Ban Vince Lepore from this forum?
 

[list] Should Vince be banned?[list] [*]Yes [*]No
He really has nothing to add to this forum. Just a troll that has been on this site for waaaaaaaaaaaay to long. GET THE F OUT OF HERE VINCE, NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY.

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Are polls banned?

The only point of someone saying he shouldn't be banned is so that we can count how many screen names he has.

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i haven't decided what i dislike more: the fact that you make pointless and immature threads or that you don't know how to properly make a poll. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I vehemently vote "yes."

On an unrelated note, please also learn how to make polls [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Bravo, someone who actually sees this as garbage.

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Smoothcall=Vince Lepore=loser=turd

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I dont really care one way or the other, but I sure wouldnt miss him...

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I am about to go on a banning frenzy if people don't stop with this nonsense. And yes, Vince may be one, but only one of many.

Vince is not smoothcall. I know it looks like he is, but he's not. I met smoothcall. These guys are roommates. That's a fact. If you don't like either one of these two, confront them. Don't make childish highschool moronic bullying posts to bait them. If they call you names or pm you with insults and profanity, let me know. After all that's what I'm here for isn't it? To babysit a bunch of immature nitwits?

As far as I can tell, Smoothcall has turned over a new leaf of respectful posting. Vince is trying. All you people who are spending actual TIME on this issue...

Enough said. Let me enjoy my friday night.

Mat

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I am about to go on a banning frenzy if people don't stop with this nonsense.

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THANK YOU!!!! This clutter is incredibly detrimental to the forum.

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POTD

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I won't say whether I like Vince or not. That is my opinion, and I'll keep it to myself. But let's not forget the freedom of speech issue. (not including the habitual name calling here) He has a right to his opinions and a right to state them (as long as they are not personall attacks or slander) You all have a right to read tthem or not, as you please.

I recently spent a few days researching an article I'm doing on American Idol. Several of my posts on their website were deleted because I asked pointed questions about the show and the network. I don't care if they own the site or not. What they did was censorship, plain and simple. And this from a TV network that lives by the 1st amendment. Pure BS.

Banning Vince is not the answer (provided he uses restraint in personal attacks). The answer is to keep an open forum, Open to all opinions, even if they differ from ours.

Thanks Matt for doing it the right way, at least for now.

Keep playing hard! Glen

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Freedom of speech doesn't pertain to message boards run by a private company. They can censor whatever they want whenever they want.

I'm not sure if Mat doesn't read the forums or what, but the baiting is being done by Vince/Smoothcall. They certainly aren't namecalling or using profanity, but is the little kid sticking his finger in his sister's face "touching" her?

Vince/Smoothcall are doing the equivalent of the "I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU!" routine on the whole forum, except the parents are completely oblivious to the situation.

Knowing they are roomates is especially helpful too. Why did the charade have to last so long? Smoothcall signed off as Vince and thats what started the majority of this crap, and their explanation was that Smoothcall happened to be over at vince's house and posted on his logged in name. It sounds like in reality they are roommates and Paul Phillips proved exactly that, as well as the fact that they share the same computer. It is a CSI-like moment really, where the "proof" has definitely given great probability to one solution, but in act 3 we see how 1 tiny detail brings the real truth alltogether.

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But let's not forget the freedom of speech issue. (not including the habitual name calling here) He has a right to his opinions and a right to state them (as long as they are not personall attacks or slander)


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BWHAHAHAHAHA. good one.

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Freedom of speech doesn't pertain to message boards run by a private company. They can censor whatever they want whenever they want.



But they shouldn't! That was my point. I come here to view diverse opinions and state my own. I don't want to take part in a forum that has been "cleansed" just because some mod didn't like what was said.

However offensive Vince and Smoothcall can sometimes be, many of the things they say have some merit, if for no other reason than to stimulate other opinions. He has offended me at times, but I simply turn the other cheek. It doesn't bother me. If it ever does, I'll simply stop cliking on those posts.

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in act 3 we see how 1 tiny detail brings the real truth alltogether.

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The truth is the truth is the truth and has always been the truth. But you and Phillips want to see things in your own clouded way. The truth is and has always been that I am Vince and i am not smoothcall. Talk about bating people. You and your brethen effectively called me and smoothcall liars for the pat few months.

Now the TRUTH that I have told you for months is verifieds and instread of being a decent fair human being and apologize you try and put divert your guilt by blaming me and Smoothcall. For what? Telling the TRUTH! Your post here is indicative of the TRUTH of what has been going on on this Forum. You and your hero Phillips are the cause of these silly threads (like this one).

A decent person would apologize when they are PROVEN wrong. You on the other hand are not satisfied with the truth. It hurts too much. I take it that Phillips put you up to this.

Vince

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[ QUOTE ][list] Should Vince be banned?[list] ...He really has nothing to add to this forum. Just a troll that has been on this site for waaaaaaaaaaaay to long. GET THE F OUT OF HERE VINCE, NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY.

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I have no idea who Vince or who you are, but I'll mention as a eager first time visitor to this forum - I hope I won't find this kind of blatent hate mongering is the status quo around here.

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I hope I won't find this kind of blatent hate mongering is the status quo around here.

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I'm Vince. You will find this type of post from this guy all the time. Get's his heart beating.

Vince

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Vince, in a court of law, yes, you would be considered telling the truth, that you aren't smoothcall.

You read the post by Paul, and saw exactly how "incriminating" the evidence he dug up was, and you played it for all that you could. I'm sure you guys get a great laugh sitting over each other's shoulder pointing out threads.

The TRUTH as you say, is that you never even came close to telling the community that you were roommates sharing a PC and thats why your posts lined up how they did. You let it ride, egging folks on, knowing you were getting a good rise out of a good many. I never got pissed at your antics, I just laughed at how silly you were, regardless of how many people you are.

To a lot of new to the net and forums poker players/watchers, your techniques are probably pretty new and unexpected, but to most people that have visited forums in the past, your play is weak sauce.

I apologize for assuming you were playing a double persona troll Vince. I should have put the peices together and figured out that what Paul originally uncovered is a couple of guys that are pretty close friends living together and probably sharing the same PC at one time or another. I would also wager you guys have lived together for quite sometime, because you both have characteristics of each other in how you present yourselves and general lingo.

I don't apologize for thinking you are an extremely eccentric attention beggar that craves it more than even the most esteemless drama queen ever has.

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I have decided to not comment on the nonsense about whether i am vince anymore. This will be my last word on it if i can help it. We said from day one it wasn't true. We didn't play anything up. All you guys did and Paul. I have not been the one creating this madness. I have just been defending myslef from lies and insults. But have come to the conclusion that it is a no win situaiton to defend myself. And all i am doing by defending myself is hurting the real people that want to discuss poker by clogging up the board with replies. So i apologize to the people that want to discuss poker, and will refrain from defending myself by answering chilish insults.

And i have my own computer. I just happend to use his at that time for a couple days. Not that that is important.

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A decent person would apologize when they are PROVEN wrong. You on the other hand are not satisfied with the truth. It hurts too much. I take it that Phillips put you up to this

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vince, truely, i am [feeling] SORRY [for you].

and, truth be known, i did consider the possibility you and smooth were a couple living together, thus the reasons for your posts being at similar times.

Phill

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You read the post by Paul,

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I did not read anything by Paul Philips that claimed I was Smoothcall. It doesn't matter. I made a post that Stated flat out that I was not Smoothcall. You and Phillips and his clown army called me a liar. I spoke the truth then and it's still the truth. Now you make things up about me and Smoothcall being in some kind of conspiracy. You really are something. You are wrong. You will never be right no matter how hard you try to disguise the truth. Can you look in the mirror and say "I have been fair and honest in this matter". I can. I know that you can't. You call me weak. That's your hero's way of changing the subject form what happened here. "Let's attack Vince then we won't have to face the truth".

Vince

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Vince is not smoothcall. I know it looks like he is, but he's not. I met smoothcall. These guys are roommates. That's a fact. If you don't like either one of these two, confront them. Don't make childish highschool moronic bullying posts to bait them. If they call you names or pm you with insults and profanity, let me know. After all that's what I'm here for isn't it? To babysit a bunch of immature nitwits?

As far as I can tell, Smoothcall has turned over a new leaf of respectful posting. Vince is trying. All you people who are spending actual TIME on this issue...

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Truth is, all of this appears to be accurate.

I was going to post this very thing myself, but I didn't want to further contribute to the stupidity. Now that Mr. Sklansky has broached the topic, I'll throw in a little bit.

I would suggest that everyone just put aside all of this nonsense and recognize the fact that both Vince and Smoothcall (who are, clearly now, different entities) have actually been constructively contributing in the past month or so, and should be cut some slack.

Obviously, they have a little work to do in the--ahem--demeanor department, but they seem to me to be moving past the nonsense, and I think everyone else should try to do the same.

I will, for what it's worth.

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God bless Mat...thank you

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That isn't the vibe I get Rushmore.

I think their 'contributions' are simply a rules lawyers trolling method, as described below:

Post inanely ridiculous topic subject with questionable content.

examples:
Is Fossilman a Professional!
Does Daniel N think Phil H. is a great or elite player?
How many of the BIG GAME players are the real deal?
A question for Dynasty and others that I respect!
Phillips Claims there is a Rivalry!
Is Fillmouth, Helmuth or Phillips?
Daniel N. rips Barry Greenstein!

These are from the first 2 pages. If they post and a topic leaves or gets low on the first page, they will reply to each other keeping the topic on the front page until either a. a flamewar about them starts or b. people try to calm a potential flame war by posing a different topic in the thread that makes more sense.

in the first 2 pages, I listed the topics that had lies or huge discrepancies in the body, or misleading topics that had related but not quite so exagerrated subjectmatter. I only had to leave about 3 posts off or it would be their entire set of postings from the first 2 pages.

like I said before, its the "I'm not touching you!" routine. Sure, they are following the letter of the law, but is there any real contribution?

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If they post and a topic leaves or gets low on the first page, they will reply to each other keeping the topic

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Ohgetee, still the same liar you have always been. Did Phillips put you up to this? This looks like his accusation that Smoothcall and I are the same person. You lied there as did he and you are lying here or are you he and it is really PP lying. You are pathetic. Now go up to Phillips Journal and report as you always do. You are a very dishonest person. BTW isn't one of your handles on that Journal, extempore?

You "Cowardly lying" thing, you! Hey, why don't you have PP produce a chart verifying your claim here. That should be fun!

Vince

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I am about to go on a banning frenzy if people don't stop with this nonsense. And yes, Vince may be one, but only one of many.

Vince is not smoothcall. I know it looks like he is, but he's not. I met smoothcall. These guys are roommates. That's a fact. If you don't like either one of these two, confront them. Don't make childish highschool moronic bullying posts to bait them. If they call you names or pm you with insults and profanity, let me know. After all that's what I'm here for isn't it? To babysit a bunch of immature nitwits?

As far as I can tell, Smoothcall has turned over a new leaf of respectful posting. Vince is trying. All you people who are spending actual TIME on this issue...

Enough said. Let me enjoy my friday night.

Mat

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What makes you think he doesn't just use his roommates screen name, posting his own crap over and over again?

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That isn't the vibe I get Rushmore.

I think their 'contributions' are simply a rules lawyers trolling method, as described below:

Post inanely ridiculous topic subject with questionable content.

examples:
Is Fossilman a Professional!
Does Daniel N think Phil H. is a great or elite player?
How many of the BIG GAME players are the real deal?
A question for Dynasty and others that I respect!
Phillips Claims there is a Rivalry!
Is Fillmouth, Helmuth or Phillips?
Daniel N. rips Barry Greenstein!

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I agree that the posts you mention are bordering on the inane, and really serve little constructive purpose.

But it seems to me that things are calming down a little bit, and that they both seem to be posting with less weird paranoia/persecution complex.

Vince's post "Big Buy Tournament Poker" was very good, and started a useful discussion.

Smoothcall seems to enjoy the gossip/celebrity player discussions a little more, but that's his prerogative.

The real problem is the flamewars, and that's something that seems to be petering out a little bit, so let's let it do that--peter out. This involves not intentionally provoking anyone, and also not seeing monsters under the bed every time someone posts, causing any great defensiveness.

My point is that I see an improvement, and I'd hate to think I'm the sort of person who wouldn't acknowledge it just to be continually spiteful.

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I am about to go on a banning frenzy if people don't stop with this nonsense. And yes, Vince may be one, but only one of many.

Vince is not smoothcall. I know it looks like he is, but he's not. I met smoothcall. These guys are roommates. That's a fact. If you don't like either one of these two, confront them. Don't make childish highschool moronic bullying posts to bait them. If they call you names or pm you with insults and profanity, let me know. After all that's what I'm here for isn't it? To babysit a bunch of immature nitwits?

As far as I can tell, Smoothcall has turned over a new leaf of respectful posting. Vince is trying. All you people who are spending actual TIME on this issue...

Enough said. Let me enjoy my friday night.

Mat

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Vincent Lepore = smoothcall = Mat Sklansky!?!? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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"I take it that Phillips put you up to this." <-- Yes, just wait till you see what Phillips and his henchmen do next.

Seriously, these guys are 100% ridiculous. What I find interesting though, is the fact that so may people on this forum spend such an inordinate amount of time responding to these guys.

Ignore them and they will go away--Vince and Smooth come across as extremely juvenile. At least this works with my cousins.

Can you guys just give them there own forum? This way they can read and respond to each others polls all day and the rest of us aren't subjected to their nonsense-- Is Chip Reese the best ever? Does Daniel Negreanu die his hair with brand x or brand y? Do you think Fossilman...blah blah blah.

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Thank you Rushmore for being objective and not joining the bandwagon of haters and flamethrowers. And seeing that i am here to have fun and insightful discussion.

I have respected your posts more than most in this wpt forum since i have been here. So i guess it doesn't surprise me that much that you have a mind of your own to see the situaiton objectively. Instead of the haters that follow the leader.

Yeah i like the gossip more. But i enjoy discussing technical play as well. It just doesn't seem to come up alot in here. Most of the posts i see(not just by me) are some form of gossip. Not that there is anything wrong with that. But i plan on starting to post more technique sometimes in the future and or responding to actual hand situations.

Thanks again for seeing things fairly and speaking up. As not too many do. They eitehr flame or the ones that think like you would rather choose to be quiet and leave us out in the wind. As i said before i hope this is past everybody know and we can move on.

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Just out of curiousity. Where are your real contributions to this forum? Is this one of them? Lets move on and start over.

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mistrpug,

You sound like a jealous 2-4 or 3-6 losing player that wished he could play as well as Smoothcall. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Vince

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Vince is not smoothcall. I know it looks like he is, but he's not. I met smoothcall. These guys are roommates. That's a fact.

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Room mates. Yet they have discussions with each other on the forum. Ok.

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Room mates. Yet they have discussions with each other on the forum. Ok

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What discussions?

Vince

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...;o=&fpart=

One such example where you reply to each other a few times.

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Is Fossilman a Professional!
Does Daniel N think Phil H. is a great or elite player?
How many of the BIG GAME players are the real deal?
A question for Dynasty and others that I respect!
Phillips Claims there is a Rivalry!
Is Fillmouth, Helmuth or Phillips?
Daniel N. rips Barry Greenstein!



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these posts are strictly in line with the inane garbage that has typified wpt since its inception. the double standard as applied to vince is quite humorous.

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I don't see where it is any of your business why I care "what Dynasty thinks". But since you asked and since I already answered that in my post the short answer is "R-E-S-P-E-C-T"


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That was the only reply that I made to Smoothcall in that thread. You are being vindictive and trying to prove some silly point by calling this a discussion!

Vince

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Vince's post "Big Buy Tournament Poker" was very good, and started a useful discussion.

Smoothcall seems to enjoy the gossip/celebrity player discussions a little more, but that's his prerogative.

The real problem is the flamewars, and that's something that seems to be petering out a little bit, so let's let it do that--peter out. This involves not intentionally provoking anyone, and also not seeing monsters under the bed every time someone posts, causing any great defensiveness.

My point is that I see an improvement, and I'd hate to think I'm the sort of person who wouldn't acknowledge it just to be continually spiteful.

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I pretty much agree with this sentiment entirely. This is also why when I reply to them, I feel I am civil, especially when compared to the tone and demeanor of others.

Hopefully we are indeed on the upswing, and this forum has already seen its rock bottom.

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I don't see where it is any of your business why I care "what Dynasty thinks". But since you asked and since I already answered that in my post the short answer is "R-E-S-P-E-C-T"


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That was the only reply that I made to Smoothcall in that thread. You are being vindictive and trying to prove some silly point by calling this a discussion!

Vince

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+ smoothcalls further reply to you. The nature of the exchange was something that could have been done in private between the 2 of you. Guess you must share a pretty big room.

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Get over this. Everybody. Just get over this. Please.