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the various threads are all over the place. i think we need to get some decisions made; the scrambled nature of discussion is driving me a bit batty.

the nature of this decion-making, as i far as i can tell, is that Ten absorbs all the white noise, makes decisions based on that absorption, guides the artists, and then posts pics.

ten: lay those mock-ups on us, man. we need to refocus discussion.

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the various threads are all over the place. i think we need to get some decisions made; the scrambled nature of discussion is driving me a bit batty.

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ten: lay those mock-ups on us, man. we need to refocus discussion.

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I understand your frustration, and I could see it coming. I feel the same way. But I honestly feel that posting designs that aren't up to my own standards is not the way to go. That will cause even more confusion, and will not help speed up the process.

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the nature of this decion-making, as i far as i can tell, is that Ten absorbs all the white noise, makes decisions based on that absorption, guides the artists, and then posts pics.

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This is SPOT ON! This is exactly how it works. And when you say "noise," boy do you mean it! There are a lot of opinions out there, and I happily put myself in the position to vet all of them and make an informed decision.

Take any one of those polls from this week, and see if you can count the different ways that someone wants to go. That's normal and expected. I don't always go the way that the majority does, but I usually do. And it's normal that everyone agrees with me, even if I don't state my opionion first. That means I'm REALLY going the right way.

Sometimes someone points out an option that I hadn't thought of. Like the idea of having ALL DENOMINATIONS, but also having some blanks of one of them. This was an excellent idea, and will likely be what I do. SO I think these polls and discussions are very healthy for the process, and are what will make this set (like my last one), great by collaboration.

Please be patient, we want it done right. I don't want a half-baked design going into production, and every time I see a ceratin chip I cringe, thinking I could have waited three more days to have a perfect $25 chip (or whichever).

Ten

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i'm patient. it's easy to be patient when i don't have the money yet, exactly. and this is a grand undertaking, so i know it takes time. but this forum has been jacked up with all these threads.

mostly venting. i appreciate what you do, and look forward to seeing the pics.

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i'm patient. it's easy to be patient when i don't have the money yet, exactly. and this is a grand undertaking, so i know it takes time. but this forum has been jacked up with all these threads.

mostly venting. i appreciate what you do, and look forward to seeing the pics.

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If one was clever enough, one could actually find pictures of my current favorite mockups of ALL the chips. If one was clever.

That'll keep a lot of people busy...

Ten

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If one was clever enough, one could actually find pictures of my current favorite mockups of ALL the chips. If one was clever.

That'll keep a lot of people busy...

Ten

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You mean like this
http://lightningsolutions.net/images.../big/black.jpg

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Do I win a free chip?

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o golly. i see...thanks lumpy

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red is my favorite. what happened to the pyramids?

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Once again, the word "stoked" seems to be inexplicably worming its way back into my working vocabulary.

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If those are Ten's favorites they do look fantastic. The whole set looks great. They work very well together.

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All round inlays though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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All round inlays though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] i guess we had to get real about our options.

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I already knew Lumpy had it figured out.

Everyone, look if you want, but dont post. I'm taking them down as soon as I have time...

Ten

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All round inlays though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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That's true. I was concentrating on the inlay image and didn't notice. I really, really ,really hope inlay shapes are possible.

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I already knew Lumpy had it figured out.

Everyone, look if you want, but dont post. I'm taking them down as soon as I have time...

Ten

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Sorry. I can never resist a challenge. I'll remove it if you want.

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[img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [censored] BS! i missed the pic! DAMMIT !!! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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You...patient? Maybe I haven't read all your "patient" posts yet. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

BTW, I don't think anyone's post count has accelerated more than yours with respect to this chip set. You gotta beware of carpal tunnel at worst or at least fatigue if you keep up your current post rate. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I hear ya on the cash. I have the money but explaining to my wife why $1,000+ for paulson chips is a good investment is falling on somewhat deaf ears. I guess she recognizes the difference between a good investment and a fun/whimsical investment. Especially since 90% of my poker time is online.

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You've got to have something to shuffle while you play right?

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I just made it...VERY sexy Ten! Trust a fellow Texan to come up with an amazing design and idea.. I can hardly wait.

Mars

PS. I found six....are there more than that??

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You...patient? Maybe I haven't read all your "patient" posts yet. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

BTW, I don't think anyone's post count has accelerated more than yours with respect to this chip set. You gotta beware of carpal tunnel at worst or at least fatigue if you keep up your current post rate. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]


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[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] I s'pose that's true.

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PS. I found six....are there more than that??

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7, you missed one.

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orange, white, green, red, purple, black and blue

Black is awesome, but your right about the others needing more work.

Do I get to be called clever now?

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grabed the purple one.... I'm really liking this idea...

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I think they look good; however, I would have preferred only 3 edge marks instead of 4. The edge marks are too busy and are so dominate that they make the inlay graphics seem like a secondary feature instead of the primary one.

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I still don't care much for the new Paulson colors, but DAMN Ten, your inlays make em look sooooo good.

Is that a somewhat accurate representation of the rumored 'new' mold that Paulson is going to be using on their home chips?

-Zak

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I still don't care much for the new Paulson colors, but DAMN Ten, your inlays make em look sooooo good.

Is that a somewhat accurate representation of the rumored 'new' mold that Paulson is going to be using on their home chips?

-Zak

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Only as I "expect" and as the artist showed me (without my asking). We officially know nothing. Just going off instincts.

Ten

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I still don't care much for the new Paulson colors, but DAMN Ten, your inlays make em look sooooo good.

Is that a somewhat accurate representation of the rumored 'new' mold that Paulson is going to be using on their home chips?

-Zak

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Only as I "expect" and as the artist showed me (without my asking). We officially know nothing. Just going off instincts.

Ten

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Wow. "The Artist" sent a rendering this morning. I asked him to take the background from behind the pyramids. He was reading the forums and decided to show me how the chips would look IF Paulson puts concentric cirlces on them.

EVERYONE cross your fingers that they do, because these would look incredilbe!

Ten



http://lightningsolutions.net/images/chips/big/red.jpg

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are you saying you don't like the background? i think it's really nice.

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It's amazing what a difference that simple circle makes. That $5 chip is much more of an improvement on the original than I would have imagined.

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are you saying you don't like the background? i think it's really nice.

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No, I liked it too. But it wasn't fitting well with the other chips. I felt that they all needed to eithe r HAVE a background, or none at all.

Ten

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I love the blue sphinx with the background. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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you know, from that illicit preview i got yesterday, i thought the background of the $5 was great. i agree that it was weird that the others didn't have it though.

that's too bad that it didn't work out with the others. the pryamid $5 is pretty sweet. when do we anticipate that the new mold will be available to see? not until they arrive in april?

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This looks awsome so far. I know it is just a early mock up.

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I think I like the backgrounds also. It might look good to have backgrounds on all the chips that match the color of the chip (red background on red chip, green background on green, etc). You could have a beige background on the white chip and grey or orange or light blue background on the black chip. Or, maybe you could match the background to the edge spots in all the chips. The reason I like the background on your blue chip so much is that it matches the chip. It *might* look even better if the background is a gradient of the chip color and the edge spots (like the blue is - blue to light blue). The shade of the backgrounds would have to be chosen carefully so that it doesn't dominate the chip, but the backgrounds look good IMO.

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I think I like the backgrounds also. It might look good to have backgrounds on all the chips that match the color of the chip (red background on red chip, green background on green, etc). You could have a beige background on the white chip and grey or orange or light blue background on the black chip. Or, maybe you could match the background to the edge spots in all the chips. The reason I like the background on your blue chip so much is that it matches the chip. It *might* look even better if the background is a gradient of the chip color and the edge spots (like the blue is - blue to light blue). The shade of the backgrounds would have to be chosen carefully so that it doesn't dominate the chip, but the backgrounds look good IMO.

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We did this on many different designs, and yes, it DID look good. For a few different reasons, I've decided against it.

1. Cohesion: If we cant have it all the images, then none is better. The theme rules.
2. Future color changes: What if Paulson decided to use a different shade of clay later? The gradient no longer matches.
3. Classic look: The fancier we get, the less these are a "classic" design. One simple image per chip is as far as I think I should go.

Those are the three that come to mind. Plus, I think it'll just look a bit better without the background "blob's as I call them. Icon-on-white looks classy to me.

Ten

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wow the circles on that mock-up look amazing. i really hope they are moving in that direction (paulson that is)

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NIX THE MOLD CHANGE.

I confirmed with Trademark that they are keeping the SAME mold, but allowing the Grand inlay now, to fill the whole flat area.... (EVEN BETTER!)

Now we can really push for inlay shapes!

Ten

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<powers>
Yeah baby, YEAH!
I know how you like it baby! You like it GRAND and SHAPED!
YEAH!
</powers>

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stoked.

That's all, just:

stoked.

(Actually, I prefer the standard inlays with a reasonable mold, but if the grand inlay allows different inlay shapes, I'm all for it. And, I'm enough of a Paulson sycophant that I'll buy 'em however they come.)

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1. Cohesion: If we cant have it all the images, then none is better. The theme rules.
2. Future color changes: What if Paulson decided to use a different shade of clay later? The gradient no longer matches.
3. Classic look: The fancier we get, the less these are a "classic" design. One simple image per chip is as far as I think I should go.

Those are the three that come to mind. Plus, I think it'll just look a bit better without the background "blob's as I call them. Icon-on-white looks classy to me.

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1. Why couldn't they put backgrounds on all the images? I'm no graphics designer, but it seems like it shouldn't be that difficult.

2. Maybe I'm misunderstanding this point, but as long as the backgrounds match OUR chips, in my mind it doesn't matter what future colors they might choose. If future chips are different I probably wouldn't mix them with the Pharaoh's Club set anyway.

3. Agree. (but backgrounds are still better [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) Your blue chip is so gosh darn pretty with the background, it's like the perfect chip. And the background is so unique. I guess the "classic" look to me isn't as important as having the best looking chip possible, and IMO the background doesn't make it "unclassic" (is that a word??).

Anyway, you da boss, no biggie to me. I like the chips both ways, but if we go without background, I'll always have fond memories of the blue chip with sphinx and blue background ::sigh::. Maybe I can buy a 64 pack of Crayolas and color in the backgrounds, think that'll work?

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I confirmed with Trademark that they are keeping the SAME mold, but allowing the Grand inlay now, to fill the whole flat area.... (EVEN BETTER!)

Now we can really push for inlay shapes!

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That is really cool, I much prefer Grand inlay over the small inlay. And I really, really, really prefer inlay shapes over round. Crossing my fingers...

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Wow, these are looking great, although I didn't get the full preview like the others did. nuts.

Anyway, I prefer the background on the image as well, but I haven't seen how they look on the rest. Just liked the sky background on the pyramids.