Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

I had posted a problem I was having here:

Poker and the better half

and decided to start a journal on how I am going to "win" back my manhood by showing my wife that I am not a degenerate gambler and am in fact a winning poker player.

The setup:

I have $250 to start (I negotiated that up from the original $200 over the weekend).

My bankroll will grow at a rate of $250 + 30% of winnings each month. I am unable to reload, so any losings gone for good.

I can play a maximum 10 hours a week.

I plan on playing the $25NL tables at party, as I have found those incredibly easy to multi-table and come out ahead. If anyone has good reasons to play anything else, I would be glad to hear them.

My goal is at the end of 60 days be able to manage my bankroll as I see fit and get rid of the 70-30 split and start making some real money. I don't have any desire to play more often, so the 10 hour limit is no big deal to me.

I will be giving a report every couple of days detailing me winnings/losings, my wife's overall opinion on my playing (I am ranking this from 1 to 100, with a beginning value of 10), my self-esteem (also from 1-100, but starting at 50), and various interesting hands that I play.

Pre-quest
B/R - $250
Current Limit - PP $25 NL
WO(wife's opinion) - 10
MSE(my self-esteem) - 50

Let the games begin!

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

Isn't $250 a little low for a $25NL bankroll? I would think you'd have a smaller risk of ruin by starting out at .50-1 Limit.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

You have (what should be) an unnacceptably high risk of going broke. You'd need at least 20 buy-ins. If it were my last deposit, I'd want more like 30 or 40.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

I agree, .5/1 is less risky till you have built up some. I think your real problem is your wife treats you like a child rather than a husband though. Sorry to be blunt, but there it is.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

Why isn't your bankroll increasing at 100% of your winnings? Kind of confused about that point.

Good luck retrieving your testicles, of course.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

Check the link in the first post in the thread. All details given there.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

250 is a little low but not terribly low for 25NL. lose 3 buyins and I think you should move to .50/1. you should realize that your risk of ruin is not trivial in either of these situations.

--turnipmonster

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

Yes, that is a problem, and no need to be sorry. My wife is very risk adverse, so the goal here is not so much to win a gazillion dollars (that will be later), but to slowly introduce her to the whole concept of poker.

In her defense, this is the only aspect of our lives in which I get treated like a child, so it could be worse. I could be Doug Christie.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

Thanks for the advice. I believe that is exactly what I will do.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

This is my four step plan to manhood:

1 Dump the wife

2 Get a girlfriend

3 Play poker whenever you feel like it

4 If she complains, get a new girlfriend

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

I think that this might be the first 60 day challenge that has really interested me... Good luck.

ML4L

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

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My bankroll will grow at a rate of $250 + 30% of winnings each month.

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This part is silly.

Be a man - if you have the $200 to start and she thinks your a degenerate then she should have no part in the profits until she acknowledges you're not an idiot.


Re-invest it 100% in your BR - reduces your Risk of Ruin and decreases the time before you can move up and hopefully earn more.

Orange

agreed nm
 

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Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

Yes, it is a horrible deal, but he already agreed to it. So I think as a man he has to stick to his word. She did leave him some outs though - if he can prove himself he might get to renegotiate.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

"This is my four step plan to manhood:

1 Dump the wife

2 Get a girlfriend

3 Play poker whenever you feel like it

4 If she complains, get a new girlfriend"

2 through 4 don't require 1.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

She better be the best lay ever.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

my fiance didn't get it until one day she took a nap for 2 hrs. i ended up winning two SnG's and had a silly run in a real soft ring game. she woke up and i was playing and she said are you gambling agian? i sadi no, i'm playing poker, and i just won $100 while you were asleep. want to go out to dinner tonight? her tune has changed considerably.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

I mean, maybe the guy makes $10/hour playing .50/1. he's going to reinvest $3 of that into his bankroll? that's 316 hours until he has enough for 2/4. that's a lot of opportunity cost right there. IMO he should focus on moving up ASAP.

also, the whole "withdrawing the winnings" seems like a dangerous plan to me. go on a huge rush and win 200BB. withdraw that, and then proceed to run bad for 250BB or so. bam, he's broke and has no bankroll.

it's really not a very good plan.

--turnipmonster

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she woke up and i was playing and she said are you gambling agian? i sadi no, i'm playing poker . . .


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Sweet! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

I think that 25NL is absolutely the best place for you to play with a $250 bankroll. The games are so soft that you can play really tight and wait for premium hands, and usually get paid off. I'd recommend playing tighter than is optimal at first until you get a more comfortable bankroll.

I'm confused, in the previous thread you said you got to keep 30% of all winnings over $200 for a month, but also got to keep all of the first $200. Has this changed?

Justin A

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

Yeah, and it didn't make sense there either.

"You only get this much money and Poker is evil and if you run out of money you have to stop . . . but you have to share your winnings"

Bwah?

Explain to her the whole bankroll/swings thing.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

I don't know what (if any) bonuses you've taken advantage of, but getting a good bonus to start with the initial $250 could give you a substantial increase in your roll with little risk.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

The only thing that changed from my previous post is my starting b/r and how much I skim first from my winnings. I got to increase that.

I always keep the first $250 in winnings.

So....

If in the first month my b/r goes from $250 to $500, I don't withdraw anything at all. Only after I win $250 do I start withdrawing 70%.

Example...

Month 1
Start B/R: $250
Win: $300
Withdraw: $35 ((300-250) * .7)
End B/R: 515

Month 2
Start: $515
Win: $200
Withdraw: 0
End: $715

Month 3
Start: $715
Win: $500
Withdraw: $175 ((500-250) *.7)
End: $1040

Now all I have to do is figure out how to never lose...

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

If you are a winning player and your wife is a reasonable woman, she will come around. Be VERY conservative with your BR (I'd suggest moving to the $/50/1 limit games, but I also suck at NL). Trust is something earned over time, and it will be hard to erase the image of the degenerate gambler from your wife's mind. My wife is quite happy with my poker play now, and sees it as my second job.

-Milo

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

Am I the only one who got pissed off reading this?

Once again showing why marriage is -EV.

[censored] man, your telling me you can't find one thing she waste money one every month? I am sorry but this is complete bullshit. As long as you are not finacially hurting the family and she has an equal opportunity to spend money on things she enjoys than what the [censored] does it matter if you are gambling or not? You need to take the $250 play with it and do whatever the hell you want with the winnings. unfuckingbelievable.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

just to give you a realistic feel for that, I play full time, about 30 hours a week. For this year, 77% of the weeks have been winning weeks, 23% losing weeks. Sounds like hour wise your months are similer to my weeks, so that is about what you can expect if you are solidly beating the game.

Steve

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It is hard to win at poker when you don't have the nuts! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

Glad to hear you worked something out. Good luck!

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

Good Luck to you Justchecking. IMHO, you can not "win back" your manhood by winning some poker. It just does not work that way. But, as I said, good luck to you with your little project.

Dogmeat [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

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"This is my four step plan to manhood:

1 Dump the wife

2 Get a girlfriend

3 Play poker whenever you feel like it

4 If she complains, get a new girlfriend"

2 through 4 don't require 1.

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Yeah, but then he's never going to have time to play poker.

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

your wife is rough, but I can definitely understand her point of view. Gambling does not have a good image and its hard for people who don't know poker to accept that winning is possible. I think your solution is a good one.

good luck

Re: Winning my Manhood back in 60 days -- Intro
 

Before I checked this particular forum, and this post especially, I was actually telling myself that the forum's just weren't the same without having a long term quest/mission/challenge to read on a regular basis (now that gnores ended his).

So, thank you for giving me yet another reason to check this every day.

Good luck with it all. I understand (to a degree) what you are going through. I went through a similiar situation with someone close to me. She thought of poker as gambling and that I was pissing money away or getting lucky when I won.
So, when I brought home about $1000 in winnings (on two seperate occasions) from trips to the casino and repeatedly showed her $100-$300 in winnings without having to dip into my bankaccount, she caught on that maybe there is more to it than just luck and does not hassle me any longer other than to ask how I did.

Good luck mate