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Prime Time 04-21-2005 11:19 PM

Hand for analysys
 


SusieQue is at seat 0 with 3280.
BabyJackJack is at seat 1 with 1825.
ElfinMagic is at seat 2 with 1975.
siska3 is at seat 3 with 2085.
PBOCOP is at seat 4 with 4520.
the_great is at seat 5 with 2695.
StockKiller is at seat 6 with 3030.
pok21KASS is at seat 7 with 745.
PGA71 is at seat 8 with 5015.
dano77 is at seat 9 with 4925.
The button is at seat 2.

siska3 posts the small blind of 15.
PBOCOP posts the big blind of 30.

SusieQue: -- --
BabyJackJack: -- --
ElfinMagic: -- --
siska3: -- --
PBOCOP: -- --
the_great: -- --
StockKiller: -- --
pok21KASS: -- --
PGA71: Th Jh
dano77: -- --

Pre-flop:

the_great folds. StockKiller folds. pok21KASS
folds. PGA71 calls. dano77 raises to 135.
SusieQue folds. BabyJackJack folds. ElfinMagic
folds. siska3 folds. PBOCOP folds. PGA71 calls.


Flop (board: Qd Tc 3h):

PGA71 bets 185. dano77 calls.

Turn (board: Qd Tc 3h 6h):

My action?

bugstud 04-21-2005 11:22 PM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
what UB tourn? I probably check. I may c/r allin if I have to, but I want to take his stack here.

Prime Time 04-21-2005 11:24 PM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
Aruca WPT sat.

Prime Time 04-21-2005 11:50 PM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
[ QUOTE ]
what UB tourn? I probably check. I may c/r allin if I have to, but I want to take his stack here.

[/ QUOTE ]

you have no fears of his pre-flop raise or Q on board?

My line was:
PGA71 bets 450. dano77 calls.

River (board: Qd Tc 3h 6h 6c):

Now what?

bugstud 04-22-2005 12:01 AM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
my fears are about not getting enough of my stack in to win chips [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I bet 750 and pray for a muck? I dunno, I hate satellites [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

woodguy 04-22-2005 12:05 AM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
Raise PF. (I really dislike opening a pot with a limp [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img])

You open limped with TJs so you are almost guaranteed to flop some sort of draw, and you are out of position to everyone who comes in for the minimum behind you, and shitty situations like this one come up to drain your nice stack.

Given the PF action, I would probably c/r the flop and be done if he is still interested.

River: He called twice so you are probably beat, but to me check/folding the river is too weak, so I'd probably bet 1/2 pot or less and pray he was drawing w/ AK, I've had people fold on the river for 1/2 pot when I was 99% sure I was not only beat but getting raised. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Regards,
Woodguy

Prime Time 04-22-2005 12:13 AM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
[ QUOTE ]
my fears are about not getting enough of my stack in to win chips [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I bet 750 and pray for a muck? I dunno, I hate satellites [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

very close.

PGA71 bets 950. dano77 goes all-in for 4155.

Oh shhhht!
Now what?

Prime Time 04-22-2005 12:22 AM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
good analysis.
exactly how it played out.

RandomUser 04-22-2005 12:27 AM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
If you think your T is good, call.

The other 90% of the time you fold and save most of your stack.

I think he sucked you in with JJ+, but there's a 10% chance he just AK.

willie 04-22-2005 01:19 AM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
my action?

fold preflop.

Iconoclastic 04-22-2005 01:49 AM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
Raise/fold preflop the first time, call after raise was good, check-raise flop, I might be inclined to fire another bullet on the turn depending on reads/gut feeling

CardSharpCook 04-22-2005 01:55 AM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
I really don't mind the call PF. You are holding a stack stealing hand. However, the flop brought no help. Check/fold and be done with it. I hate to keep applying limit lessons, but this is the only profitable way to play suited connectors. If you stick around every time you hit a pair (or worse, start betting every time you hit a pair) you're headed for the poor house in a hurry. You are only allowed to play these kinds of hands if you promise (yourself) that you won't try to get creative AF. PrimeTime, I play hands much worse than this all the time early in a tourney, but I know that I am playing poorly when I start betting them AF when the flop doesn't really hit me.

CSC

SossMan 04-22-2005 02:21 AM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
i don't get it at all. i fold preflop not once, but twice.
after that preflop debacle, i suppose you can dabble postflop, but once he calls your flop bet, i'm not putting any more chips out there.

tiger7210 04-22-2005 03:07 AM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
I make a semi bluff blocking bet of 360 which accomplishes 2 things. It gives him another chance to fold if he's on a mid pair or AK and also gives me 4-1 to hit my flush if he just flat calls behind again.

If you brick the river, i think I bet another 450 hoping to see a showdown as cheap as possible but I think the river depends a lot on any read you may have on villain. Would he slow roll you with such a draw heavy board on the turn. If you just put him on a draw or AK then i may check/call giving him the chance to bluff the river as if you missed your draw.

FWIW I fold this PF out of position without thinking twice so I don't get myself into this mess when the flop partially hits me.

Prime Time 04-22-2005 06:41 AM

Re: Hand for analysys
 
What can I say.
I had a brain fart, and lost my mind.


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