Already read SSH, drop down to WLLH?
 

I am a beginner as some of you know. I read SSH first. Understand some parts and am confused about others. Should I go read a lesser book(by some people's accounts) in WLLH, which as I understand presents a totally different play style, or should I stick to SSH, read it again(which I plan to do regardless somewhere along the line) or go just skip WLLH all together and get another book(any suggestions)?

Re: Already read SSH, drop down to WLLH?
 

Get ITH.

Its a way better book than WLLH for a beginner.

Re: Already read SSH, drop down to WLLH?
 

Yeah, ITH is a solid book. Lots of hand examples and exercises to think about. Also just keep reading the forums (microlimits I assume?). These forums are a gold mine of information. You'll get more out of them than you will out of any book in the long run. Good luck.

Re: Already read SSH, drop down to WLLH?
 

Keep reading SSHE until you 'get' it.

Then read it again.

Re: Already read SSH, drop down to WLLH?
 

Yeah reading these forums is something I will do for as long as I play poker lol.

Well it's settled. I'll read ITH next. Maybe read SSH one more time first to make sure I understand most of the concepts, then move to ITH. Thanks!

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Well it's settled. I'll read ITH next. Maybe read SSH one more time first to make sure I understand most of the concepts, then move to ITH. Thanks

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Then read SSHE again. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Re: Already read SSH, drop down to WLLH?
 

*Nobody* completely understands SSH the first time through. I have read it 12+ times now and I still pick up things with every read...

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*Nobody* completely understands SSH the first time through. I have read it 12+ times now and I still pick up things with every read...

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I've read about 8 times.
Gotta read it again. I'm overplaying overcards again.

Re: Already read SSH, drop down to WLLH?
 

I'm with Angry on this one. Small Stakes is your best "foundation" book. Before you start getting confused with some of the whim strategies contained in other books, get SSHE into your core memory.

Re: Already read SSH, drop down to WLLH?
 

Alright, it looks like I am going against the grain here. I absolutely love WLLH. I think it is the best poker book any beginner could ever read. And it's not just a starter book either. You can consistantly win at any limit following its advice exactly.

When I play, my default play is always the exact advise from WLLH. I only deviate from this play if I have a good reason to do so (read on a player, abnormal table conditions, etc.)

WLLH advice, followed to the letter, will make you a winning player all the way from the micro limits, up to where I am now, $15/30.

WLLH will get you about 80% of the possible profit from the game. SSH, if understood and used properly, will get you that last 20% of possible profit (at the cost of higher variance). To me, the lower variance, safer, eaiser, WLLH advice is best for a beginner.

I've read WLLH at least a half a dozen times, and consistantly have a nice win rate. After reading SSH for the first time, my game took a terrible downswing. I tried to out think every situation, and I basically became a LAG player. I went back and reread SSH, only to find that it is a lot of work to remember it all, only to get that extra 20% of the profit. For now, I'm content with my win rate that comes easily to me from an easy to read and understand book, WLLH.

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I'm with Angry on this one. Small Stakes is your best "foundation" book. Before you start getting confused with some of the whim strategies contained in other books, get SSHE into your core memory.

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There's a reason why SSH is for "advanced" players. Before you can learn or appreciate that book, you have to have a solid foundation before you even open it up. ITH and WLLH are both excellent ways to get that foundation.

But keep SSH around and read it once you don't feel like a beginner anymore....

Re: Already read SSH, drop down to WLLH?
 

AngryCola gives great advice...I'm on my 5th read of SSHE and it's like watching Seinfeld...every episode gets you something new.

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When I play, my default play is always the exact advise from WLLH. I only deviate from this play if I have a good reason to do so (read on a player, abnormal table conditions, etc.)


[/ QUOTE ]Even the starting hands? Because I thought I had read that you use Sklansky and Malmuth starting hands (hence your preflop simulator), but everything post-flop is from WLLH.

Re: Already read SSH, drop down to WLLH?
 

Yeah, you're right. When I refer to WLLH, I'm usually talking about its postflop advice.

I think HPFAP is more comprehensive when it comes to preflop, but WLLH is not too far off. Actually, I like SSH preflop advice (for its simplicity).

Re: Already read SSH, drop down to WLLH?
 

The great advantage of SSH is they give you guidance on starting hands, but they deliberately tell you it's much more important to focus on the postflop concepts. That's where you'll make/save money even if you come in with crap.

Yeah...10th reading...still finding new stuff.