Critique
I'm was in early middle position with ATh, I raise to $2.00 in a .25/.50 cent NLHE game. I get 4 callers and the pot is $9.75 total. The board is 3c Jd 5s. Two people check to me. I bet $10. Everyone folds. Before folding someone makes a comment and another person made a comment after about how "interesting" it was that I bet $10 in a pot of $9.75. I picked up the $10 pot on a bluff and am wondering if there was a better way to play this.
I'm feeling a bit self-conscious about the remarks and am wondering how others would have played it. |
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a pot-sized continuation bet is pretty standard after raising pre-flop.
how many players? i don't raise ATs from anywhere on a full table. |
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Full table, 10 players. 4 took the flop.
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Yeah, you really shouldn't be playing ATs in MP for a raise, if you are going to be getting 4 people to the flop. The problem is that you end up having to make a huge continuation bet, and then when someone check/raises you (say with a set, or maybe just raises from behind with JJ), you end up losing a huge percentage of your stack.
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xorbie, would you have limped at least? Or would you not have played it at all?
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Limp preflop. ATs is not strong enough to be playing out of position if anyone calls your preflop raise. Even if you're at a really loose table, punish loose limpers by raising weaker hands in position, not out of it.
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I'm feeling a bit self-conscious about the remarks [/ QUOTE ] This makes me chuckle to myself under my breath. [ QUOTE ] wondering how others would have played it. [/ QUOTE ] The hand or your emotional breakdown when questioned? For the former, that depends a whole hell of a lot on the table texture, but your line won you $10 with A high, so it was fine. For the latter, I like to build an arrow out of chips pointing at the jackass who questions me, and let him know he is my next target. Then avoid all pots with him. |
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I would definitely limp with this in MP, even in EP at most tables. The key is that someone with JJ/QQ is going to be raising if they have it behind you, so you can just dump your hand (don't ever call raises with ATs or AJs unless you have a good read).
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xorbie, would you have limped at least? Or would you not have played it at all? [/ QUOTE ] i muck it in EP at a full table. but i'm tight. |
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i second that but i would play it on the button.
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] xorbie, would you have limped at least? Or would you not have played it at all? [/ QUOTE ] i muck it in EP at a full table. but i'm tight. [/ QUOTE ] |
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You should make a note on the player who made the comment, something to the effect of "moron". This guy obviously doesn't have much poker experience, or he would know a pot-sized bet from the pf raiser is pretty standard. As for the actual hand, that is pretty risky raising ATs OOP. Try to avoid building big pots with drawing hands out of position, this can lead to some very uncomfortble decisions later in the hand. Say the flop comes Ace high and someone behind you calls your pot-sized flop bet, now what are you going to do on the turn? JMO
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I like to build an arrow out of chips pointing at the jackass who questions me, and let him know he is my next target. Then avoid all pots with him. [/ QUOTE ] HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA thats hilarious, im gunna try that next home game i play, lol good stuff |
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Limp preflop. ATs is not strong enough to be playing out of position if anyone calls your preflop raise. Even if you're at a really loose table, punish loose limpers by raising weaker hands in position, not out of it. [/ QUOTE ] Second this. Just want to add that it wouldn't be a bad move to raise from MP ocassionally if the players behind you are tight enough that by raising you have a good chance to buy the button. On the flop continuation bets are a good thing most of the time. I typically make mine about 2/3 pot because I like to raise a lot of hands PF. On this flop though I wouldn't say a continuation bet is standard. Once you get 4-5 players in the pot it is less likely to win you the pot and you are probably chip spewing if you are always making contiuation bets in spots like this. It definetly is a table dependent thing. |
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