Design review for the Pharaoh\'s Club Paulson chips
 

I think a lot of people are as excited as I am about the new Paulson chip, but also very disappointed with our two dismal choices of inlay. You can pick the old James Bond design, but the inlay was too small for the allotted area, making it look odd. Or the other choice, a stock inlay design from trademark which is also a bit boring (to me), and which is also purported to be too small.

I decided that there is no reason why we can't organize another group buy for custom chips. I am determined to make this happen, and will not relent until the goal is met. There is no distributor lined up, there is no order started, and there are no prices yet. All of this will come once I see that there's enough support to order 100,000 chips. Yes, you read that right, 100,000 chip order. I will promise everyone two things:

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1. Everyone involved at the beginning will get a great price on the new Paulson chips.
2. The chip designs will be stunning and you will be proud of this unique chip set.
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This thread is not meant for organizing the order process. I know the discussion lead that way, but the first step is getting a design direction to follow. The chips you see here are the first step on choosing a theme. As you can see, I chose two "traditional" designs, as reflected in the polls here and on TexasHoldem-Poker.com. The other is more "fancy" as you can see.

These mockups are by no means finished. I "held back" my usual design direction purposely. I gave only a few visual cues and indicators for the graphic artists. I wanted new perspectives. I didn't want them to look like my other Egyptian set. Once I have decided on the direction to go, I will work with that artist to tweak the design and to continue the entire set. Knowing my knit-picking, he will be happy when the process is over. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

There will be 7 chips. 25¢ through $1000. Standard colors, unless I can get Trademark to let me change a couple of them. Each chip will have a different inlay shape , all of which I have determined already.

So please, let me know what you think!

OPTION #1
http://thecagles.com/pix/pharaoh_1.jpg

OPTION #2
http://thecagles.com/pix/pharaoh_2.jpg

OPTION #3
http://thecagles.com/pix/pharaoh_3.jpg

I'd like to get a lot of votes on this design, including the opinions of people that don't frequent this forum. Please feel free to ask friends, family, or anyone else to take part in the poll. If you frequent other forums, ask your friends to come vote. I'd like to hear from more than just my "chip snob" friends here. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Feel free to hot-link my images from thecagles.com to show people what we are proposing.

[thanks to MSPatton at http://holdempokerchips.com for the Paulson scan]

Ten

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Despite the poll results favoring the traditional inlay, the mold on this chip is more suited to the grand inlay. Would the poll numbers have leaned the same way if the chip and mold choice had been known?
That said, choice No.2 is rather fetching.
I much prefer an old-school Paulson (I play with a set of Discovery Cruise chips), but I would like to see this mold mocked-up with a grand or giant inlay.

You know, that design No.2 IS rather fetching...

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Ten,

Go man go!
I am blown away by your enthusiam dude.
I only wish I had the cash to jump on the band wagon.
Sitting as a voyeur on the side lines will have to do.

cheers,
the Real Macoy

ps. how many chips can one guy possibly need....or more likely is your wife going to let you buy more chips?

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Ten,

Im down for atleast 1,000 chips most likely. But would like to express some thoughts. Please try to take up as much of the inlay is possible, grand inlay would be awesome, but I know that probably wont happen. If possible keep the white and yellow chips at the top and bottom of the denomination ladder, as these 2 colors really start to look dingy after being shuffled with the darker colors even after a short period of time.
With that said, I have no doubt you will create an awesome looking set.

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I vote for old school, simple classic, so #2 seems to be headed in the right direction for my tastes. #3 is too complicated (for my money, a design like that would look better on a chipco). #1 just didn't seem to do much for me.

Keep up the good work!

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By the time this gets off the ground I should be ready to commit to 1000-2000 chips. I was interested in the Egyptian ChipCo's but I decided I wanted to go with clay when i get a big, expensive set. I'm sure the design work will be of the same high quality, and I am definitely in for this.

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Nice work I voted for #2. I would also be in for around 1000.

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#3 is just out. it's more the modern style, which i believe has already been done in the egyptian theme.

#2 pwns #1 on style. let me count the ways:
-the font is better
-in #1 the arched text doesn't work with the octogon inlay
-the watermark is sweet
-rounded edges on the inlay
-i dig the cartoony feel of the pyramids.

btw, i know this isn't the point of the thread, but if you're keeping rough track of things, i'm going to aim for 1000 of these. i doubt 100,000 is going to be a problem.

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Number two does it for me, as well.

1. I like the traditional style
2. I like the font (reminds me of vintage Vegas)
3. I like the rounded edges of the hexagon
4. I like the colors of the inlay...simple.

However,

1. I would get rid of the eagle behind the denom. (I'm sure many of you will like that. In my opinion, with an traditional design, the denom should be "stand alone")

2. With a small order (compared to casinos, I'm speaking) such as this...too bad we wouldn't be able to customize the back of them with a different design. Have the $.25 chips say "serf" on the back, then move on up the chain of command to the Pharaoh on the $1000 (or higher). It would be an entertaining, but very expensive idea. If they do give you the option of different art on each side...it might be something to keep in the back of you mind.

I'm sure that, with this being the first step, it will take a long time before we see these chips. Probably most of the people who got in on the Chipco's will have a bankroll saved up for another set.

I'm in.

sv

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Wow. #2 really stands head and shoulders above the others.

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I just don't like the use of the words "Club" or "Casino."

Don't know why, but it just seems trite.

Otherwise, I could see spending a grand on these...

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Q:

I don't know the terms on these MBT Paul-Son special orders, but are we talking about the same inlay for all denominations (excepting the denomination amount), or will there be different designs for each denomination?

Not that it'd change my order, but I'm just curious.

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I don't know the terms on these MBT Paul-Son special orders, but are we talking about the same inlay for all denominations (excepting the denomination amount), or will there be different designs for each denomination?

Not that it'd change my order, but I'm just curious.

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There will be 7 chips. 25¢ through $1000. Standard colors, unless I can get Trademark to let me change a couple of them. Each chip will have a different inlay shape , all of which I have determined already.

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He meant the inlay design, not the shape. I think it is a safe assumption they will all be the same aside from the denominations. Maybe a variety in background color though?

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He meant the inlay design, not the shape. I think it is a safe assumption they will all be the same aside from the denominations. Maybe a variety in background color though?

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There will be a different inlay design AND inlay shape for each chip. At the very least, a different graphic and denom amount.

Ten

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Thank you, ten, for the clarification.

To answer Jojo, yes, my reading comprehension was indeed defective. I guess my eyes were just glazed over by the thought of new Paul-sons.

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Somehow, I got this mental picture of TenPercenter taking delivery of 1,000 boxes of chips, dumping them in a wading pool, and wallowing around in them for a while before shipping out the individual orders.

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Somehow, I got this mental picture of TenPercenter taking delivery of 1,000 boxes of chips, dumping them in a wading pool, and wallowing around in them for a while before shipping out the individual orders.

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My wife said she DELETED those photos before I sent out the last Egyptians!

Dammit. How much do you want for them? [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Ten

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I like #2 a lot, dont care for #1 or #3. Im down for 750-1000 chips.

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There will be a different inlay design AND inlay shape for each chip. At the very least, a different graphic and denom amount.

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Wow, I stand corrected - that's why you should never assume! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Anyway, I gotta say I'm very intrigued by this, can't wait to see how it turns out! I hope you don't make me sorry I did the custom Kings Crowns!

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Damn you 10%... I was just getting over my broken heart as a result of selling my Rounders chips and was finally going to place an order with PC.com. Now I have to wait! Number 2 all the way! I bet you get these done faster than ASM anyway.

Rob

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Have you confirmed that you are capable of getting custom inlay shapes?

If so , why the f did they not use a bigger inlay on the bond chips.

I bet that is why trademarks style is taking so long...I be they heard everyone's reaction and ran back screaming stop the presses hehe.

Oh yeah and my vote is for number 2 for exactly the same reasons as jojo.

A little note. If I were doing it I would think about it this way. You want a common element on every chip. A logo, I know the egytian theme is common, but still, for the chips to really be cohesive I think a common element is key, ie keep the pyramids on every chip with the text as the Casino logo, and change the watermark. or vice versa, but i think the element should be obvious. Simple and obvious. Especially if you are changing inlay shapes on every chip. I would just be careful about the chips looking modge podge with Very differnt graphics and different inlays.
my $.02 may be worth squat, however.

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A little note. If I were doing it I would think about it this way. You want a common element on every chip. A logo, I know the egytian theme is common, but still, for the chips to really be cohesive I think a common element is key, ie keep the pyramids on every chip with the text as the Casino logo, and change the watermark. or vice versa, but i think the element should be obvious.

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I agree 100%. The one thing I don't like about Foxwoods chips is that they are a "hodgepodge" of different designs, and really don't look like a cohesive set at all. I like the idea of only varying the watermark, and maybe the inlay color, from chip to chip. Just my opinion.

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i think we might call that poll response overwhelmingly in favor of #2

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#2 is sweet. I'm in for 1,000 to 1,200. Can't wait to see the other

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Sounds like #2 is the winner so far. What does everyone think about the watermark? Although it's a nice idea, I'm torn -- is it too much detail for such a small area? The rest of the design is so simple, does it end up creating clutter?

I'd be curious to see what #2 looks like w/o the watermark.

Also, I agree with the "common element" / keep it simple theme mentioned above.

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I like the watermark alot - I think it should be the only "item" that changes from chip to chip. For example - have the .25 chip have the Ankh as a watermark, have the $1 have a different symbol\image. Maybe even have them use the same symbols used on the chipcos, but in a much more subtle way (the watermark). Any thoughts? Shall I be quite and just get my money ready?

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It was a tough choice between #1 &amp; #2, but #2 had a bit more of a classic look, which is my preference. The other Egyptians have a very modern look and they're on ChipCOs which are a more modern chip, so having a classic look for a classic clay chip seems to make sense.

BTW I didn't think any of the chip makers would let you use the non round shapes for inserts.

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As a aesthetics type thing, I would see what it would look like (on number 2) to ditch the sky over the pyramids, just have a clean line - I think it'll make the chip more centered as it seems to feel a bit top-heavy, if you will. Slick though.

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Just like Uncle Scrouge in Duck Tails (if you didn't watch this cartoon as a kid you are old)

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Will the chips all have the same edge spot colors/pattern as the new Paulson home chips?

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I passed last time on the Chipco set but loved the design. I am a classic clay kind of guy. So I am in on these for a bunch. I voted for #2 along with everyone else. Keep up the good work boys!

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I went with option #2 also. I think the classic look is perfect. I've been lurking here for quite some time, and I'm sorry that I missed out on the previous Egyptian order. I'm interested in 750-1000 depending on the final price. Once again, great work Ten!

Preytar

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10%,

Under the assumption that you will be using the same 7 chip colors - is it possible to vote on changing the .25 chip to blue and the 1.00 to white?

I look forward to following your progress. I should get my samples from Apache this week - I'm sure I will love them - but anticipate getting in on your future order for 1000-3000 chips.

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#2 has a better look than the other two. Like the smooth rounded edges and the watermark.

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I also would like the inlay color to either match up with the edgespots or the chip color, I think that is one of the main problems I have with the bond inlay on the new Paulsons. If you match up the bg color of the inlay and make this set as beuaitful as the chipco set, but of course, simpler, I may have to pick up 500-1500 chips. I am without a doubt in for 500 though, as long as they look good [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Design 2 all the way

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Number 2 looks great!! Since it is way ahead maybe a mock up of all the chips is order. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I would probably be forced into getting at least 500.

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Ten;

Unlike everyone else, I really like #3. It's a little busy, but I like the "iconic" look, rather than the faux-casino look. It seems like I'm in the minority here, but if you rounded the edges on the hexagon and simplified the icon a little it might have got more votes. Another potential advantage to #3 is that it is that it might be compatible with the octagons and plaques of the original Egyptians….

I am very interested and hope this project comes to fruition. I'm in for 1000, or may invest in a much larger quantity (10k?) for re-sale if the price is right and you need to get more orders to make it happen.

-m

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WOW! #2 is absolutely gorgeous. The font is very very sharp, I like the text. That is just a fantastic start to the process. If it turns out this well, I'll be in for 700-1000, depending on pricing.

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I agree with Toots on this! I'd like to see the theme without refrence to a ficticious "club" or casino....

-m