borgata wants a hundred bucks for a poker rate?
 

whats the deal here? just reserved a poker rate for next thursday and the chick on the phone said it'd be 100 even. i mention i heard something about $40 and she tells me the normal rate for thursday is 170 and i'm getting it discounted at 100. i don't get this, could somebody please explain?//??

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4 hours of poker play gets you a rate of $69 (i'm not real sure about this number....), and 8 hours of play gets you $39. plus tax.

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um, is that this coming thursday? if so its a holiday weekend

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That is the rate for a weekday holiday.

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Aren't there other places where 4 hours gets you a better rate? If you can find a better one, play the minimum there and then go to the Borg for the rest.

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its for next week, the 31st.

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I dunno, could april fools be a holiday? lol

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whats the deal here? just reserved a poker rate for next thursday and the chick on the phone said it'd be 100 even. i mention i heard something about $40 and she tells me the normal rate for thursday is 170 and i'm getting it discounted at 100. i don't get this, could somebody please explain?//??

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That is the poker rate, once you play the 4/6 hr of required time your rate drops. When you check out ask the front desk to call the poker room.

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yea, just remembered, the poker rate is $100, discountable to 39 after eight hours of play. they will charge your credit card that amount and credit it back to you a day or two after you check-out.

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yea, just remembered, the poker rate is $100, discountable to 39 after eight hours of play. they will charge your credit card that amount and credit it back to you a day or two after you check-out.

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No--you only pay your final room bill at checkout.

If you use a check card, however, they will charge something like 300 bucks on it when you check in as a room deposit. That's what gets charged back a few days later.

scrub

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Also, none of you should be worrying about managing to play the full 8 hours. The Borgata collects cards at like 5 am for the new day. As long as they don't collect the cards at a time when you're clocked in but not in the room, they can't tell whether or not you've played poker for all the hours your card has been clocked in for.

So, right after you check in to the hotel, sit down in a game and clock in. Stay clocked in whether or not you're still playing until you feel like going to bed, then go down and clock out. If you're staying for multiple days, stay up until they collect the cards for the new day, then sleep really late and you'll have your room rate taken care of by the time you wake up.

scrub

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scrub,

thanks for the tips. much appreciated.

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its for next week, the 31st.

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I'd call them and verify, that doesn't seem correct. You should get the weekday rate based on hours played. They may have confused the weekends.

Have you called back?

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Also, none of you should be worrying about managing to play the full 8 hours. The Borgata collects cards at like 5 am for the new day. As long as they don't collect the cards at a time when you're clocked in but not in the room, they can't tell whether or not you've played poker for all the hours your card has been clocked in for.

So, right after you check in to the hotel, sit down in a game and clock in. Stay clocked in whether or not you're still playing until you feel like going to bed, then go down and clock out. If you're staying for multiple days, stay up until they collect the cards for the new day, then sleep really late and you'll have your room rate taken care of by the time you wake up.

scrub

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Teh Sneaky Swindler

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nah not yet, seems the general consensus here is that i'm getting the reservation for 100 and then after i play the 8 hours, they knock 60 off my bill? i'm heading down there sometime this weekend and am gonna talk it over with the floor just to be sure. thanks for the help though.

avid,

if you reserve a poker rate, do they quote you a price on the phone at $40?

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nah not yet, seems the general consensus here is that i'm getting the reservation for 100 and then after i play the 8 hours, they knock 60 off my bill? i'm heading down there sometime this weekend and am gonna talk it over with the floor just to be sure. thanks for the help though.

avid,

if you reserve a poker rate, do they quote you a price on the phone at $40?

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Did you call the poker room to make the rezo, or did you go through normal chanels? I call the poker room directly to get the rates.

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if you reserve a poker rate, do they quote you a price on the phone at $40?

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No they quote you the rate of $100 because that's what you'll be paying whether you actually play any poker or not. Once you play 4 hours ($59) or 8 ($39), the rate drops. When you check out, they will call the poker room, verify how many hours you played, and adjust your rate.

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nah, i called the 1866 myborga number on the back of the swipe card. didn't even think to call the poker room, you're a wise man TT.

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nah, i called the 1866 myborga number on the back of the swipe card. didn't even think to call the poker room, you're a wise man TT.

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Logical perhaps (although some would disagree)... wise never. Good luck mate!

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just learn to count a decent game, play their 6-decker which used to be the best in AC.. not saying much... but the comps are great, do some break even play and the room is free... food too [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

it's a good side-gig if the borgata suck-outs become unbearable

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Also, none of you should be worrying about managing to play the full 8 hours. The Borgata collects cards at like 5 am for the new day. As long as they don't collect the cards at a time when you're clocked in but not in the room, they can't tell whether or not you've played poker for all the hours your card has been clocked in for.

So, right after you check in to the hotel, sit down in a game and clock in. Stay clocked in whether or not you're still playing until you feel like going to bed, then go down and clock out. If you're staying for multiple days, stay up until they collect the cards for the new day, then sleep really late and you'll have your room rate taken care of by the time you wake up.

scrub

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Teh Sneaky Swindler

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The funny thing is that I play like 18 legit hours every day I'm there anyway, so I don't usually do it. It's why you see a lot of people playing until they collect cards and then getting up the next time there's a time collection, though...

Also, I forgot to mention that the best possible room rate is when a cool guy like AviD lets you crash on his extra bed when you're there without a room...:)

scrub

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Also, I forgot to mention that the best possible room rate is when a cool guy like AviD lets you crash on his extra bed when you're there without a room...:)

scrub

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AviD rules!

- Tash

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nah not yet, seems the general consensus here is that i'm getting the reservation for 100 and then after i play the 8 hours, they knock 60 off my bill? i'm heading down there sometime this weekend and am gonna talk it over with the floor just to be sure. thanks for the help though.

avid,

if you reserve a poker rate, do they quote you a price on the phone at $40?

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What I do is call reservations and book a room for N days at the poker rate. They quote me the poker rate for those days, which for me is pretty much exclusively weekends and holidays...so I have no clue about midweek rates. I've only paid $100 and $125 to stay per night, regardless of hours played.

I think if you call tell them to book your room (midweek) for the poker rate, they will charge you whatever the full poker rate is (regardless of hours played) and adjust it based on the hours you played. I don't think there is a need to have the poker desk call the front desk when you book a room in advance. The front desk will just check your hours on their computer and adjust your room price accordingly.

Getting the poker desk involved is only for when you are trying to get a room that same day you went down to play...not for when you reserve ahead of time.

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if you reserve a poker rate, do they quote you a price on the phone at $40?

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No they quote you the rate of $100 because that's what you'll be paying whether you actually play any poker or not.

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I'm curious if this is true. I believe you have to play at some point to actually get the poker rate, otherwise they will charge you the full amount.

Someone please verify, because if I go down to stay at the Borgata but want to play at the Taj...I figure I'll have to sit the Borgata for at least one dealer just to get my poker rated room on the weekends. Truth?

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if you reserve a poker rate, do they quote you a price on the phone at $40?

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No they quote you the rate of $100 because that's what you'll be paying whether you actually play any poker or not.

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I'm curious if this is true. I believe you have to play at some point to actually get the poker rate, otherwise they will charge you the full amount.

Someone please verify, because if I go down to stay at the Borgata but want to play at the Taj...I figure I'll have to sit the Borgata for at least one dealer just to get my poker rated room on the weekends. Truth?

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if you reserve your poker rate room early enough (which apparently is greater than a week in advance) for a weekend, you should get the rate of $125 per night. and this rate does not go down on weekends, its 125 no matter how long you play. if you get the poker rate room for a weekend, im not sure if you have to even play poker. (probably you do, you should call)

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Also, none of you should be worrying about managing to play the full 8 hours. The Borgata collects cards at like 5 am for the new day. As long as they don't collect the cards at a time when you're clocked in but not in the room, they can't tell whether or not you've played poker for all the hours your card has been clocked in for.

So, right after you check in to the hotel, sit down in a game and clock in. Stay clocked in whether or not you're still playing until you feel like going to bed, then go down and clock out. If you're staying for multiple days, stay up until they collect the cards for the new day, then sleep really late and you'll have your room rate taken care of by the time you wake up.

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Sorry but this doesn't seem possible. I find it hard to believe that if you are clocked in and leave, then someone fills that seat the computer system doesn't recognize that you are not playing, and subsequently clock you out. Especially since there are a finite amount of seats, (say 500) if 501+ people are clocked in that is pretty good proof that not all of those clocked are playing. Casino tracking systems must be much more sophisticated than you purport them to be considering your proposition could cost the Borgata hundreds of thousands of dollars over the course of a year.

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Sorry but this doesn't seem possible. I find it hard to believe that if you are clocked in and leave, then someone fills that seat the computer system doesn't recognize that you are not playing, and subsequently clock you out.

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how does the computer know who left?
im fairly certain scrubs technique works (ive been doing similar for a while)

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I'm cynical and skeptical b/c the floor should have some regulation over this

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Why would the floor care if they are giving out too many comp dollars?

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AFAIK, the only thing they note when clocking you in is the limit you're playing (so it knows what to give you per hour). I doubt they note the table number and seat number. They have too much to do to worry about someone abusing them for an extra 10 in comp dollars...obv. if you were very abusive, they might catch it (like you never played at all). I think they expect a little abuse on this, but who knows.

Jeff

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Sorry but this doesn't seem possible. I find it hard to believe that if you are clocked in and leave, then someone fills that seat the computer system doesn't recognize that you are not playing,

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When they clock you in they don't know what seat you're in. I doubt they even record the table. Otherwise they'd know what seat to give the card to when they came back to the table, heck sometimes they don't get the right table :0)