Tom McEvoy
 

how many tournaments has he won? I have heard that many people think he is the worst player to ever win the main event. was the PPT the first tournament he has won since the WSOP?

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I have heard that many people think he is the worst player to ever win the main event. [quote/]

Who says this? Varkoni I thought held this dubious honor.

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I saw it somewhere. it was actually a tie for mcevoy and varkonyi as worst world champs. I think I saw it on RGP maybe a year ago? I don't take rgp too seriously, which I why i'm asking here.

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how many tournaments has he won? I have heard that many people think he is the worst player to ever win the main event. was the PPT the first tournament he has won since the WSOP?

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Tom McEvoy has won 3 other events other than his 83 ME victory (83 Limit HE, 86 Razz, 92 Limit Omaha)

Aside from Varkonyi, I hear some fairly unflattering things about Noel Furlong (99 champ)

As for you original question, aside from Varkoni

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DN said something about hal fowler (?) and brad daughtery being the worst.

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Varkonyi is by FAR the worst.

Nobody else is even close.

McEvoy is a decent player...

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DN said something about hal fowler (?) and brad daughtery being the worst.

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he's also said that russ hamilton doesn't play too well.

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Try not to take this place too seriously, either.

This place is no different than any other DB in that there is a huge Lemming Factor. Witness the 8000 Alizee icons sprouting up. If Ed Miller uses Phyllis Diller as his icon next week and posts what a babe she is, half the board will have Phyllis Diller icons within 24 hours, and there will be dozens of polls proving she's the sexiest chick over 70. The same goes for who is not liked ("Who do we hate this week, again?")

Most members here--myself included--haven't been around poker long enough to know anyone prior to Varkonyi, aside from the "legends".

Anyway... I think either Daugherty or Fowler (I could be way off) is generally considered by poker pros/historians to be the most overrated and/or luckiest winner. Personally, I think Varkonyi gets a bad rap just because he's a total geek.

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Personally, I think Varkonyi gets a bad rap just because he's a total geek.

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that adds to what so many people think he's the worst, but don't forget how lucky he got at that final table. it was ridiculous.

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Alizee has been an internet icon for ages dude, she's got staying power, not some flash in the pan fad.

As an animated gif that is, not as a singer. Har har.

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DN said something about hal fowler (?) and brad daughtery being the worst.

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Him saying Daugherty was a joke. He knows Brad is an excellent player.

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TJ also mentions Hal Fowler in his book.

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I've played at the same table as Tom in three NL events with $1-2k buy-ins. Each time we were fairly far along into the event. Tom is a solid player. However, his play is much different than most of the other 'name' pros that I've played with. Most of the big name guys take a very aggressive stance and try to control the table with lots of raising and re-raising. They also see lots of flops with less than premium hands. Tom appears to be more of a solid type player. I assume he is able to change speeds and get much looser and more aggressive, but I didn't see much of that in the 5-6 hours that I've played with him.

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Personally, I think Varkonyi gets a bad rap just because he's a total geek.

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that adds to what so many people think he's the worst, but don't forget how lucky he got at that final table. it was ridiculous.

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Varkonyi gets a bad rap because he got hit over the head with the deck. When someone gets an unusual amount of premium hands, every average joe thinks they could have done it too.

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I don't think tom plays a lot of big buy-in events outside of the WSOP. It seems he plays a lot of stuff in the 200-2000 range.

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Tom McEvoy is a damn good player....

Perhaps not one of the top players on circuit but a legit champ who has won several other bracelets. This thread is ridiculous he is 10X the player Varkonyi is.

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When he got busted out of the '03 event, Doyle made a comment to ESPN to the effect that Varkoni was a donkey and he would never come close to winning a bracelet again.

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i think it's interesting that this thread was started after McEvoy just won another large tournament. don't you think this is confirming his ability? it's the same as when moneymaker made it to the final three of a wpt event after his wsop victory...people still think he's a fish?! i just don't understand it. people need to acknowledge that even Varkoni has to be a decent player. i'm sure he's a strong candidate for wost player to ever win at the same time. but once someone wins a second and a third major field tournament...quit asking stupid questions about how bad they may be.

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i think it's interesting that this thread was started after McEvoy just won another large tournament. don't you think this is confirming his ability? it's the same as when moneymaker made it to the final three of a wpt event after his wsop victory...people still think he's a fish?! i just don't understand it. people need to acknowledge that even Varkoni has to be a decent player. i'm sure he's a strong candidate for wost player to ever win at the same time. but once someone wins a second and a third major field tournament...quit asking stupid questions about how bad they may be.

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I was just asking about McEvoy because everyone (pokerpages, cardplayer) said "wow, tom mcevoy won a tournament" like it was unbelievable so I was just wondering if he had won any other titles.

I don't think i've heard anyone call moneymaker a donkey after his wpt and his cashes in the recent wsop. he's proved himself so that's why no one talks about him anymore.

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I think I saw it on RGP maybe a year ago? ...which is why I'm washing my eyes out with bleach and trying to forget it ever happened.

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FYP

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http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/play...om_McEvoy.html

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Did he get a job (or switch to fulltime live game play, or start a business) from 2001 onward? Its kinda hard to put food on the table with those kinds of earnings especially after deducting the buy-ins off those winnings. I assume that he was no longer a tournament specialist from 2001 to the present.

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And I assume you've watched and analyzed every world champion since the inception of the tournament?

How exactly can you make this statement? I can say that from what I know of the last 12 or so chapions, Varkoni seems to be the worst, but I don't know of all the champions before that time, and I suspect you don't either.

Peace

Goodie

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http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/play...om_McEvoy.html

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Did he get a job (or switch to fulltime live game play, or start a business) from 2001 onward? Its kinda hard to put food on the table with those kinds of earnings especially after deducting the buy-ins off those winnings. I assume that he was no longer a tournament specialist from 2001 to the present.

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Well, he writes for cardplayer, is a spokesman for Pokerstars, and he plays there too, saw him win 3rd in a 200 PLO tournament in the last week or two. Writes the Championship and New Player Series poker books. He has also done a few commercials for poker products and hosts tournaments at some of the Indian casinos.

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Did he get a job (or switch to fulltime live game play, or start a business) from 2001 onward? Its kinda hard to put food on the table with those kinds of earnings especially after deducting the buy-ins off those winnings. I assume that he was no longer a tournament specialist from 2001 to the present.

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He is not making a living from major tournaments, but that doesn't mean he is not a tournament specialist. Most of the tournaments they show him cashing in are about $1500 buyin, so I assume he doesn't generally play in the biggest ones. There are plenty of $500+ buyin daily tournaments in LV and plenty of tournaments online. It's also possible he makes a lot of his income from cash games.

Poker Stars has a regular feature where the winner of their leader board for the week plays Tom McEvoy. McEvoy usually wins, so assume he is not that bad a player.

Moss, Brunson, Ungar, and Chan have won the WSOP more than once. Harrington made the top 4 the last two times. Winning the WSOP once does not mean you are a world class player. McEvoy can probably be grouped with Varkonyi, Moneymaker, and Furlong as weak WSOP champions, but he is more of a proven successful professional than any of those.

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Tom is a notable poker book author and a player, geeez this is a dumb question.

Didn't Amarillo Slim win it? Let's put his name on the list since he won it when it was what, under 50 people? What has he done lately (last many years) except be brought up on charges?

It's just a card game, don't make it much more than that, these people are not outstanding citizens or brain surgeons by default.

>TW<

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but once someone wins a second and a third major field tournament...quit asking stupid questions about how bad they may be.

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You apparently have a lot to learn.