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If we found that water was present on mars at one time, and that there was life at one time, would this disprove our bible?

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I think the exsistence of dinosaurs already disproves most religious books. However, you're not really supposed to believe everything from religious books, they're basically fables. Weird stories with a moral.

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I think the exsistence of dinosaurs already disproves most religious books.

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How come?

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I think the exsistence of dinosaurs already disproves most religious books.

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How come?

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Exactly. God put the dinosaurs there to test us. tbach has failed. Have fun with your eternal damnation.

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"On the first day God created Heaven/Earth...and then on the last day God rested."

Seven days of creation, no dinosaurs.

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has anyone seen a dinosaur? all we have are fossils, and those are part of "heaven and earth"

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has anyone seen a dinosaur? all we have are fossils, and those are part of "heaven and earth"

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nh.

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I don't think it's unreasonable to say that they did, in fact, roam this planet at one time.

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has anyone seen a dinosaur? all we have are fossils, and those are part of "heaven and earth"

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I've seen a dinosaur. Komoto (sp?) dragon. Alligator. Anyone else care to chime in?

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I don't think it's unreasonable to say that they did, in fact, roam this planet at one time.

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Prove it.

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has anyone seen a dinosaur? all we have are fossils, and those are part of "heaven and earth"

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I've seen a dinosaur. Komoto (sp?) dragon. Alligator. Anyone else care to chime in?

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Komodo Dragons

They share a common past with dinosaurs but are not direct descendants.

So, assuming dinosaurs DID exist, komodo dragons are not dinosaurs, nor even direct descendents.

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If we found that water was present on mars at one time, and that there was life at one time, would this disprove our bible?

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This would not disprove the bible more than any number of things do now, like heavy scientific evidence showing the life of the earth being atleast a few billion years, and probably around 15 billion.

Most Christians don't read the bible as completely literal, and consequently nothing is really proven wrong.

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life of the earth being atleast a few billion years, and probably around 15 billion.

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Earth = 4.6 billion years, no?
Life = 3.5 billion years, no?

I think those are the numbers, please correct me if I'm wrong. Old testament = 5.8k years old, earth = MUCH older

Also, like you said (and I said in my original response), religious books are not to be taken literally, but to be taken as a fable-type thing.

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heavy scientific evidence showing the life of the earth being atleast a few billion years, and probably around 15 billion.

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That's older than some estimates on the age of the Universe!

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Yeah, but as I have learned, there are tons of Christians who actually believe the earth is 6k years old. I am sure there are a few on this board.

Arguments for this usually involve the great flood, which was mentioned in the bible, which they say greatly skewed fossils and other things we use to reason how old the earth is (riiiiiiiight). They also believe man lived at the same time as dinosaurs, and of course the infamous 'there is no such thing as evolution'.

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HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAH

I guess santa and the easter bunny exsist as well

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"On the first day God created Heaven/Earth...and then on the last day God rested."

Seven days of creation, no dinosaurs.

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What you skipped is important. Particularlly

Genesis 1:24
And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures acording to their kinds; livestock; creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so.


I think this leaves plenty of room for dinosaurs.

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The Bible says nothing about the age of the earth.

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HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAH

I guess santa and the easter bunny exsist as well

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Want to be frustrated? Get into a theological argument with one of these guys. Once the 'all forms of life lived at the exact same time despite all scientific evidence' argument comes up, it usually gets nasty.

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The Bible says nothing about the age of the earth.

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Um... have you read the bible?

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5.7k years ago... first thing that I could think of over 5.7k years old

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5.7k years ago... first thing that I could think of over 5.7k years old

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NO, your WRONG, the great flood eroded these artifacts, which were actually created in the early 1970s in Harlem.

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5.7k years ago... first thing that I could think of over 5.7k years old

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Once again, PROVE IT. I maintain God left it there to test us.

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The Bible is silent on the presence of water on mars. It also says nothing about life on other planets. I don't think such a discovery would disprove the Bible any more than the invention of Coke with lime would demonstrate Einstein's theory of relativity.

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Okay, please explain the idea behind the Hebrew calendar then? Is the start (something like 5785 years ago) totally arbitrary?

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5.7k years ago

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Please point me to the passage in the Bible where it says 5.7k years ago. You won't find it.

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5.7k years ago... first thing that I could think of over 5.7k years old

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Once again, PROVE IT. I maintain God left it there to test us.

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If you want to think that, then there's nothing that I will or want to do to change that. Religion is empowering, I am just saying that taking religious books word for word is ridiculous. I believe in God, but I know that there is minimal truth in the Torah (or any other religious book).

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Yes. The entire thing at least twice. Have you?

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5.7k years ago

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Please point me to the passage in the Bible where it says 5.7k years ago. You won't find it.

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It is done from tracing the history in the bible... there is no passage saying "thus book thous are reading is 5700 years old", but I think everyone else knew that.

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I really have no idea which side of the argument you are on?

Do you take the bible literally, or not so literally? How old do you believe the earth is?

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Well, I know very little about the Hebrew calander, but I would guess that it was started thousands of years after 5785 years ago. At that time it was probably someones best guess as to the age of the earth. It may be like how the Christian calander was not set up for a few hundred years after Jesus, and it is likely that Jesus was not actually Born on December 25, 1 B.C.

But you should really fond someone more enlightened on this subject than myself.

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has anyone seen a dinosaur?

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Duh, am I the only one who saw Jurassic Park? Obviously Dinosaurs are real and were genetically re-engineered in the late 80's on a remote tropical island.

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As I said, the Bible says nothing about the age of the earth. Any attempt to figure the age of the earth from the Bible would be open to interpretion, and there is no reason to believe it can be done at all.

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As I said, the Bible says nothing about the age of the earth. Any attempt to figure the age of the earth from the Bible would be open to interpretion, and there is no reason to believe it can be done at all.

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This is what I thought, we are actually agreeing. Those who take the bible literally actually trace from Adam and Eve, and have constructed timelines completely from the word of the bible (I have seen them :shudders:).

I agree it is pointless to look for the age of the earth or other highly scientific things in the bible.

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Come on! The psychology forum is where religion threads belong.

This has been decided in the past.

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I really have no idea which side of the argument you are on?

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I'm glad.

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Do you take the bible literally, or not so literally?

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Even if I took the Bible literally (which I don't always do), I still would know nothing about the age of the earth

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How old do you believe the earth is?

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I think it is likely that the earth is a few billion years old. Although when God is involved, you never know (the earth migh be just a few seconds old).

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Once again, PROVE IT. I maintain God left it there to test us.

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You bring up a great point. When someone is mentally incapable of understanding the proofs in question, there is no point in trying to present them.

I can't believe that you are now saying that Egypt didn't exist when it did. I've heard the dinosaur argument before, but this is a new one. I salute you.

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This is what I thought, we are actually agreeing. Those who take the bible literally actually trace from Adam and Eve, and have constructed timelines completely from the word of the bible (I have seen them :shudders:).


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It is likely that those timelines have huge gaps in them, as the Bible does not provide a continueous history (geneologies often skip several generations, and there is no accounting for the time between creation and the creation of Adam (unless you take the "days" of creation to be literal "days"), and more importantly there is no accounting for the time between the creation of Adam, and the fall.)

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Once again, PROVE IT. I maintain God left it there to test us.

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You bring up a great point. When someone is mentally incapable of understanding the proofs in question, there is no point in trying to present them.

I can't believe that you are now saying that Egypt didn't exist when it did. I've heard the dinosaur argument before, but this is a new one. I salute you.

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I'm just playing devil's advocate. I'm a 100% atheist. I was trying to get some of the agnostic/atheist crowd to come up with some intelligent arguments but apparently I've failed miserably. Or you have. Take your pick.