Do you verbalize your actions at the table?
 

I verbalize every action (check, bet, call, raise) I make at a live table. I'm wondering if this is proper etiquette or just plain unnecessary and annoying to other players?

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I usually verbalize everything, but not in an annoying, look-at-me kind of way. Whenever I'm going to raise, I always say "raise", just in case I missed a kill/half-kill pot....

also, i always cut my chips into neat piles instead of hurling them out in front of me as seems to be the style in chicago, especially with a lot of newer dealers who have enough issues just reading the board much less keeping track of the action/bets.

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You don't need to verbalize everything (although it's usually smart to announce a raise), but it is definitely not poor etiquette. If that's what you like or are comfortable doing, keep doing it.

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I say "raise" or "call" 100% of the time.
I say "fold" 0% of the time.

Rick Diesel

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i'll verbalize "bet" and "raise", just to avoid any confusion.

checking and folding i usually just do nonverbally.

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I say absolutely nothing during a hand.

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I always say "Raise", just in case I accidentally make a string bet which is sometimes frowned upon.

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Too bad your avatar doesn't have sound [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

Lost Wages

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Learn the raising rules in your room. Does more than half the amount required to raise constitute a raise or must you put the ENTIRE (every chip) amount out in one motion? At the Borgata in AC and in Vegas, half or more is the rule so there's no point to say raise. At the Taj Mahal, you must get EVERY chip out (like at 20-40 if you raise the turn and accidentally only put out 75, you must call). Here, verbalizing is more prudent. Usually though, I just keep some greens around or just make the raise very carefully. You may be surprised what the tone of your voice can give away.

Jeff

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Best... avatar... ever!

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The only think I verbalize is "check." Otherwise, I let my chips talk.

If I'm in a particularly annoying mood, I might say "chicken" instead of "check," but I thump the table to eliminate any ambiguity.

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that's weird, i verbalize raises only. i think a call is self explanatory, as is tapping the table for a check.

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I usually only verbalize raises when I want it to be crystal clear, or I think there might be a problem or confusion. otherwise, I don't usually say anything during a hand.

I think it would be fun to push all-in every time I raise in a limit game. overkill, but it would be fun to try sometime.

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that's weird, i verbalize raises only. i think a call is self explanatory, as is tapping the table for a check.

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I do the exact same thing.

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In tourneys where i play, you have to verbalize a raise. It's tough for me to do that as i hate to verbalize anything about my intention. I thought about just bringing a little card that says 'RAISE!' on it and holding it up when i want to raise. Not to mention my voice sucks and doesn't carry in a noisy cardroom worth a sh*t. So i have to really exaggerate my volume and clarity when doing this. Even to a dealer sitting right across from me. Pisses me off. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Sometimes you can pick up audible 'tells' to let you know how strong/weak a hand a player has. Not always, but it is another possible information leak. Combined with bet speed...

This is also much more prominent with newer and casual players.

b

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I'm less likely to do it in a limit game, but when I play NL live I always make sure I verbalize bets and raises, including the amount. I find this much easier than relying on my hand to get the number of chips correct. I never verbalize checks or calls.

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I'll say:

Bet-5% of the time (it should be understood, there is no money out there yet I am putting some out =bet)

Raise-99% If you come up a chip short in AC it only counts as a call. If you say raise while putting out the initial chips though you can go back and add from your stack..... announcing raise is mandatory.

call-50% depends what mood I am in, plus if I am fumbling with chips I'll say it to let the next guy know he can act

Fold-2% of the time just for kicks

check raise-.33% Id say about every 300 hands Ill announce my planned check raise, half of those times Ill do it.... gotta keep people on their toes [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I usually do also to avoid confusion and help make it clear to the dealers.

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"Raise-99% If you come up a chip short in AC it only counts as a call. If you say raise while putting out the initial chips though you can go back and add from your stack..... announcing raise is mandatory."

This is true at the Taj, but not at the Borgata. In a 20-40 at the B, if you raise the turn the raise is valid if you put 60 or more out at once (at least half of the extra amt. required to raise). If you are playing at Taj, buy a rack and a stack of green. You will never have to announce raise again.

Jeff

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I always verbalize raise, and then decide how much I'm going to raise. there is nothing worse than not grabbing enough chips.

--turnipmonster

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same here

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a couple of weeks ago at the Trop in AC, on 3 occasions my raises were disallowed for not verbalizing my intention...what a pain in the ass!

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I announce raise, and say check along with the table tap, but not call.

I was chastised by a dealer at the Taj for verbalizing a call. He claimed it was confusing.

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in a structure game, its so annoying to hear people say "20" or "i bet 20" when betting when thats all they can bet. its almost as annoying hearing people say "call"

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I knew the rule at the Borgata was different, wasnt sure the exact rule though

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If you are playing at Taj, buy a rack and a stack of green

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Funny this past weekend I was playing with this young guy who had two stacks that were mixed red and green. I couldnt figure out why..... till he raised. The entire stack was in the order of 3reds-1 green, 3reds-1 green, 3reds-1 green, pretty good idea as each 4 chip segment was a BB, so 8 chips was a 2 bet etc. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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in a structure game, its so annoying to hear people say "20" or "i bet 20" when betting when thats all they can bet. its almost as annoying hearing people say "call

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Last weekend at 20-40 one player goes to bet the flop and says, "Ill make it $100" [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]. Sure enough the bet was disallowed, sure enough he ended up dropping like $600 before getting called to a super satellite for Sept. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]