Bad check on the river???
 

Villian has check called top pair till showdown a couple of times already...

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, CO folds, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 5 BB

Should I bet on the end? I figured if he had me beat he would raise, and if he missed his draw he would fold.

Re: Bad check on the river???
 

Ya, bet.

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Sometimes I check behind there. Then I kick myself because villain has a small pocket pair that he would have called with.

Re: Bad check on the river???
 

This should be an automatic bet.

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Villian has check called top pair till showdown a couple of times already...

This usually means he'll do the same thing with any piece of the board. I bet this everytime.

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Villian has check called top pair till showdown a couple of times already...

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Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, CO folds, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 5 BB

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The only top pair hands we're ahead of on the river are Q5 and Q6. If hero has only seen villain showdown top pairs, then this is a good check behind.

Re: Bad check on the river???
 

You have to bet. He's going to check everytime since it doesn't cost anything.

Re: Bad check on the river???
 

bet.

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Villian has check called top pair till showdown a couple of times already...

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As Mr. Dyson has noted, has he checked-called with lesser pairs before?

Re: Bad check on the river???
 

check because you hate your kicker. As miles said you are only ahead of Q5 and Q6, this is an easy check especially if he is going to call on the showdown regardless.

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check because you hate your kicker. As miles said you are only ahead of Q5 and Q6, this is an easy check especially if he is going to call on the showdown regardless.

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This isn't the reason we would want to check.

I'm only advocating checking if we've seen villain repeatedly check call with top pair. I'm talking like 5 or more times without ever seeing him showdown less. Obviously this is rare, but the read given in the initial post makes it seem like it may be the case.

Against most opponents, this is an easy value bet.

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Still digging 6-max, steve?

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Against most opponents, this is an easy value bet.

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Excactly.

Re: Bad check on the river???
 

Against most opponents, a kitten was killed for missing a value bet here. Now, if you have never seen this guy show down anything less than top pair (and after a fairly respectable number of hands), then you have a case for checking behind.

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Still digging 6-max, steve?

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Yeah, I got hit with a -120 BB session the other night, but I've made about half of it back since. Still in the green.