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jaxmike 03-21-2005 12:07 PM

Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3pg1.htm

Apparently the editor of Playgirl outed herself as a Republican and was fired for it.

cardcounter0 03-21-2005 12:38 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
If it is in Drudge, then it must be true.
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jaxmike 03-21-2005 01:03 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
your ignorance in ignoring a story because you dont trust the source (when has drudge been wrong?) is telling. forget the FACTS of the story, the source makes it worth ignoring.

cardcounter0 03-21-2005 01:15 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
What is to ignore? The republican party goes out of its way to court religious fundamentalists, and has fired up censorship of the media (recently appointed a conservative christian to head up the FCC). So a liberal publication like Playboy fires a republican? So what? If I ran a meat packing plant, I would probably fire members of PETA too.
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jaxmike 03-21-2005 01:20 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
wow, your "point" is nonsense. please tell me how exactly it is tolerant to fire someone for how they voted. then, explain to me how this is equal to bush appointing a conservative christian to head up the FCC. you make no sense at all, though its to be expected given your ideology.

cardcounter0 03-21-2005 01:30 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
WOW, wait till the effects of the kool-aid wears off, and then reread my post. The person voted for the anti-playboy party, why should playboy continue to pay them?

Of course, that is ignoring that the Drudge Report isn't actually the most reliable source for facts. So the story might not be true, and if it is, so what? Only your kool-aid induced dementia makes this seem like a 'story' to you.

xadrez 03-21-2005 01:33 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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your ignorance in ignoring a story because you dont trust the source (when has drudge been wrong?) is telling. forget the FACTS of the story, the source makes it worth ignoring.

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LOL
Jaxmike, you routinely dismiss anything cited from supposed "liberal" sources.

jaxmike 03-21-2005 02:07 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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Of course, that is ignoring that the Drudge Report isn't actually the most reliable source for facts.

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Give me examples of Drudge being wrong. Say what you want about his motives, but his reports are indeed accurate.

EarlCat 03-21-2005 02:12 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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WOW, wait till the effects of the kool-aid wears off, and then reread my post. The person voted for the anti-playboy party, why should playboy continue to pay them?

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Ummm...it was Playgirl, and when has there ever been GOP legislation seeking to regulate the content of Playgirl?

Censorship and decency regulation are not exclusively GOP issues... remember Al and Tipper's attack on the music industry??

slickpoppa 03-21-2005 02:25 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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Of course, that is ignoring that the Drudge Report isn't actually the most reliable source for facts.

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Give me examples of Drudge being wrong. Say what you want about his motives, but his reports are indeed accurate.

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Drudge may never have technically been wrong because he always covers his a$$ by merely posting what others news sources, however flimsy, have said. That's the beauty of never actually taking responsibility for stories like real news outlets. So although Drudge has never been wrong, he has certainly posted stories that could best be characterized as unsubstanntiated gossip. The perfect example was the whole fiasco with John Kerry apparentlty having an affair with someone woman who moved to Africa. There was basically no evidence for it and the story had no merit being in any periodical above the National Enquirer, but Drudge posted it anyway.

Broken Glass Can 03-21-2005 02:28 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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WOW, wait till the effects of the kool-aid wears off, and then reread my post. The person voted for the anti-playboy party, why should playboy continue to pay them?


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So, you must also agree with all those churches out there who do not want to be forced to hire gays or other people who are openly in sin (by the employer church's standards). You certainly wouldn't be inconsistent in respect to whether an employer has the right to make employment decisions based on the beliefs of the employee.

cardcounter0 03-21-2005 02:44 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
typical conservative dementia. Churches are not required to hire gays, have never been required, and no one is trying to require it.

Matty 03-21-2005 04:45 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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(when has drudge been wrong?)

[/ QUOTE ]Holy [censored].

AngryCola 03-21-2005 04:49 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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The source makes it worth ignoring.

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Even if the facts are right in this case, the above statement is definitely true.

jaxmike 03-21-2005 05:04 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
fine you idiots. how is this for a source??? its [censored] unbelievable how ignorant you libs are when you are proven yet again to be biggoted hypocrites.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050308/nytu139_1.html

CORed 03-21-2005 05:08 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
I wouldn't call it tolerant, but I think it is perfectly reasonable for a business to fire someone for voting for a party that wants to put them out of business. Another point: We have a secret ballot in this country, so if the editor of playgirl had been smart enough to keep her mouth shut, her emploayer would never have known how whe voted.

AngryCola 03-21-2005 05:13 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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fine you idiots. how is this for a source??? its [censored] unbelievable how ignorant you libs are when you are proven yet again to be biggoted hypocrites.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050308/nytu139_1.html

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Huh?

I'm not a liberal. I just realize how horrible your originial source is. Nice choice of words, though.
How very mature of you. It's always funny how neo-cons like to lump all people who disagree with them into one group. I suppose that makes it easier for them.

Also, I hope you have a Merry Christmas.

jaxmike 03-21-2005 05:24 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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I'm not a liberal.

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Socialist? Communist?

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I just realize how horrible your originial source is.

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Saying something doesn't make it true. You have no basis to claim this. PROVE to me that Drudge is not a good source.

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It's always funny how neo-cons like to lump all people who disagree with them into one group. I suppose that makes it easier for them.

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That's like the pot calling the kettle black isn't it? Liberals claim everyone is a neo-con. I am not a neo-con by the way, but nice try. Way to come through with supporting your position....

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Also, I hope you have a Merry Christmas.

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And I hope you do as well.

AngryCola 03-21-2005 05:29 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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I'm not a liberal.

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Socialist? Communist?

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Is this a joke?
I hope so, because I'm neither.
In fact, I'm more conservative than most 'Republicans'.
Nice try, though.

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That's like the pot calling the kettle black isn't it? Liberals claim everyone is a neo-con. I am not a neo-con by the way, but nice try. Way to come through with supporting your position....

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What's my position, again? You'll have to tell me since you know so much more about me than I do. For your information, what you were quoting was my exceptional sarcasm.

What?

You didn't get it?

That's not surprising.

Take a pill and calm down. All I said was that Drudge is not a reliable source. OTHER PEOPLE have already mentioned why, and I'm not going to debate a fool about it.

You're obviously a bigger idiot than most on here.
If you can't see why, well... I'm not surprised.
I bet there's a whole lot you don't see.

Dead 03-21-2005 05:32 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
AngryCola- a conservative? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

AngryCola 03-21-2005 05:36 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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AngryCola- a conservative? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I hate to classify myself at all.

I don't agree with either party, but I have a lot more 'conservative' type stances on a lot of issues. One could say that my positions are often more conservative than the Republican's.

But don't get any religious issues mixed in with that. When I say conservative, I'm not using the word as it is so often thrown around these days. I'm using it in its more literal sense.

jaxmike 03-21-2005 05:40 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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What's my position, again? You'll have to tell me since you know so much more about me than I do.

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you said...
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Even if the facts are right in this case, the above statement is definitely true.

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that is your position, you, and every other poster, has failed to prove this.

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For your information, what you were quoting was my exceptional sarcasm.

What?

You didn't get it?

That's not surprising.

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I am sorry, but this doesn't express much sarcasm....
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It's always funny how neo-cons like to lump all people who disagree with them into one group. I suppose that makes it easier for them.

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It smells of condescendence, but not sarcasm...



[/ QUOTE ]Take a pill and calm down. All I said was that Drudge is not a reliable source. OTHER PEOPLE have already mentioned why, and I'm not going to debate a fool about it.

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When I posted that it just happened to be your post that I replied to. You, and the other posters, complained about a source which has been very reliable, far more so than any network news station or the WP and NYT. I called you (the collective Drudge haters) and still have yet to been proven wrong that he is reliable.

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You're obviously a bigger idiot than most on here.

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People fear those who are more intelligent than them, I have learned to accept it.

[qoute]If you can't see why, well... I'm not surprised.
I bet there's a whole lot you don't see.

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Not the least of which is others proving me wrong.

Il_Mostro 03-21-2005 05:51 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
Why is this typical? What pattern does it fit into? How is that pattern different between "liberal" and "conservative" publications?

And, what is you definition of a liberal?

AngryCola 03-21-2005 05:53 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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People fear those who are more intelligent than them, I have learned to accept it.

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Since I am clearly far more intelligent than you (see all of your posts for details), I don't really think you could handle any discussions we could have in the future.

Feel free to respond to this with another horrible attempt at an insult, but I won't dignify it with a response.

Politics trolls really aren't worth much of my time.
If you want, you can pay me to debate you. Many like you have taken this route, as they realize how valuable my insights truely are.

jaxmike 03-21-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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Since I am clearly far more intelligent than you (see all of your posts for details),

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Since I was right, and you were wrong, I am interested to hear exactly how you make this leap in logic.

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I don't really think you could handle any discussions we could have in the future.

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Perhaps if you are referring to my patience this would be true.

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Feel free to respond to this with another horrible attempt at an insult, but I won't dignify it with a response.

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The last bastion of the defeated.

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Politics trolls really aren't worth much of my time.
If you want, you can pay me to debate you. Many like you have taken this route, as they realize how valuable my insights truely are.

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I would never pay you to debate me. You clearly do not debate. You have backed up nothing with an argument. You are indeed the troll.

EarlCat 03-21-2005 08:17 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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I wouldn't call it tolerant, but I think it is perfectly reasonable for a business to fire someone for voting for a party that wants to put them out of business.

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When did the GOP try to put playgirl out of business?

bholdr 03-22-2005 03:42 AM

BZZZZZT! wrong again!
 
there is a big difference between firing someone for a CHOICE that they have made (such as being a republican or engaging in homosexual sex)) and firing someone because of WHO THEY ARE, or how they identify themelves (such as BEING gay or african american).

you are smart enough to make this distinction.

QuadsOverQuads 03-22-2005 03:48 AM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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fine you idiots. how is this for a source??? its [censored] unbelievable how ignorant you libs are when you are proven yet again to be biggoted hypocrites.

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"You libs"? From what I can see, not even the conservatives here take your bullsh_t seriously anymore.


q/q

QuadsOverQuads 03-22-2005 03:52 AM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 

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People fear those who are more intelligent than them, I have learned to accept it.

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Oh my God, jaxmike is really Phil Hellmuth! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]


q/q

nicky g 03-22-2005 05:44 AM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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fine you idiots. how is this for a source??? its [censored] unbelievable how ignorant you libs are when you are proven yet again to be biggoted hypocrites.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050308/nytu139_1.html

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Um, this source doesn't say anything about her being fired. It's a press release promoting her article about voting for Bush, issued by... Playgirl. Strike 1078 for jax the genius. Also -10 points to everyone else for failing to spot this. A pity you didn't got the whole hog again and point to an article that directly contradicted your entire position like you did on Iraq, but never mind.

If she was fired for having voted Republican that is very wrong IMO. It doesn't prove anything about "liberals" in general however. I'm not sure you have any business complaining about it as you strike me as the sort of free market conservative that believes corporations should be able to fire people for any reason whatsoever (would you have been so upset if she'd been fired for being a member of a union?), but perhaps I'm wrong. I also suspect it may not be the case as so far we have no sources other than Drudge for this, and it seems a little unlikely the magazine would heavily promote the article, and then fire her for having written it.

jaxmike 03-22-2005 11:59 AM

Re: BZZZZZT! wrong again!
 
prove to me that its not a choice.

jaxmike 03-22-2005 11:59 AM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
still yet to be proven wrong.....

jaxmike 03-22-2005 12:03 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
never satisfied despite overwhelming evidence. i still have NOT been proven wrong.

nicky g 03-22-2005 12:11 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
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never satisfied despite overwhelming evidence. i still have NOT been proven wrong.

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Uh-huh. So the link you posted wasn't a press release from Playgirl promoting her article about voting conservative?

jaxmike 03-22-2005 12:30 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
the second was, the first was about her being fired for it.

nicky g 03-22-2005 12:32 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
Right. Thank you. But you posted it as something corroborating the first one when it doesn't, and if anything makes it look somewhat unlikely.

jaxmike 03-22-2005 12:34 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
only if you WANT to BELIEVE its not true...

no, its provides the background.

nicky g 03-22-2005 12:36 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
So when you posted this:

"fine you idiots. how is this for a source??? its [censored] unbelievable how ignorant you libs are when you are proven yet again to be biggoted hypocrites."

you weren't in anyway suggesting that this corroborated the first story, but were just helpfully offering some background to the story? I see.

jaxmike 03-22-2005 01:02 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
apparently people don't think Drudge is trustworthy, though for what reason I am totally unsure. the link that I posted was to corroborate the drudge report. if you read the two of them, you will see what each has to do with the other.

the second link was the one that Drudge was working off of when he posted the first story. please understand that.

nicky g 03-22-2005 01:15 PM

Re: Typical Liberal Tolerance
 
OK so now it was aparently to corroborate and not just provide background. Make your mind up.

It says absolutely nothing about her being fired, never mind for any voiced political beliefs, and in fact promotes her piece about voting Republican. So it doesn't corroborate the Drudge story at all beynd confirming that she wrote the piece. Right?


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