Ducks
 

Semi deep stacks on the $600 tables, totally confused on what to do on the turn.

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

BB ($400)
UTG ($1406.2)
Hero ($1038.05)
CO ($925.7)
Button ($548.05)
SB ($1000)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $17, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($66) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $35</font>, Hero calls $35, SB calls $35.

Turn: ($171) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $70</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $140</font>

uhoh... both of us still have a good 800 behind us at this point and im not sure if im drawing to the full house or if im still ahead. Any suggestions?

Re: Ducks
 

I'd make it $300 straight and fold to a re-raise. That's a big enough raise to see if you're ahead

Re: Ducks
 

Just raise the flop man. Why not?

Re: Ducks
 

raise the flop.


since you didnt, id use your position and call the turn and see what happens on the river.

he most certainly has a made hand here, and reopening the betting allows lots of bad things to happen, like having a better hand reraise you and a worse hand fold.

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I didnt feel like giving away strenght, they made such a weak flop bet that it looked more like a stab than top pair or anything that would call a raise. Not to mention i had position on both of them so I wasn't worried about seeing a turn.

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Not to mention i had position on both of them so I wasn't worried about seeing a turn.

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You seem worried about the turn now...

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I didnt feel like giving away strenght, they made such a weak flop bet that it looked more like a stab than top pair or anything that would call a raise. Not to mention i had position on both of them so I wasn't worried about seeing a turn.

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this board seems fine for a postflop slowplay with a set in a raised pot, where you have some kind of idea where they are at in the hand.

with a set in an unraised pot, you really have no idea where your opponents are, so its much more risky.

Re: Ducks
 

Raise the flop.

As you played it, call the minraise in position and figure out whether he has you on the river. If you fill up, you're gonna have to go broke here since a straight is very likely on this board. If you don't fill, call a reasonable bet on the river, as he could easily be betting two pair hands or overpair hands. If he makes a pot sized or bigger bet on the river, think about mucking. 1/2 pot or less is an insta-call I think.

Re: Ducks
 

ALL THE DUCKS ARE SWIMMING IN THE WATER.

http://www.wcisel.com/web/ducks/ducks.jpg

.. that's what attracted me to this thread then i realised it was probably about the poker hand 22 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

But! Since i'm here, i would have raise the flop and let UTG hang himself with AA KK quicker before he freezes up/dislikes a turn raise rather than a flop raise. HAD I NOT DONE THAT. I'd just be calling now.

If you don't fill up on the river and he pots it then you have to wonder how stupid $600 players can be 44 66 are v. legit holdings here, so that's 6 combinations, 77 is a bit of a faggy combination given the flop call, but sure, maybe. 35s is a bit crapy given he called $17 and if he could have 35s then he could have 67s. Ok, in short, for everytime you see 44 66 here will you see an idiot with AA KK A7 67? Seems so.

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great song!

Re: Ducks
 

0:09
500 milligram dose administered
Experiment begins

0:59
Temperature 98.6
Pulse 68
Blood pressure 120/70
Breathing regular
Focus clear

1:41
Pulse 110
Blood pressure 140/90
Sweat glands aroused
Slight constriction of pupils
Inducing stage 2

2:25
Temperature 98°
Increasing dilation of pupils
Deleta waves moving from cranial anterior to posterior
Overwhelming sense of well being and euphoria

2:49
Increasing input voltage to maximum

3:37
Temperature rising to 106.2
Pulse 160
Blood pressure 190/120
Displaying symptoms of disorientation
Profuse sweating
Extreme dilation of pupils
Inducing stage 3

4:34
Core temperature drop to 93°
Pulse down to 34
Blood pressure 60/40 and falling
Eye lids flickering

5:17
Pulse and temperature continuing to fall
Body inert
Skin grey and flacid
No response to external stimulae
EEG shows no cerebral activity

5:42
Experiment ends


... yes, i type fast.

Re: Ducks
 

lol

Re: Ducks
 

In by book ducks grow into being a swan if there's a 2 on the flop.

Re: Ducks
 

Why can't you post more in the NL forum?