FWIW - Installing Additional Party Skins
 

People had recently begun to complain about the fact they could no longer sign up for multiple party skins. I was inquiring about this in a former post when MicroBob commented that the rumored death of being able to register with multiple skins was premature.

Anyhow, I went ahead and set up an account with Empire after deleting the Party skin - no problems. Here are the steps I took.

1. CONTROL PANEL - Add/Remove Programs : Delete Party Poker

2. MANUALLY DELETED the PartyPoker folder from "Program Files". Seems that Step 1 didn't catch this.

2. REGEDIT: Delete the HKEY_CURRENT_USER->Software-> PartyPoker folder from the registry.

3. REGEDIT: Delete HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE->SOFTWARE-> Calculator

<font color="blue">In a previous thread there was some debate re: deleting the entire calculator folder or just the UCID key within the folder. I accidentally deleted the entire calculator folder [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] - no ill effects thus far. </font>

3. FIREFOX AND IE: Delete all cookies, cache, and history.

4. SEARCH ALL FILES AND FOLDERS FOR "PARTY". Discovered an entry in PreFetch - C(system drive):/windows/prefetch
Deleted this entry

5. SEARCH THE REGISTRY - for any additional keys relating to "PARTY" - no notable hits.

6. REBOOT - double checked -&gt; all deleted files, keys, etc... remained deleted.

7. INSTALLED Empire with a different email address - didn't even try to use the same addy. Just set a mail filter to send all Empire correspondence to my secondary Poker address Inbox for simplicity.

<font color="blue">All other pertinent info remained the same - name, username, street address, Neteller.</font>

8. REINSTALLED PARTY

9. REBOOTED AND TESTED both accounts - NO PROBLEM

Overkill? Maybe. But it worked on the first attempt. Curious to see if posters who had previously been unable to create an account at another skin will have success with this method - or did I luck out? Either way I'm happy to finally have an account with rakeback for when I'm not bonus whoring. I had created accounts at most other major sites prior to having any clue what rakeback was all about. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Hopefully others will find this helpful.

Wyers

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Overkill, yes!

Uninstall whatever party skin you have on computer thru the uninstaller, DL the new software, use different email address, confirm acct, reinstall old skins and you should be good to go.

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Overkill, yes!

Uninstall whatever party skin you have on computer thru the uninstaller, DL the new software, use different email address, confirm acct, reinstall old skins and you should be good to go.

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Plenty of folks have reported that this doesn't work, so the above recommendations are much appreciated.

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The problem is that many were reporting that this method does not work. At the very least the UCID key needed to be deleted from the registry. However Party seems to have put the brakes on that with a possible software upgrade on or about Jan 11th.
I could have attempted to successfully install the Empire software doing the minimum - but based on recent posts it did not seem likely this would work. I guess I figured I would try the install taking into consideration ALL recent discussion hoping to come up with a solution that would work for everyone (including myself [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] )

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accidentally deleted the entire calculator folder - no ill effects thus far.


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Just a note - deleting that 'folder' would never have ill effects. It is not a valid Microsoft registry key. If calc had a registry key it would be in HKLM\software\microsoft\Windows\Currentversion\ or \Windows NT\CurrentVersion\.

Software\calculator is an incorrect spot in the hive,which is what makes it so easy to remember, find, and whack [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

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Gotcha. Thanks for the info - and the piece of mind. I was waiting for this erroneous mouse click to come back and bite me in the ass one day. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Gotcha. Thanks for the info - and the piece of mind. I was waiting for this erroneous mouse click to come back and bite me in the ass one day. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Deleting many different things in the registry could. Luckily that isn't one of them [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

Re: FWIW - Installing Additional Party Skins
 

Thanks for the post..

I tried and I tried to set up another skin account and couldn't do it. I eventually called my Dad and had him set up the skin-account on his computer for me which worked fine.


i didn't know about steps 2 (you have 2 steps 2) and wasn't doing this...just doing the general uninstall via the control panel add/uninstall (step 1).

Didn't even really know how to do steps 4 and 5 but I think I can pull it off/figure it out.

It seems pretty obvious to me from the additional files you had to do and the additional steps you took that party is throwing in some files in different places then they used to...obviously making it a bit harder to install the skin.
But you seem to have solved the puzzle and I've got another skin-account to get to work on.


Thanks a ton for posting this...glad my post inspired you....and glad you set up some rake-back at a skin.

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Hey Bob,

Having your father set up an account for you on a clean computer was probably the easiest way to go. I have a wireless network in my home with a clean computer upstairs in my office, so I could have created the account on that box. Guess I wanted to see if I could be done on a system that held an existing Party account.

I'm still not convinced that I didn't simply get lucky. I know it has been hit and miss for other posters. I'm looking forward to a few others trying this method so we can see if it will work consistently.

Take care...

BTW, too late for me to go in and edit... so 2 step 2s it shall remain [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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On my 2nd computer, I only have Empire installed, and would like to get an account set up at pokernow. Do you know if the steps for removing Empire are the same as Party Poker (just replace the file/folder names with empire instead of party?) or are the registry keys and stuff in a different location?

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After deleting Party and the relevant registry keys I installed Empire. Once Empire was installed I went in to look for the UCID key and it had not returned. Note that I did not rename any folders, I deleted everything.

Try the same steps replacing the relevant "Party" searches with "Empire".
I'm assuming it would be the same going from Empire to Party but I couldn't tell you for sure.

Let us know how it works.

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Couldn't get a second account. Sigh.


Melch

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In a previous thread there was some debate re: deleting the entire calculator folder or just the UCID key within the folder. I accidentally deleted the entire calculator folder - no ill effects thus far.

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I recently did a clean computer signup for Empire. The calculator folder did not even exist before the install. The Empire client created the folder.

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FYI for all the regedit folks, if you are concerned about tampering with the registry, make a copy of what you will delete(export it for the file menu) and save it like a program, you can import it later if your computer needs the missing info.
Also, does anyone know recently if you can change the email address after your account is setup? You used to be able to, but I am afraid to try(i have $ in there) and have party skins over many email addresses.

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Anyone have an idea why I was able to install Empire a few days ago on a system with party on it without doing ANYTHING at all in terms of the registry or even uninstalling party? i was all ready to go through all these steps but figured i'd give it a shot and everything works fine.

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Anyone have an idea why I was able to install Empire a few days ago on a system with party on it without doing ANYTHING

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No idea. It seems to be hit and miss with some people having success relatively easily and others unable to create the account. I went through all the steps above out of curiosity and had success. If I had done nothing at all perhaps I could have created the account just as easily.

I can't understand it yet. Why would there be a difference between one system and another. I'd be curious to know if the people who HAVE been able to set up the subsequent account did not receive the Party software upgrade around Jan 11th.

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For informational purposes:

I was able to sign up at Empire from a computer with Party on it a couple weeks ago with the old registry tricks. No problems.

I think it's obvious that different systems require different solutions now.

A Bell Goes Off - Conflict with XP?
 

A question to the posters who have been able to install a second skin with ease. Are you running a version of Windows prior to XP?

When I did a search of my system PRIOR to installing Empire, I found a Party file in prefetch that I had to delete. The Prefetch folder is used by Windows XP to speed the boot process. Windows XP records information about each program that launches at boot and uses that information to boot faster the next time.

Now that I have both Empire and Party operational I went into the Prefetch folder. Sure enough both Party and Empire have several files placed in this folder (along with a few other poker sites). Again, this folder only exists in Windows XP. Perhaps it was deleting these files that allowed me to complete the 2nd install?

I know there are posters on this forum much more computer savvy than myself. Anyone have any comments on this? It can't simply be a case where the process works differently on individual systems in a random manner. It would be interesting to see what Party installed on our drives when they did their last software upgrade.

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I'm not savvy either, but I have XP.

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I had the same problem after using the redigit code a month or so ago it worked just fine and it wouldnt work now but all i had to do was create a new user in XP and do the account for there with a diff email. Quick and simple!

Re: FWIW - Installing Additional Party Skins
 

What about like, Eurobet and MultiPoker. Do you have to do all this to create new accounts on these sites as well?

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The files in the prefetch folder are automatically created by the OS to optimize disk operations during computer startup. To vastly oversimplify, XP knows you like to use this stuff and reads the disk in advance of need.

That means the Party client is not doing anything special to create these files. But it is certainly possible that it is looking for them. Deleting them before trying a new signup can't possibly hurt.

Actually you don't need anything in the prefetch directory. Some people recommend cleaning it out once in a while to get rid of obsolete or rarely used stuff.

People who post reports on new signups should list the version of Windows they are using like you did. Your OP is a model for how to describe a signup attempt.

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Thanks for the info on this. I've been using relatives computers to add additional accounts (which, BTW, I think is the easiest solution), But I'm starting to run out of those and might need to go this route.

Re: A Bell Goes Off - Conflict with XP?
 

I'm REALLY saavy!!

...just not about computers.

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What I plan on doing when I move to Party and their skins is going around my campus to different computer labs and signing up for each skin in a different lab.

I also recommend the local library for those who are not near a university with system access.

I am fairly savvy about computers, having worked with them since I was 6(I'm 20 now). Yeah, I'm a nerd. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I still remember the first computer my family bought, back somewhere in 1990-1991.

It was a 486, with MS-DOS 5 on it. I have fond memories of playing Wheel Of Fortune on it for hours.

Re: A Bell Goes Off - Conflict with XP?
 

I too did not have any problems signing up with a party skin, as I did so just this past weekend. I uninstalled Party Poker (nothing more), and then downloaded PokerNOW, I have a slightly different username (one letter difference) and a different email address. I also had to use Neteller to deposit money into this account vs. direct link to my bank account with Party.

My question though, do you think this will have any impact on my rake rebate?

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I installed Empire on a clean computer (my brother's). I opened an account but did not deposit funds. Does anyone know, can I deposit funds from my computer or do I have to use my brother's again?

Thanks for any replies!
Todd

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If you have Windows XP can't you just set up a new user account an install it on there? That should work.

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I've been able to register for an additional skin in the past 24 hours without uninstalling anything at all. I simply deleted UCID, downloaded the new skin (with the other skins still on the machine), and signed up. I have Windows 98, suggesting that their new fix might have something to do with newer versions of windows.

Also, I notice that both times I've put new skins on, it pops up an explorer window with a complex url that has "firstinstall" or something like that in it, so that might be a useful tip as well.

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If you have Windows XP can't you just set up a new user account an install it on there? That should work.

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Can anyone give more details about this?

I've tried the method above with no luck, that way always worked for me up untill the 11th.

I tried to make a new XP account and do it that way but it didn't work, which wasn't really surprising since most of my programs were still there.

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so from all my reading on 2+2, i think i'm ready to search for a library that allows access to gambling sites and sign up for more party skins. i know i need to use a different email address and username. last question though- all other info can be the same, right? my real name, real address, etc. and can use the same neteller account right?
thanks

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Yes, real name, real address, and neteller account can all be the same. In fact, i've heard that you should keep the real address the same, or it may cause problems when you try to cash out.

You need to sign up with a different email address, but after you make your first deposit and start playing, I've heard you can change it to be the same email address (if you want). However, as withdrawals go to your neteller account number (not your email like some other sites do) you don't need to change it.

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I have had no luck trying to open a new account with any skins. I have removed all skin accounts, removed the registry keys. Did a search for party and empire in reg.. Removed folders, did a binary search for party and empire and removed all references. My computer has dual hard drive with 98 on one and XP. I did have old Party account on the 98 drive so I disable and reboot. Did cookies which mentioned party. All to no avail!

Could it be I am missing some cookies? I do not want to delete them all because I am member of dozens of forums and not sure I can remember all passwords.

Could it be that they have started comparing names and addresses? Any ideas?

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I have had no luck trying to open a new account with any skins. I have removed all skin accounts, removed the registry keys. Did a search for party and empire in reg.. Removed folders, did a binary search for party and empire and removed all references. My computer has dual hard drive with 98 on one and XP. I did have old Party account on the 98 drive so I disable and reboot. Did cookies which mentioned party. All to no avail!

Could it be I am missing some cookies? I do not want to delete them all because I am member of dozens of forums and not sure I can remember all passwords.

Could it be that they have started comparing names and addresses? Any ideas?

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I couldnt do it either, plan to use a clean computer,

Re: A Bell Goes Off - Conflict with XP?
 

For what it's worth, I've also been able to put on a new skin by just removing the UCID calculator key and rebooting before installing the new skin on an XP system. But worth noting that it's that easy when setting my wife up for new skins on her system, but if I try to setup for the new account on my system, I have to remove the UCID entry, *then* uninstall the skin and remove that skin's registry entries, reboot again, then reinstall the skin to setup the new account.

So just between two XP systems, I've seen a fair amount of difference, but on my wife's system which has only had a steady progression of one-time sign ups as we go through the skins, I've only ever had to delete the calculator UCID entry and reboot prior to installing the new skin. Obviously that's not working for everyone, nor even on both of our home systems, so something else is at work. Perhaps if you've ever had a busted attempt to sign up for a new account it puts some other tag somewhere in the system that you've been denied? Have had no end of trouble when I didn't remove the UCID and reboot first prior to install, but has been smooth when I do. Kooky.

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I used Wyers original formula above to remove Empire, PokerNow and Eurobet from my laptop. I then installed Intertops and signed up for a new account without a problem--same everything except email. I then tried to delete Intertops in the same manner, but upon completion was unable to sign up for a Multipoker account. I deleted all the Multi stuff, and logged on using a different IP address, but the same laptop, and was able to sign up for Multi without a problem (I used the same email that I used for Intertops). Just a heads up that IP address may be one of the new crosschecks Party Skins are using.

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You need to sign up with a different email address

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People say this all the time and I don't know why. I signed up at all 6 skins with the same one and never had any problems.

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You need to sign up with a different email address



People say this all the time and I don't know why. I signed up at all 6 skins with the same one and never had any problems.

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I was wondering about this. Doesn't your e-mail on the poker account have to match the e-mail on your Neteller account when you deposit? I thought maybe people were changing it to match immediately before making the first deposit, but one poster mentioned that it's not necessary to change it at all.

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I was wondering about this. Doesn't your e-mail on the poker account have to match the e-mail on your Neteller account when you deposit? I thought maybe people were changing it to match immediately before making the first deposit, but one poster mentioned that it's not necessary to change it at all.

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Paradise is one site I know that does require you have the same email for there as at yuor Neteller account. I'm pretty sure Party skins don't.

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didn't know about steps 2 (you have 2 steps 2)

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He obviously got a repeat on step two for finishing fifth. :P