aggressive. of all the pros there, only shampoo seems to be a very good limit player, but that's if you happen to catch him on a day he's not tilting.

when are you heading out there? i might go myself.

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I'm going tomorrow and also going to sign up for the tournament while I'm there

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I'm going tomorrow and also going to sign up for the tournament while I'm there

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line up early.

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I never said I have a 30k bankroll.

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When someone says "you likely don't have the bankroll for 10/20 either" and your resond with "I do I have won 30k+ online playing ring games and tournies," I don't see how you expect anyone to interpret that except as a statment of bankroll size.

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I never said I have a 30k bankroll.

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When someone says "you likely don't have the bankroll for 10/20 either" and your resond with "I do I have won 30k+ online playing ring games and tournies," I don't see how you expect anyone to interpret that except as a statment of bankroll size.

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How much money have you won/lost in all your online poker sessions? What ever that number is should I assume that is what your poker bankroll is?

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What ever that number is should I assume that is what your poker bankroll is?

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Uh, no.

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What ever that number is should I assume that is what your poker bankroll is?

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Uh, no.

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exactly

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If losing a grand would force you to quit going to the casino for a month, you likely don't have the bankroll for 10/20 either.

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T. what did you buy w/ your 29k. I'm very curious. Also, I have a gut feeling (as the fish like to say) I want you sitting at my 20-40 game.

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T. what did you buy w/ your 29k. I'm very curious. Also, I have a gut feeling (as the fish like to say) I want you sitting at my 20-40 game.

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Sorry nothing exciting just invested in a startup business. You don't want me at your 20/40 I play tight.

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What ever that number is should I assume that is what your poker bankroll is?

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Uh, no.

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However, given the context of your answer to a specific question about bankroll :

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When someone says "you likely don't have the bankroll for 10/20 either" and your resond with "I do I have won 30k+ online playing ring games and tournies," I don't see how you expect anyone to interpret that except as a statment of bankroll size.

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I can agree with bobbyi's and others', assessment. You're directly addressing your bankroll.

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<font color="red"> You don't want me at your 20/40 I play tight. </font>

No offense T, but I'm with LoosenUp. I'd want you in. A tight player with only a dime to give a game is better than a laggy fish with unlimited chips. Your money figures to disappear much more quickly.