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If it is normal, it probably gets covered twice a week. In which case I apologize.

I made my first trip to a B&M last night. I played for 2 1/2 hrs. It was a 9 player table and on 4 occasions only 5 people saw the flop. It was typically 6-7 people. I saw 11 flops and 7 of those were in big blind, so it was really 6-7 people seeing the flop at what was usually an 8 handed table.

The big winner was the guy on my right, he saw EVERY flop the entire time I was there. I raise UTG with QQ and four people cold call + the big blind makes it six to the flop, UTG + 1 wins the hand with A's full of 5's after cold calling with A5o. As near as I could tell, he was the 2nd tightest player at the table, he probably only saw 50% of the flops.

I'm not complaning, just curious if this is normal.

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Yes.

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Nothing like being in the BB with AA and having the whole table limp. Ah the joys of no fold'em hold'em.

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I had a five-way cap preflop with AA this morning at Foxwoods $4/$8. (I was UTG+2, UTG raised, I reraised, one of the blinds capped.) Unfortunately the preflop capper hit running fours on the turn and river to beat me with 54s (EDIT: now that i think of it, he may have flopped bottom pair with his damn four), but no one wants to hear my bad beat story.

But yeah.... the difference in live low-limit poker and online low-limit poker is, in B&M more people are there just to have a good time and literally don't care how bad they're playing. More power to them.

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amazing

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I wish it were more normal.

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From my limited B&M experience this is typical. Alot of live players just don't have any idea of correct play, and with the slower pace it requires more patience to play reasonably tight. Add alcohol to this mix and you can see how these 8-to -the-flop type games develop. Too bad you can't multitable live. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Yes it's normal.

I had Ace's hold up 8 ways, unimproved, capped preflop and the flop.

Ahhh... I love it.

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where, and what were you playing? low limit($2/4 or $3/6) it sounds like.

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Doesn't have to be super low limit to see behavior like this. I've seen plenty of 10-20 and even some 20-40 games in which 5 to 8 players take the flop typically. Gotta love it.

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My best is AK holding up unimproved VS 8 to the SD.

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50% and tight should not be in the same sentence in regards to poker. 8)

You had a major magoo fest table if 9 handed and 2/3 see every flop, all you do is tighten up and play straight forward, they obviously are too magoo'd to be paying much attention.
Be prepared for a ton of suckouts, but if you get trips or better, only your raise button should be showing... THUMP THUMP THUMP!

>TW<

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3/6 Gila River Casino in Phoenix

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50% and tight should not be in the same sentence in regards to poker. 8)

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LOL....nobody with a brain called him tight.

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I had a five-way cap preflop with AA this morning at Foxwoods $4/$8. (I was UTG+2, UTG raised, I reraised, one of the blinds capped.) Unfortunately the preflop capper hit running fours on the turn and river to beat me with 54s (EDIT: now that i think of it, he may have flopped bottom pair with his damn four), but no one wants to hear my bad beat story.

But yeah.... the difference in live low-limit poker and online low-limit poker is, in B&M more people are there just to have a good time and literally don't care how bad they're playing. More power to them.

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I had Aces capped 5-way preflop twice in the last month. I won the first time but only because I made a flush, the second time I lost to 6s3s (straight).

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Yes, it's very normal.

I flopped a nut flush draw on the button today and I had so many people in the pot that I was able to raise for value. Even if I only had 1 card to come that raise alone would have shown a positive EV. There must have been a lot of people in that pot with close to 0% equity. Unfortunately I busted that draw, but it was an incredibly juicy game.

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Yeah when I first started playing in casinos I just could not understand how people can be playing every hand. I would raise UTG and get called with Q4o by UTG+1, and that's only the beginning. It took me a while to realize that these people aren't really doing anything wrong. The baad players are just there to have fun and try their luck at poker, just like they could at blackjack. To them, it's an oveall losing game with the possibility of luck in the short run...that's why they chase longshots, hoping to get lucky, but if they lose, it's no big deal to them, becuase they were just there to have fun. But after recently playing at a couple of tight tables, I realized how benefitial these morons are to the game. I hope they never go away.

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Nothing like being in the BB with AA and having the whole table limp. Ah the joys of no fold'em hold'em.

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I had that yesterday playing $3/6 and it help up. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]