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Bubbagump 04-30-2005 04:14 PM

AKs where do you slow down here.
 
Hand 1

Paradise Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

River: (29.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero ?

Final Pot: 41.25 BB

What's your line here? Peddle to the metal or hit the brakes?

davelin 04-30-2005 04:17 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
Because we fear the straight flush? Ridiculous...

Shillx 04-30-2005 04:17 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
You have the nut flush and a draw to the nut straight flush. How are you not pumping this baby for value on the flop???? Everyone is trapped in the middle!

BTW - I'm not stopping in this hand. With this massive overlay, I'm raising even if the guy flips up 87 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Brad

MrEngenic 04-30-2005 04:31 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
What on earth are you afraid of, the straight flush? Never ever fear a straight flush, this is so totally a raise situation on the river if I ever saw one. I wouldn't even slow down if he showed me the straight flush

@bsolute_luck 04-30-2005 04:33 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
hahah, i read the topic and looked at the hand...read the topic, looked at the hand...and repeat.

i thought you were kidding?! go baby go!!!! bet that, cap that, laugh all the way to the bank.

IPSC 04-30-2005 04:43 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
Raise the flop, I don't think anyone is going to fold to this draw heavy board for one more small bet. Get the money in.

Raise the river and see if you win a 50BB pot.

aK13 04-30-2005 04:55 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
All you need is one button on this hand....

milesdyson 04-30-2005 05:15 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
[ QUOTE ]
BTW - I'm not stopping in this hand. With this massive overlay, I'm raising even if the guy flips up 87 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Brad

[/ QUOTE ]
Stop lying, dude.........

NateDog 04-30-2005 06:56 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
[ QUOTE ]
hahah, i read the topic and looked at the hand...read the topic, looked at the hand...and repeat.


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irishpint 04-30-2005 07:12 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
seriously, are you mocking the rest of us who dont flop the nut flush and get callers the whole way? cmon if you cant pump this then what are you doing playing poker? without a paired board you really cant be beaten. a straight flush can lick my nuts, BET!

Bubbagump 04-30-2005 07:31 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
[ QUOTE ]
hahah, i read the topic and looked at the hand...read the topic, looked at the hand...and repeat.

i thought you were kidding?! go baby go!!!! bet that, cap that, laugh all the way to the bank.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not kidding. I ended up crying all the way to the poor house and felt like an idiot when I was shown the 78 of spades.

Bubbagump 04-30-2005 07:35 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
So all of you are in agreement that Straight Flush possibilities be damnes, you aren't slowing down?

What other hand it going to still be raming and jamming on the river other than the sf?

rusellmj 04-30-2005 07:42 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
[ QUOTE ]
What other hand it going to still be raming and jamming on the river other than the sf?

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Q high flush maybe? Seriously, there is a looong list of crazy hands I've seen cap the river when I've held the nuts. While this isn't quite the nuts, you have to be good here more than you'll lose. Eh?

AlmightyJay 04-30-2005 08:34 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
You're not honestly scared of a straight flush, are you? Hero raises forever.

Also, raise the flop.

handsome 04-30-2005 08:55 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
Dude, just fold preflop.

As Zehn 04-30-2005 10:20 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
Grunching.

You can't really be worried about someone having a straight flush are you? You have to be salivating and praying that they don't fold on your raises.

shadow29 04-30-2005 10:59 PM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
[ QUOTE ]
How are you not pumping this baby for value on the flop???? Everyone is trapped in the middle!


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There's nothing wrong with not raising here.

Sorta different, well in fact very different. But I just wanted to show this hand.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG+2 posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (12.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

@bsolute_luck 05-01-2005 09:44 AM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
hahah, i read the topic and looked at the hand...read the topic, looked at the hand...and repeat.

i thought you were kidding?! go baby go!!!! bet that, cap that, laugh all the way to the bank.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not kidding. I ended up crying all the way to the poor house and felt like an idiot when I was shown the 78 of spades.

[/ QUOTE ]

hahah, THAT SUX! anyhoo, the chances of that are so tini tiny, i'd still bet/cap and repeat every street next time.

Zoelef 05-01-2005 09:57 AM

Re: AKs where do you slow down here.
 
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND ALL THAT IS HOLY, RAISE THAT FLOP!!!

*ahem*

Turn is fine, pedal to the metal on the river.

Edit: Shadow29's post is a more acceptable instance of slowplaying; but I believe you have to at least raise the turn there.


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