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smoore 04-22-2005 05:22 PM

The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
Great room, competent dealers. Cocktail waitress was a little inept and the floor manager was pretty damn surly last night but whatever. Donks a plenty, even on the three tables that were running last night. I saw multiple hands with 4 or 5 people cold-calling preflop. They spread 2/4 in addition to the inane 2-5 spread-limit and the LAG 5-5. NLHE Sit-N-Go's all day, last one spread around 9pm it seemed.

Can't hear a single slot machine.

Half the room is designated non smoking and some jerk moved away from my table when he saw me standing by the ashtray (near the wall) smoking. I don't normally smoke at the table, I stand up to smoke. He was giving me the stinkeye and acting really condecending about "having to play with smokers". Go back to Boulder or play in the other half of this room. He seemed like a dick and I was there to have fun, anyway. I guess I should chew and keep a spitcup near his drink instead.

Were you there last night, juanez? I was the loudmouth in the blue shirt with orange trim and baseball hat. I was at the table with the kid that kept doing stuff like diving into the muck, showing cards to live players, taking too long to act, etc.

swede123 04-22-2005 06:38 PM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
Is the Gilpin in Black Hawk or Central City?

Swede

smoore 04-22-2005 07:20 PM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
blackhawk. Uphill from the lodge.

GoblinMason (Craig) 04-23-2005 04:24 AM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
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Can't hear a single slot machine.

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I like the sound of slot machines. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

juanez 04-23-2005 05:20 AM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
Glad you liked the room smoore.

I was the loudmouth in the blue shirt with orange trim and baseball hat. I was at the table with the kid that kept doing stuff like diving into the muck, showing cards to live players, taking too long to act, etc.
Yeah, I remember you guys - Table 12, 2/4 I think it was. A few minor gaming violations, but you guys got away with it. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Cocktail waitress was a little inept
Remember that you are only supposed to get one alcoholic beverage every 30 minutes, and the casino is rather strict on that, so try not to be too hard on them if you're slugging em down. What was that disgusting drink your friend was trying to invent? I told him sounded like a recipe for vomit.

and the floor manager was pretty damn surly last night but whatever
You must nean Ray - the big bald Iranian. He always looks like he's about to rip your head off, but he's usually a pussy cat if you have a question, want a table change, whatever. I've seen him REALLY pissed off and it's scary.

Go back to Boulder or play in the other half of this room.
This is exactly why half of the room in totally non-smoking.

Good luck man - see ya there! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

smoore 04-23-2005 11:26 AM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
Heh, I'm fairly certain I didn't break any rules. That guy in the green shirt was pretty nutty. TWICE he showed his cards to a live player, once to me and once to that guy sitting next to me with the gelled hair. Incredible. Luckily, both of us folded in the hands in question.

Yeah, I wasn't getting drinks too fast and I even skipped a couple "asks". I think the floor cut me off or something. That's just a side effect of being the aforementioned loudmouth I guess. (But MAN did it get that silver-haired guy and the newbie in 1 to pay me off a couple times). She seemed really frazzled running drinks to four tables and was quick to snap at me if I asked a question that might normally be followed with attitude. Oh well, I guess extra tips don't go far with her. I'm not looking for extra drinks, just less 'tude.

Ray was very nice, I was talking about the schoolmarm-like woman later.

I'd never seen that kid before in my life, I have no idea what he was thinking with that weird drink. I was trying to "buddy" with him 'cause he was somewhat competent. He was also doing a pretty good job of cooperative betting with me once I explained the concept. We got a couple pots down to heads up before the flop with my raise/his reraise. I won them both [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

I'll supbro you next time I see you there.

swede123 04-23-2005 11:30 AM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
What tournaments does the Gilpin have on weekends, specifically Sundays (tomorrow)?

Swede

smoore 04-23-2005 11:37 AM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
gilpinpokerroom.com

sweet.

Sully 04-24-2005 03:35 PM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
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I was trying to "buddy" with him 'cause he was somewhat competent. He was also doing a pretty good job of cooperative betting with me once I explained the concept. We got a couple pots down to heads up before the flop with my raise/his reraise. I won them both [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]


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Isn't this pretty much a word for word definition of collusion?

smoore 04-24-2005 05:35 PM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
No it's not, Sully. If it were, I would be colluding with every other decent to good player I play with.

Are you telling me you don't cooperatively bet? i.e. One known solid player to your right raises, you have something that might warrant a cold call like JJ or AQo but instead you RAISE to drive out stupid draws behind you. If you don't, you might want to start.

TomBrooks 04-24-2005 05:47 PM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
From a map, it looks like it's in the foothills of the Rockies - God's country. How about some pictures of the outside of the casino and the surrounding area?

PS: I lived in Boulder from one summer and through the following winter.

Sully 04-24-2005 07:20 PM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
So how exactly do you explain the "concept of cooperative betting" to a person sitting next to you in a B&M? I'm curious. I don't play much live, but when I do, it's in Blackhawk / Central City, so I think you can understand my concern.

I'm not accusing you of colluding (yet), but I think you are walking a fine line here. Please give me an example of how you would explain this to someone you just sat down next to at the table.

And you don't need to explain the concept of isolation raises to me....I understand poker, just not "cooperative betting".

smoore 04-24-2005 10:30 PM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
Actually, Sully, you did accuse me of collusion, therefore my response. I would explain it at the table like this:

him: Man, I hate when those dumbasses call raises with NOTHING and then suck out.
me: OK, well then instead of just calling yourself, go ahead and threebet it... they don't want to call the threebet nearly as much. I call this 'cooperative betting', it gets the donks out with thier strange 25o and such. Players like you and I use this to get pots headsup or shorthanded.
him: NO SHIZNAT! WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THIS?!?!?! SNOOOOOGINS!
me: Duh.

If that's collusion then I'm a f'in cheater. Every good player in the world is a f'in cheater.

Tom: It's gilpin county, definitely not foothils. You would take 93 south to 6 (the canyon) west. Most of the rooms suck. Have fun.

Sully 04-24-2005 11:09 PM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
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him: Man, I hate when those dumbasses call raises with NOTHING and then suck out.
me: OK, well then instead of just calling yourself, go ahead and threebet it... they don't want to call the threebet nearly as much. I call this 'cooperative betting', it gets the donks out with thier strange 25o and such. Players like you and I use this to get pots headsup or shorthanded.
him: NO SHIZNAT! WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THIS?!?!?! SNOOOOOGINS!
me: Duh.


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If that's all you're talking about, no big deal, and that is definitely not collusion. You might want to think about coming with a different name than "cooperative betting" so that people like myself don't jump to conclusions.

Something like "table coaching" or "educating the fish" might be more accurate.

juanez 04-25-2005 12:24 AM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
Black Hawk is more in "the Mountains" than "the Footihills", but yes it is beautiful country. The casino is on Main Street, so the scenery around it is mostly other casinos. A few minutes outside of town and you are in the wilderness, where I live. Sorry man - no pictures to post of the casino.

http://www.thegilpincasino.com/

juanez 04-25-2005 12:31 AM

THREAD HIJACK
 
The Gilpin's WSOP seat givaway promotion begins tomorrow, Monday.

One entry to the drawing will be given to anyone with a full house (live action and tourney). 5 entries for a RF. One entry per tourney that you play in. You can also write in to receive an entry by mail.

Win the drawing and you get a WSOP seat or $5,000 cash - your choice.

Thanks to those who responded to the poll about this a while back. The results and your comments were helpful!

smoore 04-25-2005 06:58 AM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
Yeah, cool Sully... you'll hear more about "cooperative betting" in O8 than in hold'em but in O8 you really do need it. I don't ever condone, "I have a major hand, do you want to play me?" kind of talk but I'll reraise you if it's time to get heads up. No noise, just bets.

I'll supbro you if I ever see that wonderful knit beanie in your avatar. That's f'in COLORADO, mang... Damn, you look like my neighbor.

RPMick 04-25-2005 07:54 AM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
I don't know if I like the way they advertise here...look at the first bullet on the cardroom page.

http://www.thegilpincasino.com/pokerroom.php

Frequent bad beats

That's just plain bad. They need to reword that.

-Ryan

TomBrooks 04-25-2005 02:00 PM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
I thought that was strange that they were touting "Frequent Bad Beats" also [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]. Do they mean they offer Bad Beat Jackpots?

smoore 04-25-2005 03:05 PM

Re: The Gilpin is where I play in CO from now on.
 
hahah, yeah... I noticed that too... but they ain't lyin! The suckout kings live in Colorado.

The "frequent bad beats" they refer to are "aces full of eights" beat to get the jackpot. This is also the place that drops $2 in the jackpot (total rake $5) if the pot gets big enough. Lots of rooms rake $5 and then take a $1 jackpot on the weekends though, so it's not too bad. Gilpin doesn't raise the rake on the weekends if I understood correctly.


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