1st 10k of 6max
 

Here are the stats from my 1st 10k 6 max hands. What needs work? Thanks.

PT stats

when you get to the link, click on the image for a larger clearer view. I did this because I am an idiot and could not get the image to appear by using the "image" UBB button and entering the website.

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I see no image.

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Very nice stats, those are just about what I am striving for in about every area. I don't see anything out of line, but what do I know I am just a lowly 1-2 player.

Question for you, did you play 1-2 six max, before moving up? If so what was your bb/100? The reason I ask is two fold, one is I am wondering what the win rate would be with optimum stats (mine is 4.7 with many leaks) and also I have thought about moving up to 5-10 and wonder how win rate from 1-2 translates to 5-10. Thanks

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Wow, I honestly can't find anything in your stats to criticize. Maybe increase your PFR by a % or 2 but thats about it. I think your stats look really freaking good. Its a small sample but if your stats continue like that I think you should be able to maintain close to that winrate.

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Its a small sample but if your stats continue like that I think you should be able to maintain close to that winrate.

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I agree if close means within 2.5 BBs.

Krishan

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Its a small sample but if your stats continue like that I think you should be able to maintain close to that winrate.

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I agree if close means within 2.5 BBs.

Krishan

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lol, I was thinking he should be able to maintain 2.5+bb/100. So I guess I meant within abou 1bb

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If his postflop play is good and he is valuebetting well I think he is definately somewhere between 3 and 4/100.

-Mike

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If his postflop play is good and he is valuebetting well I think he is definately somewhere between 3 and 4/100.

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You guys are insane. You can't extrapolate win rate from stats. Your postflop play has to be better than good to sustain 3+ BB/100. I'm willing to bet just from his posting 10K stats + his registration date that he is running hot.

Krishan

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You can't extrapolate win rate from stats.

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Nate had a very interesting post a couple of days ago with some research into this.

Link

While true that I believe this has slightly less relevence to shorthanded play, I don't think it's dismissable.

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Your postflop play has to be better than good to sustain 3+ BB/100.

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Maybe very good, but definately not great or near-perfect, especially if you are not playing 4+ tables.

Maybe he is running hot, but like I said with very good postflop play and if he is valuebetting properly, 3-4 would be very possible. (Probably closer to 3 but who knows)

-Mike

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I'm with Krishan all the way on this one. This is why we need a superspecialultramagic filter that takes any WR discussion out of posts with less than 50K hands, minimum.

And really, who cares if he's running well or is an incredible postflop player or what? I'm sure there are people out there that could beat this game for 3.5BB/100 over significant sample. Good for them, great. But its largely tangential to what I - and I'd assume most others - are here for. If we can know for a fact a given poster is a huge winner, it certainly gives more weight to their arguments on theory and play. But I don't need to know that Nikla can run at 4BB/100 to know that he's damn good and I should give serious thoughts to his posts anyways. I don't think I've ever seen a WR out of Rory, or MD, or others, and they all write some of the most unique, interesting posts in the forum.

Sorry, going on a bit of a tangent myself. But let's forget WR unless its in the context of something novel, ok?

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I can't see your stats but I now have a great celebrity screen saver and know how to impress women with my abs. TYVM.

Lost Wages

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I'm with Krishan all the way on this one

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me too 10K is just too small.
Btw has Nikla ever posted his 6MAX stats on this forum?

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I disagree, after 10,000 hands, I believe your stats (besides winrate) will not be significantly different than after 50,000 hands (if you don't change the way you play). If you are posting to find leaks in your game and not brag about your winrate, then I think you can discern some helpful information.

I posted my stats after 20,000 hands and a helpful poster was able to point out a couple of leaks in my game that I was not aware of. If you don't like the stats posts don't read them. Personally I like to see the stats posts and to see how the winrates, relate to the stats.

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I didn't play any 1/2 6max before starting at 5/10. The reason is that I had plenty of bankroll from full ring games and felt comfortable enough adapting to a shorthanded game. I played one table for the first thousand or so hands and then played 2. I have been lurking here for over a year since I read TOP and HPFAP. I since have reread those multiple times and picked up a bunch of other 2+2 stuff. This site deserves a bunch of the credit for making me a winning player. When I posted those stats I really wasn't expecting so many positive responses because I figured I probably wasn't doing something optimally. Thanks for all the responses.

JP

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My entire post was centered on winrate. Other stats are a copmletely separate issue.

How can you reconcile your first sentence with your last?

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lol

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If his postflop play is good and he is valuebetting well I think he is definately somewhere between 3 and 4/100.


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lol

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I was surprised by this stat (how often people are folding to you):

Steal success, Ww/oSD% = 54.56%.

For those with large databases, is this high or standard?

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I did not make this post to brag about my win rate. I was just curious to see if my game had any obvious flaws that I could improve upon. I understand 10k is not a large enough sample to determine any kind of a winrate.

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Its a small sample but if your stats continue like that I think you should be able to maintain close to that winrate.

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lol

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The guy just switched to 6max, and his stats are already at pretty optimal levels. If he's doing things wrong he is only going to get better from here. I don't see what its so hard to believe that he could be a 2.5BB/100 winner.

If someone had posted stats that were completely terrible with some amazing winrate (pokerpaul comes to mind) I would tell them their are a hot running n00b and about to crash and burn. But when somone posts good stats I think there is a good chance they are playing good poker.

Even if his winrate had been, say 0, I would still estimate based on his stats that he is going to be a big winner in that game.

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you have more experience in that game than I do but within 1 of 3.68 is ridiculously high. only the best players at 10/20 are worth that much. I don't think you can put him in that category by simply looking at his stats. you have no idea how he plays

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you have more experience in that game than I do but within 1 of 3.68 is ridiculously high. only the best players at 10/20 are worth that much. I don't think you can put him in that category by simply looking at his stats. you have no idea how he plays

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First of all its 5/10. Secondly, you're right I technically don't have any idea how he plays because I have not seen him play. But based on the information I do have (his stats), I feel like I can say with a decent level of confidence that he is a solid shorthanded player. He obviously thinks hes playing good, and he made this post to see if others would agree and since we arent all going to watch him play for a few hours, he shows us the next best thing. Based on the next best thing to watching him play, I am indicating that I agree with his suspicion that he is playing well. I guess we will just have to wait another 990,000 hands and have him get back to us so we can know for sure [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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oops, thought it was 10/20. that makes a difference then