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warewulf 03-01-2005 04:05 PM

NEVER use USPS
 
So I emailed back and forth with a guy on Ebay and close a deal for 75 $5, 5 $25 American Cruise chips. ($5 shown below) to go with my other 35 $25 chips.

http://img213.exs.cx/img213/1710/56ab.jpg

A week goes by and I haven't received the chips. I email the guy and he sends me the USPS tracking number. I track them and they were delivered to my work over a week ago. Since USPS doesn't require a signature on 2nd Day Priority mail, looks like they were stolen. Since USPS only guarantees that it will be delivered, I have no recourse. I contacted the seller -- he doesn't have any more he will sell me. Looks like he just wants to take his chances on Ebay. I have more chips on the way (different seller and chips), and the sender wanted to send USPS and said she would get insurance. This is also no good because if it gets stolen after delivery to my business, I'd be screwed again.

moral: If you're shipping ANYTHING even slightly important, demand UPS or Fed Ex.

If anyone hears of anyone selling these (75 $5, 5 $25), please let me know!

It just makes me sick!

Slow Play Ray 03-01-2005 04:11 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
You can request signature confirmation with USPS.

smoore 03-01-2005 04:15 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
call the cops, dude... mail theft is a felony. stick the bastards.

edit: oh yeah... wanna buy 25 $5 and 5 $25 chips likeyou show in that picture? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] (just kidding)

obeythekitten 03-01-2005 04:19 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
how is it USPS's fault that you didnt require a signature confirmation and they got stolen?

you were cheap and got burned...and if you didnt insure them, well then youre just being stupid....i really do home you get your money back.

Lottery Larry 03-01-2005 04:23 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
How does your company not know it got a package? I guess they don't keep records? (of course, why would they?)

Next time, have them sent to your house instead. And ask for delivery signoff

toots 03-01-2005 04:48 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
I've generally had better luck with USPS than UPS, but a year ago, I bought a bunch of PaulSons off eBay. The guy priority mailed me a box of chips in a priority mail envelope. The envelope ripped, the contents fell out, and I got a ripped empty envelope with a note from the post office attached saying "Dude. This envelope is empty."

I filed the lost mail report with them. It's been a year. I'm not expecting anything.

Cassius 03-01-2005 05:07 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
I'm generally a big fan of the postal service, esp for close shipping. Then I go UPS. I hate FedEx, they've lost, screwed-up, and have otherwise been late with pretty much half of the packages I've both sent and received.

I think in this case you should be more concerned with which co-worker has some new chips =)

And like the other posts say, you can have them ask for a signature, its like an extra buck or something.

warewulf 03-01-2005 05:57 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
I'll have to specify that a signature MUST be required which is what I did with some other chips that are on their way. I did not discuss the shipping method with the seller, wont make that mistake again.

I have had other things disappear with USPS, doesn't seem as reliable as UPS. I have also had things arrive from USPS opened and/or damaged. Trying to get anything done about it is always like pulling teeth. I especially like the tracking with UPS, always tells you where it is and what day delivery is scheduled.

Godfather80 03-01-2005 08:29 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
I will agree USPS has lost me two items on two separate occasions. They'll happily quote you that their job is only to deliver packages, not to make sure you get them. Most of the time they like to leave packages outside my apartment stoop rather than to take the 3 seconds required to open the door and slide the package into the hall.

SugarV 03-02-2005 01:49 AM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
I agree that it's not the USPS's fault that you had stuff shippped to your business. That's what your home is for. Even if you have a PO box...it's the Post Office, they will hold if for you.

I have shipped items *internationally* (all over, even to Asia) for thousands and thousands of dollars using the USPS and never had a problem. Insure it, track it, and get a signature.

sv

dakine 03-02-2005 03:07 AM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
Quote: have had other things disappear with USPS, doesn't seem as reliable as UPS. I have also had things arrive from USPS opened and/or damaged. Trying to get anything done about it is always like pulling teeth. I especially like the tracking with UPS, always tells you where it is and what day delivery is scheduled. End of Quote.

Your post office or company sucks. With UPS if no one is at your house they will leave it with your neighbor especially if the package is not insured. If you have a rotton neighbor that you dont get along with they can keep the package. It happened to one of my neighbors a couple of years ago. Dang if you do and Dang if you dont. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

warewulf 03-02-2005 07:53 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
[ QUOTE ]
I agree that it's not the USPS's fault that you had stuff shippped to your business. That's what your home is for. Even if you have a PO box...it's the Post Office, they will hold if for you.

I have shipped items *internationally* (all over, even to Asia) for thousands and thousands of dollars using the USPS and never had a problem. Insure it, track it, and get a signature.

sv

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I can't have stuff sent home, never anyone there to sign for it. If they keep it at the post office, it closes before I get home from work.

I just need to make sure a signature is required. Plus the fact that USPS is backed by the federal gov, is a disadvantage -- protects them more than us.

Plus, USPS employees carry firearms... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

pokerswami 03-04-2005 04:37 AM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
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With UPS if no one is at your house they will leave it with your neighbor especially if the package is not insured.

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In my nice, quite, suburban neighborhood, UPS drops the package on the front porch, doesn't even ring the door bell, and runs -not walks, runs- back to the truck to hurry to the next stop. If I'm not home plus hear the truck, I won't know a pkg. has been left as I don't normally even go to my front porch on a weekly basis. I use a side door to enter and exit and to walk to the street to get newspapers and mail.

warewulf 03-04-2005 01:42 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
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With UPS if no one is at your house they will leave it with your neighbor especially if the package is not insured.

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In my nice, quite, suburban neighborhood, UPS drops the package on the front porch, doesn't even ring the door bell, and runs -not walks, runs- back to the truck to hurry to the next stop. If I'm not home plus hear the truck, I won't know a pkg. has been left as I don't normally even go to my front porch on a weekly basis. I use a side door to enter and exit and to walk to the street to get newspapers and mail.

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Doesn't someone have to sign for it?

pokerswami 03-04-2005 07:33 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
[ QUOTE ]
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In my nice, quite, suburban neighborhood, UPS drops the package on the front porch, doesn't even ring the door bell, and runs -not walks, runs- back to the truck to hurry to the next stop. If I'm not home plus hear the truck, I won't know a pkg. has been left as I don't normally even go to my front porch on a weekly basis. I use a side door to enter and exit and to walk to the street to get newspapers and mail.

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Doesn't someone have to sign for it?

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No.

Some time ago UPS dropped the signature requirement for residential deliveries. They made it an option on the part of the shipper. Then, I'm pretty sure they discontinued signatures for residential deliveries altogether. I'm not sure of the current status, but you could check their website and/or e-mail them. Fed-ex still gets signatures as far as I know.

If I was ordering a valuable shipment of anything I would check it out first. Even if you insure something and are actually able to eventually collect on the insurance, you still might to repeat a several week wait for custom production of your order. For something valuable, I would be willing to pay a little more to mandate a signature, along with the insurance.

paulsonchips 03-05-2005 07:15 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
Ive always loved USPS. With smaller packages, they often ship quicker, cheaper, and best of ALL thier damage control is great.

The downside is they have the worst tracking system ever.

fluxrad 03-05-2005 07:44 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
I have four words for you: Union And Government Employees.

My GF used to work for UPS and RPS - you should hear the stories she'd tell me...

your chips are probably now the property of a guy with a moustache and grey pants.

tubalkain 03-05-2005 08:24 PM

Re: NEVER use USPS
 
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I agree that it's not the USPS's fault that you had stuff shippped to your business. That's what your home is for. Even if you have a PO box...it's the Post Office, they will hold if for you.

I have shipped items *internationally* (all over, even to Asia) for thousands and thousands of dollars using the USPS and never had a problem. Insure it, track it, and get a signature.

sv

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I can't have stuff sent home, never anyone there to sign for it. If they keep it at the post office, it closes before I get home from work.

I just need to make sure a signature is required. Plus the fact that USPS is backed by the federal gov, is a disadvantage -- protects them more than us.

Plus, USPS employees carry firearms... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Get a post office box. Post offices are open Saturday mornings... certainly you can go and pick up your chips and [censored] then?


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