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greg nice 08-12-2004 10:45 PM

AA worst hand in poker
 
look at this crap.. dont know what i could have done. i was trying to milk the pot. i didnt put him on KK but it doesnt seem like he would have folded to any reraises i could have done anyway. is this just an unlucky break of poker?


Empire Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 max, 5 handed)

BB ($20.15)
UTG ($22.50)
Hero ($23.62)
Button ($88.85)
SB ($74.98)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, Button folds, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $2.50, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($16) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4, SB calls $4, BB folds.

Turn: ($28) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets $14.5 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $14.50, SB folds.

River: ($57) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $57

Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG shows Kc Kh (straight, king high).
Hero shows Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
Outcome: UTG wins $57. </font>

cornell2005 08-12-2004 10:52 PM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
just bad play

reraise pf

raise the flop

of course, you still lose, but thats nto the point. there are times in poker you lose with the better hand, you just haev to get used to it. but the way you played this is wasting potential profit in other situations

P.S.: be careful about posting hands just bc they are bad beats. the bad beat police will get ya

greg nice 08-12-2004 11:11 PM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
redemption. first hand of tournament. got my chips in preflop this time.


Empire Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed)

SB (t800)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
Hero (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t800)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises to t70</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t800 (All-In)</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t800 (All-In), CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds.

Flop: (t1695) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t1695) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t1695) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1695

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Ac As (one pair, aces).
MP3 shows Kd 7d (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins t1695. </font>

SkippingGoat 08-12-2004 11:14 PM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
Reraise prelop. You'd do well to NEVER "milk" aces. When all 5 cards are out, a one pair hand is pretty poor multiway. Get as much money in preflop as possible. Just calling is an awful play.

jslag 08-12-2004 11:30 PM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
You should definitely re-raise preflop here. A good player might fear that you have AA, but most players at this level cannot and will not lay down KK preflop. He's likely to push all-in preflop, which you love to see. Unfortunately, he hit his 5-outer... but he is a huge dog before the flop so you need to use your edge, not sit back and call bets.

unagi 08-13-2004 02:47 AM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
while you played the first hand way too weak... i might be inclined to say that you played the second one maybe a little overkill? while it's true that if you get a caller, you can definitely say you had him beat when the chips went in.. but, there's a good middle point to find.. between this extremely passive and crazy aggressive dual personality.

rt1 08-13-2004 03:12 AM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
this is retarded.. AA is the worst hand? are you stupid, its going to win 80% of the time. Give me AA and you have have any two cards... we will make a 2:1 bet and play out 5000 hands. We will see what you are saying then.

Theres no way KK is going to fold there... You will lose that hand 1/5 times.... meaing you will win the other 4. shut up and take your beats. dont fill the forum with this garbage. im drunk and i hate you... go die

Atropos 08-13-2004 05:04 AM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
Slowplaying Aces --&gt; You deserve to lose, this never works.

PITTM 08-13-2004 05:20 AM

redemption?
 
so after you played the first time waaaay to weak you play the second time like youre in a hurry to leave the table? what gives?

rj

sonataarctica 08-13-2004 06:31 AM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
while rt1 did jump down your throat and do backflips, thats gonna hurt less that continuing to play AA like that. Re raise that preflop and get your money in with the pre flop NUTS

mistrpug 08-13-2004 10:06 AM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
AA is actually a pretty bad when you play it this poorly.

That said, even if you played this hand well you would have lost all your money.

schwza 08-13-2004 10:10 AM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
yeah, and don't make a min reraise with your first raise. it's something that you'll never see a good player do with any cards in any position. keep posting though... it'll help, i promise.

Wayfare 08-13-2004 10:49 AM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
AA is amazing if you can get all in on the flop. This is a bad beat story and is not indicative of how good / bad a hand is. If you had raised again preflop like you should, then you would have gotten all in with a 82% chance to win. This time, you got in ahead but lost anyway. That will happen in poker, and it's what keeps the bad players coming back thinking they can win.

TomCollins 08-13-2004 11:01 AM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
WTF are you thinking? Your opponent is braindead or you misclicked, this is almost as bad as your first hand.

Count your blessings, learn to take the beats, and poker will be a lot less painful for you than its going to be.

TakeMeToTheRiver 08-13-2004 11:03 AM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
[ QUOTE ]
Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, Button folds, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $2.50, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($16) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4, SB calls $4, BB folds.


[/ QUOTE ]

once UTG min-raised pre-flop you had to bet much bigger. The min-raise says AA, KK, AK -- so he is probably going to hang around regardless of your raise. You don't necessarily want multiple callers. I would have made it $5 to go. (aside: UTG's min-raise also sucked -- once he did it, you re-raised, and he re-re-raised, you should have made it even bigger.)

On the flop, you must raise here -- I would have over bet the pot -- a significant chunk (50%?) of UTG's stack.

JrJordan 08-13-2004 12:18 PM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
BAD BEAT ALERT! BAD BEAT ALERT!

Sorry to break it to you, but you played this hand pretty bad. The villain makes a minraise preflop, and you... minreraise? I'm sorry, I thought we were playing no limit. Raise his ass to at least $3.5. If he reraises you again (like he did in this hand), then come over the top. DO NOT SLOWPLAY AA AGAINST A PREFLOP RAISER. You want to get as much money as possible in preflop when you have the nuts. You'd probably still lose this hand, but at least you got the money in with the best of it.

Flop: Rainbow flop, you're probably still ahead. UTG makes a weak bet, only 1/4 of the pot. RAISE!!! He will call you. You cannot slowplay a single pair in NL, even if it is AA.

Turn: It's an easy call, but I'm convinced that the only way you'd get your money in this hand is if he bet it all for you. It's just being too weak tight. I'm guessing your new to NL and perhaps this is a big jump bankroll wise. Your actions just seem to say you're playing with scared money, so you may need to think about dropping to a lower limit.

River: Obviously a bad beat, but believe me, every single one of us on this board have had much worse than you. MUCH WORSE. Bad beat stories just don't get sympathy around here. I'm happy to help critique hands, just remember your emphasis should be on making the right plays at the right times, not whether you won or lost the hand.

TheSheath 08-13-2004 01:21 PM

Re: AA worst hand in poker
 
with pocket aces or king u will a) lose a big pot or b) win a small one. in that case tho u were unlucky and should have gotten more aggressive raising and try to steal the pot if u think possible.

greg nice 08-13-2004 04:32 PM

Re: youre right.
 
JrJordan i think you hit the nail on the head. i was playing with scared money. im fairly new at no limit and have been mostly playing 5+1 and 10+1 SNGs where im slightly up. here i didnt have time to play a full tourney so decided to play some cash hands. pushing in real dollars is different than pushing in chips.

thanks for pointing it out.


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