girls hate dating online players...
 

i'm dating a girl that doesnt approve of my playing. she thinks its gambling which is negative. at best she thinks its an unhealthy hobby and i should be spending some or all this time with her.

any thoughts on how to get out of this jam and still get laid? i'm looking to keep playing the same amount (~25 yrs/week) but not lose the good parts of dating. this isnt the first time a girl has been anti-online poker.

any thoughts?

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Dump her and use your winnings to finance some hookers

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~25 yrs/week

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I'll have to agree with your girlfriend... that does sound a bit extreme...

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i'm dating a girl that doesnt approve of my playing. she thinks its gambling which is negative. at best she thinks its an unhealthy hobby and i should be spending some or all this time with her.

any thoughts on how to get out of this jam and still get laid? i'm looking to keep playing the same amount (~25 yrs/week) but not lose the good parts of dating. this isnt the first time a girl has been anti-online poker.

any thoughts?

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Just don't tell her that you're still playing. If you can't spend time with her, make up some excuse other than "I'd rather play online poker". Honesty is not your friend in these circumstances. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Use your money to buy her a boob job. But pay off the doc to only do the left one. When she wakes up, tell her if she goes a year without opening her fat trap, you'll get her the right one.

-Durka

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Do what I did, explain, cajole, argue, debate, disscuss etc.

Then when you get truly frustrated take 2 weeks away from the game, teach her to play, get her hooked, then open up an online account for her, then let life continue as it should. Offcourse mine still yells at me, threatens to leave and finds fault -- but not with my playing poker online!

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i'm dating a girl that doesnt approve of my playing. she thinks its gambling which is negative. at best she thinks its an unhealthy hobby and i should be spending some or all this time with her.

any thoughts on how to get out of this jam and still get laid? i'm looking to keep playing the same amount (~25 yrs/week) but not lose the good parts of dating. this isnt the first time a girl has been anti-online poker.

any thoughts?

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Easy. Find a girl who doesn't mind. This isn't the only one who lt you bend her over, okay? There are plenty of others out there.

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Dump her and use your winnings to finance some hookers

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Hookers are -EV.

Barron Vangor Toth
www.BarronVangorToth.com

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if you give into her, she'll eventually chip away at you until your under her complete control. you gotta be a man!

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tell her that anything you buy her (and DO buy her nice stuff) is from poker.. and that if she wants you to stop - fine, but then she should not expect the restaurants, shopping, movies, gifts, etc b/c you will not be able to afford it

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tell her that anything you buy her (and DO buy her nice stuff) is from poker.. and that if she wants you to stop - fine, but then she should not expect the restaurants, shopping, movies, gifts, etc b/c you will not be able to afford it

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Bahahah
Nice one.

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tell her that anything you buy her (and DO buy her nice stuff) is from poker.. and that if she wants you to stop - fine, but then she should not expect the restaurants, shopping, movies, gifts, etc b/c you will not be able to afford it

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That is more -EV than hookers.

As for the post, just quit playin online poker, more money for me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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i'm dating a girl that doesnt approve of my playing. she thinks its gambling which is negative. at best she thinks its an unhealthy hobby and i should be spending some or all this time with her.

any thoughts on how to get out of this jam and still get laid? i'm looking to keep playing the same amount (~25 yrs/week) but not lose the good parts of dating. this isnt the first time a girl has been anti-online poker.

any thoughts?

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If you can't convince her that it's not a negative and she doesn't understand what it means to you, drop her. She'll only harp on you about it forever, and she'll feel it gives her the authority to criticize you in many other aspects of your life. There are girls out there not like this; find one.

Also, it's good to be open about your poker playing up front.

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A) Find a girl who approves, or who appreciates that you want to do something she doesn't nessecarily approve of, occasionally.

B) Continue having the name and avatar of one of the greatest football players ever [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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i'm dating a girl that doesnt approve of my playing. she thinks its gambling which is negative. at best she thinks its an unhealthy hobby and i should be spending some or all this time with her.

any thoughts on how to get out of this jam and still get laid? i'm looking to keep playing the same amount (~25 yrs/week) but not lose the good parts of dating. this isnt the first time a girl has been anti-online poker.

any thoughts?

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Easy. Find a girl who doesn't mind. This isn't the only one who lt you bend her over, okay? There are plenty of others out there.

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Bingo

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This is very important. The way you handle is will directly affect your happiness and income in the near and distant future, so don't f&!@ it up. Tell her and reinforce to her that poker is and will be a part of your life and that she better get used to it. If she still doesn't like it, the relationship will blow up, but thats OK -- better than the alternative. I had a blow up with my wife about 6 months ago and basically told her the same thing -- it made all the difference in the world to be direct, honest, forthright and firm -- key "firm". If you're wishy-washy at all about it (like, because you fear losing her), you are destined to be constantly fighting this battle and dare I say generally miserable.

PS. Please follow up and let us know exactly what you say the next time you address it and what her reaction was.

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1BB on a $10/$20 table = rental girlfriend in Bangkok for 24 hurs

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If she doesn't support you in your favorite hobby, she's probably not right for you.

Maybe try asking her what hobby she would approve of. If she can come up with an answer, promptly point out that the other hobby costs lots of money whereas poker pays the bills(assuming you're a winning player).

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If you can't convince her that it's not a negative and she doesn't understand what it means to you, drop her. She'll only harp on you about it forever, and she'll feel it gives her the authority to criticize you in many other aspects of your life. There are girls out there not like this; find one.

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Agreed. Be a man and tell her "this is important to me." Tell her why. Women respect a man who is willing to put his foot down and (calmly) tell them that something is important.

If you do the above and she isn't willing to listen, then perhaps she isn't right for you.

Oh, and while I woulden't recommend the half-boob-job, that was a hilarious idea. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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My wife is not a big fan of the online poker and it is/was a source of tension, enough that I needed a plan to deal with it.

First, are there things she likes to do that you don't? For us, it's my wife's love of reality TV. I can't stand it, she'll watch it until her eyeballs fall out. So, we set aside time that she watches her crap and I play online poker.

Second, are you a winning player? If so, share the loot. It seems silly, but she will be far less likely to think you are frittering away your time if she's getting fancy dinners and jewelry out of the deal. You're not bribing her exactly, you're proving your activity's worth and sharing it with her. I've also given a good portion of my winnings to my grandmother-in-law, which goes over great. If you're not a winning player and you play that much, stop playing, you're wasting your time.

Finally, realize that compromise is the essence of any relationship.

Maybe this response was too serious, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has had to address this.

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Jewelry and expensive dinners should be bought for women because you love them/care about them, not used as bribes to keep them off your back or to get some action.

I see your argument Los, but we're talking about problems with a girlfriend, not a wife. You shoulden't have to make major compromises for a girlfriend that you (likely) don't live with.

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Just don't tell her that you're still playing. If you can't spend time with her, make up some excuse other than "I'd rather play online poker". Honesty is not your friend in these circumstances. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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These were my thoughts. And besides, the way dating generally works, you won't be seeing her in the next couple of months anyway. I have a steady relationship currently and haven't dated around in awhile, but I remember constantly lying to girls about minor details (as I saw them). "Oh yeah, you're the only girl I'm seeing."

It sounds like she could possibly be a ball breaker. She'll either not like you because of poker gambling (or some other lame reason) or you'll get tired of her yourself. Just make sure to have fun, get out, keep your options open, and don't forget to hedge your bets...you might eventually win a jackpot and meet someone cool as opposed to just a lay. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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It sounds like it is time to decide whether you want to play poker (and be a man) or bend over and do what she wants. As long as you are a winning player, she is crazy to have a problem with it.

Where else is she going to find a guy that sets his own hours 100% of the time, can fly to any casino in the world and write part of the expenses off on his taxes, and has mad cash in his pocket?

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Be prepared to show
1. That you are a winning player.
AND
2. That you are winning enough to make it worth your time. And more importantly, you are winning enough to prefer the money you expect to make then a couple extra hours with your chick.

Hopefully you have some stats on how you've done.
bankroll
Winrate / 100
hands / hr
etc etc.

Once you can show these 2 things you should be able to point out some hobby / worthless activity she does and say "how come you can watch Gillmore Girls and the OC and I shouldn't play poker?"

Also think about this.

Lets say you are a winning 1/2 player,
You must decide to spend the evening with your girlfriend or play 1/2. If you pick poker over your girlfriend you have a serious problem. You either have a severe gambling addiction or your girlfriend (and sex with her) is so terrible that you'd rather have 16 dollars.

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Hopefully you have some stats on how you've done.
bankroll
Winrate / 100
hands / hr
etc etc.

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You're kidding, right? If she doesn't understand "honey, I enjoy playing poker and I make money" you really think she is going to understand a 1.8BB/hour winrate * 5 tables at a time?

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If you pick poker over your girlfriend you have a serious problem.

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Meh, I do this all the time. The key is girlfriend after poker. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Be a man and tell her "this is important to me." Tell her why. Women respect a man who is willing to put his foot down and (calmly) tell them that something is important.

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This is exactly right. If she doesn't give in, there's two possible explanations:

1. She's way too uptight to make a good girlfriend.
2. You screwed up the relationship already by being too much of a pushover at the outset. Next time allow the girl to chase you a bit.

ZZZ

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I can't believe that you would ask a bunch of guys who spend 25-50 hours a week watching blips on a computer screen for advise about girls. What may be worse is taking advise when you have no idea of the background of the giver. There is a lot of bluster and ego in the responces but I'd bet a lot of the posters would fold like a cheap camera.

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hilarious. thanks for the posts. more background:

i've told her from day 1 that i play alot. i'm winning but still amassing a bankroll (playing seriously only about 2 months) so dont pull out much (as opposed to when i'm with her). i mostly 3-table NLHE .10/.25 and $10SNGs so the money is blah at the moment ($7/hr) and the vast majority is plowedback into BR.

the key is that i really dont care what she wants. as has been noted by posters, she's clearly not a future wife prospect and probably not a future GF prospect. the issue is that this has been a common reaction from girls. particularly since the weekends are the juciest games.

also, she has a history of 3somes and i want her around long enough to feel comfortable with me. not quite sure how to judge that against poker $s, but its way +EV.

i do know that dating is a form of competition similar to poker (pun intended). strategy and tactics can be planned and executed and guile is at a premium.

how do i keep her (and others) around while still getting in the requiste poker hrs? i work about 3-4 hours a day (nonpoker). is it possible that eurosites have the weak after work crowd playing during the US daytime? or are they playing stars and party during our days? a quick look at the tables most days seems to show much more tightness at the tables.

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i'm dating a girl that doesnt approve of my playing. she thinks its gambling which is negative. at best she thinks its an unhealthy hobby and i should be spending some or all this time with her.

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It's a skill game, Jo.

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also, she has a history of 3somes

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Waaay more EV than .10/25 NLHE.

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If you want to hang with her you have to give her some weekend time. Its as simple as that. There simply isn't anyway to finess--oh weekends are the juiciest time and I have to play then. If you can't figure a way to give her at least one undivided night a weekend then you're simply not gonna get to that threesome stage.

Choices choices.

One of the tradeoff's I made for playing a lot of poker was that I gave my fiance Friday night and all day Saturday. I miss out on the juiciest times perhaps, but the games are beatable pretty much all the time...and it let me put in some hours.

--Zetack

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I presented my poker playing to my wife in exactly that way. "What other hobby not only pays for itself but actually makes money?" She's now fully supportive however she usually goes shopping or to the salon when I play which tends to throw a wrench in my +EV at times. Working on that one...Sklansky, little help?

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also, she has a history of 3somes and i want her around long enough to feel comfortable with me. not quite sure how to judge that against poker $s, but its way +EV.

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Just be sure that the two of you have the same mix of genders in mind for this threesome. (I hate it when that happens...)

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If you want to hang with her you have to give her some weekend time. Its as simple as that. There simply isn't anyway to finess--oh weekends are the juiciest time and I have to play then. If you can't figure a way to give her at least one undivided night a weekend then you're simply not gonna get to that threesome stage.

Choices choices.

One of the tradeoff's I made for playing a lot of poker was that I gave my fiance Friday night and all day Saturday. I miss out on the juiciest times perhaps, but the games are beatable pretty much all the time...and it let me put in some hours.

--Zetack

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agreed. ive been giving her 1 weeknight and 1 weekend nite. plus phone time (which i despise).

bad situation this week: she lives an hr away (which is perfect) but her EX has her daugther this week so she wanted more time than normal (led to the post). i made the mistake of telling her "i can only do 2 nights str8". dont do this. i should have waited til the turn to raise. revealed my hand WAY to early. i got reraised BIG.

now i feel like i'm holding onto a bucking bronco, praying for the 8 second horn. i may have to up the 3some timetable now, but i am a gambler so its time to gamboooool.

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I agree, honesty is not a good trait for a poker player. Play in the "closet". I am not saying there is anything wrong with playing +ev poker. There is nothing wrong with being gay, then why do you think they stay in the closet?

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she has a history of 3somes

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You don't need our help.

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any thoughts on how to get out of this jam and still get laid?

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I like your attitude. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Spend some of your poker winnings on her. That should clear it up.

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also, she has a history of 3somes

Uh. You didn't mention you were drawing to a flush.

Try this. Tell her you made a big score, and ask her if she wants to go clothes shopping. Then take her to someplace like Babe's. They have some really slutty... I mean provocative... styles there.

It'll be fun. And with any luck she'll be really turned on when you're done.

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tell her that anything you buy her (and DO buy her nice stuff) is from poker.. and that if she wants you to stop - fine, but then she should not expect the restaurants, shopping, movies, gifts, etc b/c you will not be able to afford it

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That is more -EV than hookers.


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how?

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You play poker for peanuts as a hobby and you're so addicted after playing 2 months that there just isn't time for the new girlfriend. Looks like you have a problem and your values are getting very fked up. Women come always before any hobby.